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Title: Could someone please help me identify this crest on a piece of silver
Post by: Flainey1 on Saturday 11 July 15 03:32 BST (UK)
Hi all

My first post and hoping that someone out there can help me.

The date of the silver piece is 1835, so I hope this can help.

From the basics I have done and I am probably completely wrong, I believe it could be a Duke due to the crown and it looks a lot like part of the Duke of Somerset crest.  All help is very welcome and please put me on the straight and narrow.

THANK-YOU for any help you provide.

Mark
Title: Re: Could someone please help me identify this crest on a piece of silver
Post by: davidft on Sunday 12 July 15 20:18 BST (UK)
Could be something to do with the Dukes of Buckingham - this is a very old crest of theirs

http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/buckingham1444.htm

which is very similar to yours

However if you think the bird is a duck it could be for Aylesbury Vale District Council

http://www.civicheraldry.co.uk/thames_valley_chilterns.html
Title: Re: Could someone please help me identify this crest on a piece of silver
Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 12 July 15 21:16 BST (UK)
The bird on the helmet looks like a peacock-- the little crest of feathers on its head.

Could you look at a copy of Burke`s Peerage in a library or perhaps it is online.

It could be a phoenix as it seems to be rising from flames.
Best of luck.   Viktoria.
Title: Re: Could someone please help me identify this crest on a piece of silver
Post by: deebel on Sunday 12 July 15 21:57 BST (UK)
Have you deciphered the hallmark? Is there a makers mark? Which town? If it was a good maker the firm may a) still be in existence or b) have been amalgamated into another firm.

What is the piece? Is it part of a set or an individual piece?

There are a number of member firms in the London Silver Vaults

http://silvervaultslondon.com/

The Goldsmiths Company may also be able to give advice

http://www.thegoldsmiths.co.uk/


Title: Re: Could someone please help me identify this crest on a piece of silver
Post by: kilkennylass on Sunday 12 July 15 21:59 BST (UK)
closed armour helmet, with crown/coronet and bird is often found in Hugenot/French coat of arms ... Daniel Perrin for example had a symbol very similar, so French might be an avenue worth exploring (especially if no assay marks are discernible)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Perrin.

Good luck :)