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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Denbighshire => Wales => Denbighshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: ladymerle1 on Saturday 18 July 15 14:24 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find details of John Davies married Emily Jones 1895 Wrexham civil marriage.
They lived at 10 The Maes, GlynCeiriog. Does anyone have any birth, death dates or family names please?
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Hi can only locate one John/Emily in Wrexham in 1901, but not at the address you give , when do you have them living there?
1901 Census
John Davies 27 b Rhosymedre
Emily 29 b Derbyshire
Residing at 37 Rock Road, Rhosymedre
Census ref RG13/5218/130/29
Keyboard86
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I see no marriage for this couple in the Wrexham area, where did you get the info from?
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Hi
On the North Wales BMD, I see that the 1895 marriage lists a Jane Emily Jones or a Caroline Upton as possible spouses for John Davies (WM/044.47). Are you sure that John married Jane Emily?
Gadget
Added - sorry, a bit late - I'm just going through the Denbighsire board for what I've missed in the last 12 months or so ;D
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Hi
On the North Wales BMD, I see that the 1895 marriage lists a Jane Emily Jones or a Caroline Upton as possible spouses for John Davies (WM/044.47). Are you sure that John married Jane Emily?
Gadget
Added - sorry, a bit late - I'm just going through the Denbighsire board for what I've missed in the last 12 months or so ;D
Yes she definitely married John Davies. Thanks for your reply
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Hi again, possibly should had asked you earlier, how do you know they lived at 10, The Maes, Glyncorrwg?
Keyboard86
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Hi again, possibly should had asked you earlier, how do you know they lived at 10, The Maes, Glyn Ceiriog?
Keyboard86
Oops pressed wrong button!
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Hi again, possibly should had asked you earlier, how do you know they lived at 10, The Maes, Glyncorrwg?
Keyboard86
I am in touch with their granddaughter who also lives in Glyn Ceiriog!
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Hi so are we looking for a Jane Emily Jones or Emily Jones?
So there was at least one child born?
Keyboard86
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Did the granddaughter know if they lived in Glyn all their married life?
Gadget
Added If they did, then it's unlikely that they'd come under Wrexham RD for other than their marriage - Censuses would likely be either in the Oswestry or Corwen (Llangollen) Districts.
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Hi again
I've been looking at Y Maes, Glyn Ceiriog on Street View and the houses don't look as if they were built in the 19th century - more like 1930s-50s council houses (lots like them 6 miles away, where I grew up). This means that if you have the correct marriage, they would have lived at a different address in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.
Have you looked for them on the 1939 Register?
Gadget
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Thank you for all your advice on this....I will talk to her when I next see her
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Did the granddaughter know if they lived in Glyn all their married life?
Gadget
Added If they did, then it's unlikely that they'd come under Wrexham RD for other than their marriage - Censuses would likely be either in the Oswestry or Corwen (Llangollen) Districts.
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Are you certain he was John and not Joseph ?
1895
MARRIAGES. DAVIES-UPTON- October 9th, at the Congregational Church, Ruabon, by the Rev. T. Thomas. Baptist minister, Cefn (Mr J. Denbigh Jones, registrar), John Davies, 8, King-street, Cefn, to Caroline Upton, Newbridge, Ruabon.
1895
MARRIAGES. DAVIES- JONES -October 17th, at the Congregational Church, Cefn, by the Rev. E. M. Edmunds, Ruabon, (Mr J. Denbigh Jones, registrar), Joseph Davies to Jane Emily Jones, both of Plaskynaston Hall, Cefn
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Glad you found those, Wilcoxin :) I was wondering about it and asked a similar question earllier:
On the North Wales BMD, I see that the 1895 marriage lists a Jane Emily Jones or a Caroline Upton as possible spouses for John Davies (WM/044.47). Are you sure that John married Jane Emily?
So that John married Caroline :-\
(ps - and no mention of Glyn)
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Just found that at least 'some' houses were built in Y Maes in 1906:
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMG70R_1906_Private_House_Y_Maes_Glyn_Ceiriog_Llangollen_Wrexham_Wales_UK
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I am bored , so had a look at Jane Emily Jones / Davies.
No idea if it`s the right one, we need more details from ladymerle.
Possible ?
1851 Bwlch Llantysilio Denbighshire
John Jones widower 36 slate labourer b Fynechard, ??? Denbighshire
Thomas Jones 12 Llantysilio, Denbighshire
1860 Dec qtr
Mary Ann Share married Thomas Jones . Ruabon, St Mary
Parts of Ruabon are missing in 1861
Births Dec 1863 Jane Emily Jones Wrexham 11b 319
1871 Crane Street Cefn
Thomas Jones 32 blacksmith and shop b Llangollen
Mary Ann Jones 29 b Chirk
Martha Elizabeth Jones 9
Jane Emily Jones 7
Anne Shan (Share) Jones 3
Mary Ada Jones 5 Months
George R Share brother in law unm 34 nail manufacturer b Oswestry
Ann Share sister in law unm 22 b Chirk
1881 9 Crane St Cefn Ruabon
Thomas Jones 43 blacksmith and butcher b Glynceiriog Denbigh
Mary A. Jones 39 b Chirk
Martha E. Jones 19
Jane E. Jones 17
Mary A. Jones 10
John T. Jones 7
Helen A. Jones 3
1891 Plaskynaston Hall.
Thomas Jones 53 farmer and butcher b Llanarmon Denbigh
Mary Ann Jones 49 wife b Chirk
Martha Elizabeth Jones 29 b Ruabon
Jane Emily Jones 27 “
Mary Ada Jones 20 “
John Thomas Jones 17 “
Ellen Alice Jones 13 “
Jane Share 50 S in law (sister) b Ruabon
Wrexham Advertiser 22nd December 1900
Death of Mary Ann Jones, Plaskynaston Mrs Joseph Davies is her daughter. Joseph Davies is son in law.
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4594631/4594639/97/
1881 Crane Street . Walter , Lloyd and Joseph Davies 16
1901 Crane St Cefn
Jonathan Jones 34 head
Walter Davies 25 b Cefn
Lloyd Davies 23 b Cefn
Later both Walter and Lloyd are with Joseph Davies 45 and Jane Emily Davies 46 at the same place .
Either this is the right family ..... or not
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I think we need more info when Ladymerle speaks to their grnddaughter. The 1895 marriage might not be correct - have you got the n-c records for Oswestry and Llangollen?
They were supposed to have lived Y Maes (no number), Glyn for most of their married life :-\
My local n-c records are on an old backup disk - my PC died last summer and I didn't bother to put them up on my new machine so anything you can find........