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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Flintshire => Wales => Flintshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Deirdre784 on Monday 27 July 15 22:25 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know where I might find baptisms at Overton? The ones on FindMyPast seem to end in 1812 and I'm looking for Joseph Edwards, born around 1820, son of John and Sarah Edwards (nee Roberts), who were married on 8 Feb 1817 in Ruabon, and any possible siblings.
Joseph is consistently recorded as born in Overton despite living in Chirk from 1841 until his death in 1879.
Many thanks,
Deirdre
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Hi,
The Clwyd FHS has the baptisms to 1868, look ups are available. Check out their website.
HTH,
Megran.
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There is this Baptism on Family Search where Overton is wrongly given as Overton Cheshire!
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHFD-2W5
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Thanks Megran, i'll have a look.
Hi WRJ, thanks for that. Interesting as it's from the Cheshire BTs! I was looking in Flintshire ;D
Deirdre
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Hi
Findmypast has the baptism image in Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Bishop's Transcripts Baptisms 1576-1906 The BTs are at Cheshire Record Office.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Overton/index.html (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Overton/index.html)
Andy
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Thanks Andy, just found Joseph and a couple of siblings on FindMyPast, thanks to WRJ finding Overton in Cheshire!! :)
Edited to add: so Overton was in Cheshire at the time, bad enough to have moved districts but to move country ;D
Deirdre
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Hi,
The GENUKI website has information on Overton. A photograph of the church is on the Clwyd FHS website.
HTH,
Megran.
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Hi
I don't know whether Overton was ever in Cheshire but it was in the Diocese of Chester which would explain why the BTs are at Cheshire Archives at Chester. I suspect that Familysearch and Findmypast have put Overton as Cheshire purely because that Archive was the source of the images.
Andy
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http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Overton/
Overton in Flintshire. A little part separated from the large part .
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/overton.html
Overton in Cheshire
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http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Overton/
Overton in Flintshire. A little part separated from the large part .
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/overton.html
Overton in Cheshire
Thanks wilcoxon :)
I've found 4 siblings now thanks to help from everyone. Just the parents - forward and backwards to go!!! I have their wedding...
Deirdre
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I was going to attach a clip from George Edwards' baptism from 1826, in the hope that someone with local knowledge could work out the abode, but I can't add an attachment :'(
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Sorry I haven't been here to comment on this.As has been stated the reason that Overton is wrongly given as being in Cheshire is that one time it was indeed in the Diocese of Chester as opposed to St Asaph.Both for geographic and political purposes,Overton was never in Cheshire.I will be very interested indeed when you get to discussing possible siblings for Joseph's father.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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I was going to attach a clip from George Edwards' baptism from 1826, in the hope that someone with local knowledge could work out the abode, but I can't add an attachment :'(
You should be able to add , just click on Attachments and other options , then browse your files,
Could it be the image file size is too large. The maximum individual size 500KB
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I will be very interested indeed when you get to discussing possible siblings for Joseph's father.
Found what appears to be John and Sarah's marriage but nothing else at the moment :( though one of the witnesses was a Richard Edwards. If the marriage is right, John was from the parish of Llangollen.
No real idea of their age.... just been working through the children to see if I can find John or Sarah with either of them in later years.
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You should be able to add , just click on Attachments and other options , then browse your files,
Could it be the image file size is too large. The maximum individual size 500KB
No it's really small, I'm not given an option to attach a file at all. Could it be because it's in the lookups folder?
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That odd, when I go to add a reply on here, I have the option for an attachment ???
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Under 'Attachments and other options' I get ...
notify me of replies by email (which is ticked)
don't use smileys
return to this topic (ticked).
It is strange as I've certainly been able to add attachments to other posts ???
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/handwriting-deciphering-recognition/
Try posting it here, then give us a link to the thread, and give it a title we can spot easily. ;)
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Thanks Wilcoxon, here you go....
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=726900.new#new
I'll go back and save more of the page in case it helps.
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Could be Cloy. there was a Cloy farm in Overton.
http://www.overton-on-dee.co.uk/old_docs/documents/OvertonUtilities.pdf
see page 6
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http://welshmormon.byu.edu/Resource_Info.aspx?id=2389
And again here.
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Entirely fascinating links wilcoxon.Of course there are a lot of my Direct Ancestors who also hail from Overton.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Yes thanks from me too, lovely to read about the area :)
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Here's what I believe to be the marriage of John and Sarah:
8 Feb 1817 at Ruabon, John, of the parish of Llangollen, and Sarah of the parish of Ruabon, by licence. Witnesses: Richard Edwards and Elizabeth Roberts (all signed)
I've found some info on Joseph and his 4 siblings:
Frances, born 18 May 1817, baptised 12 Oct 1817 in Overton
Joseph, born 23 April 1820, baptised 30 Dec 1821, married Sarah Davies nee Roberts at Ruabon on 21 Oct 1839, died May 1879
Richard and Thomas, twins, born 23 April and baptised 2 June 1822 - Richard married Sarah Allen in Overton, had 9 or more children and died in Overton in 1894. Thomas, possibly in the workhouse in Wrexham in 1891, but nothing else found so far.
George, baptised on 8 Jan 1826, married Eliza Henshall in Shropshire in 1850, had 6 or more children, last seen as a widower in 1901 aged 74 in Whitchurch, Shropshire (recorded as deaf from birth).
No obvious burials in Overton for John or Sarah (or daughter Frances), but maybe they moved away and had more children. Neither appears to be with any of their children. No luck looking for John and Sarah in 1841 or 1851 but difficult without knowing their age or place of birth. I've also looked for John born Llangollen but nothing there either.
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Of course there is always the possibility that John and Saraak Edwards ma have been living in the Erbistock Parish in 1841 as both Parishes are barely half a mile apart.Unfortunately though,if that is the case you are doomed as to never finding them.Apart from a portion of the Wrexham Town the 1841 Census for the Wrexham area is missing I'm afraid.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Thanks WRJ, good to know, though the 1841 isn't very helpful really for age, relationship or place of birth :)
I was hoping to find them in 1851 as they might have only been in their 50s so will keep looking for now. I did find a widowed Sarah in Staffordshire giving place of birth as Llangollen, which I'll look at again.