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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: Scottleneveu on Tuesday 21 July 15 19:10 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
I have been doing my family research for some time now but I am still pretty new to it all :)
Basically I'm just looking for anyone related to the Haggart families of Scotland in particular the Haggarts of Fife, but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who is a Haggart or is related to one as you never know where or how you might find a link and I'm at somewhat of a dead end with my searches at the moment.
Also anybody with any information on the Haggart name itself would be greatly welcomed. I'm interested in the origins of the name as I've heard many different stories as to where it's from, I.E. It's a variant of Mctaggart and a variant of Haggarty but if anyone has any evidence of anything I'd love to hear from you!
All the best and happy searching,
Scott
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My sister in law's mother is a Haggart and I've done some limited research on them.
Her family was in Cupar around mid / late 19th C. Previously they were from Abernethy in Perthshire. Other areas the family resided in were Redgorton / Luncarty and surrounding area.
As you don't mention dates or any specific names I'm unable to draw any comparisons.
I have no info re the origin of the name but as with most surnames there are variations that I've come across.
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Hello and thank you for contacting me!
Well my grandfather was David Haggart and he was born in Cowdenbeath I believe in 1922. His father was David Nicol Bruce Haggart and he was born in 1895 in Laurencekirk. I also have a couple of generations in Markinch.
I believe that a lot of the family moved to Brechin and perhaps there's some of them still there now, but I don't know.
I hope to hear from you again,
Scott
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Hi,
I've come across that line previously but never found a connection to my in-laws family.
I have a few notes on them:
David NB Haggart 1895 Laurencekirk
Robert Haggart b6 Sep 1872 m Annie Bruce
Robert Inglis Haggart bc1840 - d29 May 1900 - m1862 Kinross, Margaret Nicoll
The death record for Robert showed parents as David Haggart / Janet Crockett.
The marriage record showed parents as David Haggart / Mary Crocket
I never located birth for Robert
There was a marriage in Alyth in 1825 between a David Haggard and Mary Crockat
I found no marriage to a Janet
Other children to David / Mary (from Family Search / LDS).... David 1826, Mary 1828, Jean 1831, William 1835, James 1837.
David and Mary would appear to be correct names as this is backed up by the names in the 1841 and 1851 census records in Markinch:
1841
David Haggart 41
Mary Haggart 35
David Haggart 14
Mary Haggart 12
Jean Haggart 10
Willm B Haggart 5
John Haggart 3
James Haggart 3
Robert I Haggart 1
1851
David Haggart 50
Mary Haggart 48
David Haggart 24
Mary Haggart 22
Jane Haggart 20
John Haggart 13
James Haggart 13
Robert Haggart 11
My notes are sketchy after that and I seem to have abandoned the search, having decided that there was no connection at that time to my in-laws. There could of course be a more distant connection.
Variations I've come across have been Hag(g)art, Hag(g)ard, Heggart(y), Hoggart(y), Hog(g)arth and a few other obscure spellings.
That's all I have but I hope it helps.
For reference, my in-laws line is:
Mother in law (living)
David Walker Haggart b1872 d1955 m(1) Eliz Bowie m(2) Agnes Wardrop Hamilton
Andrew Haggart b1839 Abernethy m Helen Milly
William Haggart b1793 Abernethy m Mary Walker
John Haggart bc1770 m Margaret White
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Hello again and sorry for my delayed reply :)
Thank you for the information that you have provided me with it has been very helpful.
I will keep an out out with the names that you gave regarding your family, chances are that I'll come across them at some point ( there doesn't seem to be that many Haggarts out there, unless I'm just being blind? ).
All the best,
Scott
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Hello from Canada!
I am a Haggart, I too am looking to trace the family history. James Haggart
b. 15 Sep 1773 married Janet (Jennet) McLeod b. 28 Jan 1778. Their son, John Haggart b. 22 Jan 1802 p. Glengarry, Ontario, Canada, is my 3 times great grandfather. This is all the info. I have, there are a few Haggart's here in Canada
Cheers!
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The Haggarts seem to of been in Scotland for centuries, in my opinion it just has to be a corruption of the Irish Haggarty. I went to school with a girl from Dublin and her surname was Haggarty, another Irish friend of mine said that apparently there is an old Irish name of ó hágairt which sometimes gets anglicised to Haggart or Heggert. I don't know if this is true or not though, it certainly seems plausible...
Molly
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The deaths register of my home parish of Kilrenny in Fife has an entry in 1838 - "Robert Haggart Mason, aged 36 years, died of consumption at Cellardyke, being only a few weeks in the parish ..."
Cellardyke is my native village and the main centre of population in Kilrenny. Despite the wording of that entry, the OPR shows that Robert Haggart married Alice Redpath in the parish in 1831. They had several children there, and others in Newcastle, a Redpath researcher tells me. As a journeyman mason Robert Haggart would have travelled around looking for work.
If he was 36 in 1838, he looks like the Robert born in 1802 at Perth to John Haggart and Ann Morrison.
Being a mason, he might have been related to James Haggart, stone mason, who was married to Catherine Duncan. I know their names from the death-certificate of their daughter Agnes Haggart who was married to David Spence, vintner at Kingsbarns in Fife. She died in 1874 aged 76. The census of 1871 gives her birthplace as Strathkinness in Fife.
Harry
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Hi Harry (hdw), you say "Being a mason, he might have been related to James Haggart, stone mason, who was married to Catherine Duncan. I know their names from the death-certificate of their daughter Agnes Haggart who was married to David Spence, vintner at Kingsbarns in Fife. She died in 1874 aged 76. The census of 1871 gives her birthplace as Strathkinness in Fife."
