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Title: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Wednesday 29 July 15 06:11 BST (UK)
Hi everyone, I have come up again with another mystery and I'm hoping that you may be able to help me.
I'm looking for the any records of my Uncle. His name was Francis Edward DALEY, and was born in 1909 in Orbost, Victoria. He married my Aunt Florence Elizabeth PATTERSON around 1934 in Queensland, after this his trail goes cold. We believe that he was in the Army, but can't find his records or number. This couple had one son, Ernest....my cousin. He has never seen or known his Father or family, and I'm hoping with your help, I may be able to reunite them.
Would you be able to help me find any information, as I just can't seem to get a break.
Many thanks for your help in the past. Best wishes, Shirley.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: majm on Wednesday 29 July 15 06:23 BST (UK)
The registration of the marriage is displayed at Qld BDM online. 

Do you have a copy of that 1834 marriage?   It will give you the information the groom supplied to the clergy about his parentage.  That information may well help you to find HIM.   I gather you can confirm that your Aunt is no longer living, as you have clearly identified her too.     

The Qld bdm ref no. is C2581.   

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=births

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: majm on Wednesday 29 July 15 06:25 BST (UK)
Do you have copy of the 1952 Qld death registration for an Edward Francis DALEY?

#B37185

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Wednesday 29 July 15 06:31 BST (UK)
Hi, Yes Aunt Florence was my Aunt, and I have sent to Bmd, Qld for the full Marriage Certificate, to get his parents names. Yes we knew that Edward died early, that is why we have not been able to get much info. We thought that his Army records my be of help.
Kindest regards.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: majm on Wednesday 29 July 15 06:38 BST (UK)
There's a submitted tree at Ancestry that has six children for your Aunt, including your cousin, by his given name and a brother by his name too.   To me that is suggesting there's something amiss, as it is my understanding that the names of living people are not displayed at Ancestry.   Perhaps you could contact that tree owner to see if they can advance your quest.   They also have photos  :)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Wednesday 29 July 15 06:51 BST (UK)
Many thanks will look into the Ancestry. She only had two children, two boys! Very strange.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cando on Wednesday 29 July 15 08:41 BST (UK)
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Francis Edward DALEY, and was born in 1909 in Orbost, Victoria.
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I have sent to Bmd, Qld for the full Marriage Certificate, to get his parents names.

Birth

DALEY Francis Edward
Father Cornelius  Mother Edwina WARNE
At Orbost  1906  Reg#29036

Death
1952/B37185   
DALEY Edward Francis   
Father Cornelius    Mother Etta Edwina WAINE

Buried at Lutwyche cemetery   Location ANZ-8-7-9
DALEY Edward  Date of service 10 Apr 1952

Cando


Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: majm on Wednesday 29 July 15 09:01 BST (UK)
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/NameSearch.aspx Cannot find him here .

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cando on Wednesday 29 July 15 09:05 BST (UK)
Parents' marriage in Victoria
DALEY Cornelius Born NSW
WAWN  Etta Edwina Born England
1895  Reg#1792

DALEY Irene Dora
Father Cornelius  Mother  Etta Edwina WAWN
At Orbost  1898  Reg#5573

DALEY Lilly Annetta
Father Cornelius  Mother  Etta Edwina WAWN
At Orbost  1900  Reg#5550

DALEY Ernest Timothy
Father Cornelius  Mother Edwina WARNE
At Orbost  1904  Reg#12566

DALEY Kathleen Eleneanor
Father Cornelius  Mother Edwina WARNE
At Orbost  1909  Reg#5501

DALEY Florence Margaret May
Father Cornelius  Mother Edwina WARNE
At Orbost  1911  Reg#14033

This could be his father's birth in NSW
19527/1875
DALEY Cornelius
Father James  Mother Mary
District Shoalhaven

and mother's birth

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Dec 1865 
WAW_  Etta Edwina    Sunderland    10a/514

and her death in Victoria

DALEY Etta Edwina
Father Lenard WAWMN  Mother Henrietta SHIEVAL
At Burwood  72 years  1943  Reg#7858

Etta and her daughter Kathleen are buried at Box Hill Cemetery
http://boxhillcemetery.org/mapguide/BoxHill/Public/search.php

Cando
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cando on Wednesday 29 July 15 09:16 BST (UK)
Edward Francis/Francis Edward was not enrolled to vote living at the same address as Florence Elizabeth DALEY in Qld. 

He may have enlisted in WW2 and altered his year of birth.  No ID was required when enlisting.

Cando
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 29 July 15 09:34 BST (UK)
Death notice for Etta Edwina DALEY in 1943

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11799017

DALEY.-On July 29, at 9 Lithgow street,
Burwood, Etta Edwina, beloved wife of the
late Cornelius, loving mother oí Cornelius
(deceased), Eileen, Lily, Edith, Ernest (A.I.F..
ret.). Edward, Kathleen, and Florence.

regards
   Ros
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 29 July 15 09:45 BST (UK)
Death notice  notice for an  Edward (Ted) DALEY  ... a possibility?

