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Title: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: RichStPete on Tuesday 28 July 15 19:24 BST (UK)

I am searching for info on the parents of Sam Hughes, Hugh and Mary. Sam's marriage at Nannerch, 9 June 1788, to Jane Jones gives the additional information that they are his parents and surnames of both are HUGHES.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 28 July 15 19:46 BST (UK)

Hi again, when I reach the c 1770's I seriously start wondering if the parents were both born in even the same county as their offspring,  their is a Hugh b 1769 Nannerch parents Harry/Elizabeth and if Mary was older 2 1766 Robert & Gwen 1767 Richd & Mary
All baptised Nannerch
Keyboard86

 :'( idiot try looking for marriages!!

Hang on a mo where does it say at the marriage of Sam that Mary was nee Hughes?

Have you the baptism of Sam?

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: RichStPete on Wednesday 29 July 15 01:27 BST (UK)

The marriage record volunteers the names of the bride and groom's parents: Hugh Hughes and Mary Hughes (him)...Edward Edwards and Jane Jones (her). Both of Nannerch.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: RichStPete on Wednesday 29 July 15 01:29 BST (UK)

no baptism for Sam...yet.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 29 July 15 07:54 BST (UK)

Nannerch is currently in Flintshire, Yes.

But I wonder whether  Nannerch may have been in Denbighshire  at the date you are looking at.

The Bishop of St Asaph had a summer house on the outskirts  of Nannerch, I believe.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: Megran on Wednesday 29 July 15 08:40 BST (UK)

Hi,
There are more details re Nannerch on the GENUKI website.
HTH,
Megran.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: RichStPete on Thursday 30 July 15 04:45 BST (UK)

But what does that get me but a list of candidates and no specifics???

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: ScouseBoy on Thursday 30 July 15 18:12 BST (UK)

If you live not far away, it may be worth a trip to Nannerch parish church cemetery.  Look for headstones.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: RichStPete on Friday 31 July 15 06:36 BST (UK)

I live in Florida, USA.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: despair on Friday 31 July 15 07:41 BST (UK)

Looking at the form of records alongside that of Sam Hughes,they all seem to give the parents as of the same surname,which is too much of a coincidence for it to be the maiden name of the mother,I think.
Also, you may have misread the record in that the bride is given as".. widow daughter of Edward and Jane Jones..."(similarly Sam(uel) is given as "..widower,son of...")

Regards
Roger

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: RichStPete on Friday 31 July 15 14:53 BST (UK)

How am I misreading them? Other than the second Hughes surname? I don't have access to those records. I am relying on folk from the UK on here who do.

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: despair on Friday 31 July 15 15:01 BST (UK)

It doesn't say "....daughter of Edward Edwards and Jane Jones....." it says  "...daughter of Edward and Jane Jones..." I think whoever has relayed the data assumed it was Edward Edwards,because the bride is given as an Edwards,but,I suspect this was her married(now widowed) name,and her maiden name was Jones.Apologies for ascribing the interpretation to you.

Regards
Roger

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: RichStPete on Friday 31 July 15 15:23 BST (UK)

Ahhhh, thank you for clarifying, Roger! Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated.
 
Rich Hughes

Title: Re: Hugh Hughes and Mary (both Hughes?)m. prior to 1770, Nannerch
Post by: despair on Friday 31 July 15 15:47 BST (UK)

Unfortunately none of that really helps,because you are left looking for a Mary (maiden name  unknown) as the bride of Hugh,marriage presumably before 1755 as the calculated birth of Samuel.Probably therefore,say 1730-1755,but no guarantee it would be at Nannerch.I will see if I can find anything in Wales Marriage Bonds(online) at The National Library of Wales(NLW).

Regards
Roger