This Spence-Haggart couple and their decendants are in my current research, so anyone related do please get in touch. Their grandson John Daniel Spence is a notable figure in our family - a builder in St. Andrews.
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According to G F Black's The Surnames of Scotland, Haggart is a corruption of MacTaggart, and was not uncommon in Perthshire in the late 16th and 17th centuries.
MacTaggart is from Gaelic Mac-an-t-sagairt, meaning 'son of the priest'. The earliest documentary reference cited is from 1215.
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My mother-in-laws mother, (grandmother-in-law?) was Isabella Wallace Hagart (6May 1898 to 16 Nov 1955). She seems to have lived her life in and around Edinburgh.
Her father was William Wallace Hagart, but I don't have any further information on him. As my son is not interested I have not pursued this any further.
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Hi Harry (hdw), you say "Being a mason, he might have been related to James Haggart, stone mason, who was married to Catherine Duncan. I know their names from the death-certificate of their daughter Agnes Haggart who was married to David Spence, vintner at Kingsbarns in Fife. She died in 1874 aged 76. The census of 1871 gives her birthplace as Strathkinness in Fife."
This Spence-Haggart couple and their decendants are in my current research, so anyone related do please get in touch. Their grandson John Daniel Spence is a notable figure in our family - a builder in St. Andrews.
When I've researched a branch of my family-tree I often write a little article which I keep on the computer for future reference. A few years ago I wrote something about my Spence of Kingsbarns researches. This extract may be of interest -
"David W. Lyle’s “Shadows of St. Andrews Past” (John Donald, 1989) has a photo on page 81 of Jock SPENCE’s steam traction engine in 1909 pulling part of the former Catholic church that stood on the Scores to James Street, where it was to become La Scala, St. Andrews’ first permanent cinema. On page 82 Jock and his workers can be seen taking a break from erecting the cinema.
The 1901 census of St. Andrews shows only one John SPENCE, living at 7 Melbourne Place with his widowed mother Jessie. John is 26, single, a mason, and an employer, born in Kingsbarns. He was in fact born there in 1875 to James SPENCE, mariner, and Jessie Stuart, who was from Spittalfield in Perthshire.
In the 1881 census James and Jessie SPENCE are living in Cottage Row, Kingsbarns with their six children, including John, 6. James is 50, and is obviously the James aged 11 in the 1841 census, living in Cottage Row with his parents David SPENCE and Agnes Haggart (see above).
David SPENCE was born in 1790 to Alexander SPENCE and Magdalene Davidson, Alexander being a brother of my 5 x great-grandfather George SPENCE (Ramsay). So Jock SPENCE the mason and steam traction engine owner would have been a 3rd cousin of my 2 x great-grandfather James Peebles and his brother Robert, who emigrated to Tasmania together."
Harry
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Hi Scott,
My mother''s maiden name was Christina Haggart daughter of Robert and Margeret Haggart, born in Kirkfieldbank, Lanarkshire, Scotland on the 4th December 1901. She lived her early years in New Lanark and then moved with her parents and some siblings to Kettering, Northants, England where I was born in 1944.
Her father was born Robert Hegarty in the Glenravel district in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. His father before him was also Robert Hegarty.
I hope this is of interest.
Regards,
Bruce Carey
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Hi, I also found Haggarts from Markinch, Fifein my family tree if its any help. Starts with James Haggart and Isabella Mackie, they have James Haggart b: 1785 Markinch Fife. James marries Isabella Mitchell marriage date not found yet but they have Janet Haggart b: c1826 at Markinch. Janet marries Thomas Dobbie Wood b: 1826 The Gorbals, Glasgow they marry 31 July 1848 at East Parish, Greenock, Renfrew. Scotland. After living in Stirling, and losing 2 of their sons they decide to emigrate to Australia, I have the boat they arrived on and their children as their daughter Isabella is my Gt Grandmother, happy to forward any further information.
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I seem to have forgotten about this when we were discussing Haggart before, but a career criminal called David Haggart was hanged for murder in Edinburgh in 1821 and his body handed over for dissection. I wrote an article about him once for the Scots Magazine. Forgot all about that till now. If you Google "David Haggart hanged" you will get lots of links.
Harry
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Hi All, not often go through Roots general questions, but have come across this interesting one on Haggart name. It is in my paternal family list from 1700 in Kenmore, Perthshire, a Donald Haggart and down via descendants to my 4th Gt Grandmother Helen Haggart. Though Helen has 4 siblings and several uncles/aunts I have not done much research on them apart from birth dates and again in Kenmore, Perthshire area. Interestingly re the origin, though some other researchers have got my original Donald and his wife's name, one has posted a marriage date, same as mine but the surname seems to show as McInhaggart!!
Regards to all
Bill
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Interestingly re the origin, though some other researchers have got my original Donald and his wife's name, one has posted a marriage date, same as mine but the surname seems to show as McInhaggart!!
Never trust other researchers. Check the original for yourself and see what you make of it.
See also my Reply #9 below.
Having said that, if it is derived from Mac-an-t-sagairt then it is conceivable that it might at some point have been Mac-an-thagairt, which could have sounded quite similar to Macinhaggart.
There are several variant spellings of Macintaggart in the parish registers at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. Search for M*c*ag*rt to pick up all of them. (The index there does not include any instance of Mcinhaggart, which suggests that 'other researchers' may have misread it.)