ROLL OF HONOUR
 In memory of Edward
(Ted) Daley (2/400.087) killed
In action in Korea 7-10-51 and
other members B. Coy. 3rd. Batt, R.A.R
Inserted by Mick Ryan and
 Kevin Tunney.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article63483904

regards
  Ros
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cando on Wednesday 29 July 15 09:57 BST (UK)
Doesn't appear to be him Ros - dob 1926

http://www.koreanroll.gov.au/veteran.aspx?id=1208374

Edward Francis died in 1952 with B registration so died in Brisbane and was buried in Brisbane.

Cando
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cando on Wednesday 29 July 15 10:25 BST (UK)
1871 Census RG10/4999/24/42
Living at 10 Gilsland Street, Bishop Wearmouth
WAWN Edward Head  39 years      Master Mariner  Born Shields, Durham
WAWN Henrietta  Wife  30 years   Born Bishop Wearmouth, Durham
THOMPSON Edward Son  9 years   Born  Northumberland
WAWN Etta E Dau  5 years  Born Monkwearmouth Durham
WAWN  Eleanor D  Dau 3 years Born Bishop Wearmouth, Durham

UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
WAWN Edward Twizell   25 years  Born South Shields, Durham
Issue Date    7 Nov 1857
Issue Port    Sunderland
Certificate#9119

This looks like Etta's parents' marriage
Marriages Jun 1862 
CHATT Henrietta        Newcastle T  10b/152   
WAWN Edward Twizel    Newcastle T  10b/152


Cando
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 July 15 11:18 BST (UK)
Hi,

An Edward Daly QX3800, born 14 Sep 1908 at ORBOST, VIC enlisted at Cairns on 18 Nov 1939
and was discharged 30th June 1945.

Gerry
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 July 15 11:39 BST (UK)
Hi,

Further to my last post, the WW2 file for QX3800, Edward DALY has been digitised on the National Archives Site.

Gerry
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 July 15 12:09 BST (UK)

In brief, the digitised records for QX3800, Edward Daly show that he was single and canecutter   when he enlisted in 1939 and initially there was no next of kin then this was changed to be his sister, Dora Eileen Richarson of Bombala.

After his discharge Edward corrected his date of birth on a rehabilitation form to 19th Sept 1906 at Orbost.

Gerry
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cando on Wednesday 29 July 15 13:11 BST (UK)
WW2 service summary
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=3580

Search here for Edward DALY's service file
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

Attestation form
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=4855005&S=1&T=P

Rehabilitation Form
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=4855005&S=11&T=P

Letter from Mrs F E DALY, Cairns in 1966
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=4855005&T=P&S=16

Mrs F E DALY [no E] stated in a letter written in 1966 that her husband did seasonal work including at the meatworks in Brisbane.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=4855005&T=P&S=17

Perhaps you will find more info in the file.

Cheers :)
Cando
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 July 15 13:52 BST (UK)

1937 Commonwealth Electoral Roll.
Florence Elizabeth Daley, Patterson's, Silkwood, home duties.
Edward Francis Daley, Tully, labourer

Florence was residing at the Patterson's residence at Silkwood while Edward was working as a labourer at nearby Tully probably as a cane cutter and residing in barracks.

1943 Commonwealth Electoral Roll.
Florence Elizabeth Daley, Patterson's, Silkwood, home duties.

Edward was away with the 2nd AIF.

Gerry
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 July 15 14:04 BST (UK)

May 1933, Florence Patterson was working as a waitress in Innisfail, NQ and she was being underpaid.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/41202017?searchTerm=

Gerry
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Thursday 30 July 15 05:13 BST (UK)
Many many thanks people, you have given me so much. Sorry I had to go "off line" yesterday and now will be back for about an hour.
I will now join Ancestry to look over my Aunts tree and try and sort out who belongs to it.
His Army details I will look into, as there seems to be a mystery about where he was, and what he did.
Again many thanks for all your help. Take care all. Best wishes to all, Shirley.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 30 July 15 06:11 BST (UK)
Hi,

Funeral Notice for Edward Daly, QX3800, 8th April 1952.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/50304545?searchTerm=

Gerry
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Thursday 30 July 15 06:33 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the funeral notice......Shirley.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: Rose Bale on Wednesday 19 April 17 08:33 BST (UK)
Hi Cinny 22 - (Shirley)
I believe we are related.
Edward Francis Daley was my grandmothers little brother and my mother's uncle Teddy.
My grandmother was Eileen Dora Daley (married name Richardson.) Your cousin Ernest was my mother's cousin Ernest named after his uncle (Edwards eldest brother.) I don't know if my mother and I can provide you with any new information but I am sending you this message because it's always exciting to find new relatives.
Kind regards,
Rose.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Wednesday 19 April 17 09:14 BST (UK)
Hi Rose,
                Nice of you to contact me. Would like to have contact with you via my email address? Would you be interested?
        Best wishes, Shirley.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Wednesday 19 April 17 22:46 BST (UK)
Hi RoostsChat team,

                          In my last message about Edward Francis Daley, I put my email address. Would it be possible now for you to take it off, as my family have now contacted me?
Best wishes, Shirley.
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 19 April 17 23:12 BST (UK)
Hi Cinny,
   The moderators will remove it soon.

   But in the meantime you could remove it yourself.  Just hit modify button (at top of your post) and then backspace over the e-mail address.

   Ros
Title: Re: Edward Francis Daley.
Post by: cinny22 on Thursday 20 April 17 00:09 BST (UK)
Thank you Ros, i have removed it...........many thanks. Shirley. :)