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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: napierite on Sunday 12 July 15 03:10 BST (UK)
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John Middleton's wife Alice Hilda Middleton nee Durrant (my 2xgreatUncle's daughter) was murdered my Cecil Maltby in 1922 (official record has 1923 when her body was found). Finding a great deal of information on this I wanted to fellow John's progress after her murder. He died in 1943 and buried Southend-on-sea (Sutton Road). He had a career in the Merchant Navy and married a Gertrude Kathe. I can't find when/where they married not helped by not knowing Gertrude's maiden name. Any possible matches end as they all have my John Middleton with a middle named which this John did not have.
Any fellow ups would be appreciated.
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There is a marriage of a John MIDDLETON no middle name to a Gertrude CUSWORTH in Bakewell June Qtr 1929
7b 1864
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I wonder if this is Gertrude's death,same area as John's.
Gertrude Kate Middleton
DOB 28 Nov 1898 died Jun 1975
Age 76 District: Southend on Sea,Essex
Volume 9 Page 2644
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There is a marriage of a John MIDDLETON no middle name to a Gertrude CUSWORTH in Bakewell June Qtr 1929
7b 1864
Actually that John appears to marry a Beatrice Wilson
Marriages Jun 1929
Cusworth Gertrude Middleton Bakewell 7b 1864
Middleton John Wilson Bakewell 7b 1864
Middleton Stanley Cusworth Bakewell 7b 1864
Wilson Beatrice Middleton Bakewell 7b 1864
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Just in case anyone else can spot something, I can't - I've been trying to find John on ships, and possibly the 2nd wife on the same ship along with him. It's possible - one newspaper report mentioned John had last seen Alice Hilda in July 1922 when she left the ship (that he was on as Chief Officer, the SS Maresfield) at Cornwall and returned to London.
Crew list 1920, show John MIDDLETON, age 48, 1st Officer of the "SS Maresfield" , so born abt 1872.
Cheers
AMBLY
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I wonder if this is Gertrude's death,same area as John's.
Gertrude Kate Middleton
DOB 28 Nov 1898 died Jun 1975
Age 76 District: Southend on Sea,Essex
Volume 9 Page 2644
If the above is the correct death, the death certificate should give Gertrude's maiden name, and her place of birth (if known to the informant). That might help you find the marriage.
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I thought Gertrude's middle name might be a typo, but as it is Kathe in the entry for John Middleton's will in the Probate Calendar, and also in the entry for the administration of her own estate in 1975 (the death that Carol found matches the probate entry), it must be correct. A German name?
There is no marriage in the British overseas marriages index of a John Middleton and Gertrude.
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Her middle name is also spelt Kathe when she is named as widow in his CWGC record. I agree she may have been from a German speaking country.
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Thank you for the replies. First I too was confused with that marriage needing to take a second look (blast not them:too easy) and yes that is Gertrude's death in 1975. That new probate website is a god's send to gather more information and also to confirm many things specially from sitting way down here in NZ.
Had a play with the German... possibility within UK census using her birth date and then marriages but nothing found. No sign of John and Gertrude till the known deaths oh well.
If she was from Europe and/or they married out of the UK, there is probable little chance of solving this one. However I have enjoyed (though sad) story of cousin Alice Hilda from Horsham. :)
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If she was from Europe and/or they married out of the UK, there is probable little chance of solving this one.
I'm not sure why you should think this? There are plenty of records available in countries outside the UK! Finding out her maiden name and place of birth from her death certificate would be a good start - depending on your level of interest, of course. See reply #5. :)
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Hi Bookbbox
Perhaps I should have said my link to John second wife is not sufficient for me to order a death certificate on the off chance her maiden name is mentioned, unlike the New Zealand ones that have the decease's Parents names (if known) and place of burial.
My interest was seeing how long after Alice's death did John remarry. I am pleased for John that he did.
I may come back to the couple at a later date. This research line that started with me wanting to update the 12 children and their families of my 3xgreatgrand parents Thomas Parker Durrant & Elizabeth Cornwell has taken me from Sussex to Texas to Kenya and back enjoying every moment.
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I find this so interesting! My Great Grand-Mother Louise was Alice's sister. I have always wanted to go to Frog Hole Farm in Sussex, as I have heard this is where the Durrants lived, maybe on my next trip! Would be interested to connect!