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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: Pamchetland on Sunday 02 August 15 11:44 BST (UK)
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I have read on this site that Parkburn House was owned by Crighton Stevenson, I can remember my mother talking about both Parkburn House and Chrighton Stevenson, other than that I know that we used to visit Harry Stevenson and his wife Kathleen Stevenson in Kilsyth around the 1940s, Kathleen was my mother's cousin and Harry Stevenson was Chrighton Stevenson's brother
Kathleen was Kathleen Taggart Miller before she married she had a sister Jenny Miller who married Peter Linn St Clair the third sister Minnie married and lived in Kelvin Way in Kilsyth but I cannot remember her married name, Kathleen, Minnie were both born in Ireland Jenny in Kilsyth and their parents were Alexander Miller and Mary Ellen Taggart both from Ireland, Mary Ellen Taggart's parents were George Taggart and Mary Ann Wallace according to her DC
I am trying to find the connection between my mother's family and the the Millers as my grandmother was also born in Ireland(Co Antrim) her maiden name was Kate McIntyre
I am hoping that may trigger some memories that could help
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Hello Pamchetland,
I have sent you a personal message, as the St. Clair family from Kilsyth
is part of my family tree. You can contact me if you require more info by personal message.
As e-mail addresses are not allowed on the main board, but only on personal messages.
yours,
Wilton Endeavour
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Hi There I have hit a brick wall tracing my mothers birth mother. My mother was born in Parkburn House Kilsyth on 4/1/1927 at 10.00pm, her mother was Agnes Connor domestic servant whose address was given as 9 Church Lane Kilsyth. No fathers name was added. I have searched census records and Scotlands people without success for Agnes Connor, there is no marriage or death that I could find. One story was that Agnes was a young Irish girl who was brought to Kilsyth to have her baby which was then adopted. My mother was brought up by the McKenna family since birth. On her birth certificate her name is given as Bridget McKenna Connor so they knew they were taking her. The Connor was dropped and my mother was always knows as Bridget McKenna until she married my dad Terry Christie from Croy..There was no legal adoptions in 1927 so there are no records there either. Any help much appreciated.....Marie
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Hi Marie
My mother used to visit Kilsyth around 1933-1935 ish she came over from Ireland to visit her cousins and I know she used to visit Parkburn House her direct relatives were Millers Taggarts and ther were also Doyles all of them Irish but so far I have not been able to come to any conclusions about who is connected to who
My mother's mother was the connection and she was from Co Antrim the Doyles I think were just friends were from Dublin where my mother's family settled after my grandfather when he retired from the army
I have looked at the 1911 Irish Census and there are a few Agnes Connors on it but kind of difficult to pick out one
The story about Agnes being sent over to have her baby seems quite feasible given all the Irish connections around Parkburn House but I am more inclined to think that as on her BC she is named Bridget McKenna Connor that perhaps her father was one of the McKenna sons and his mother and father then adopted her
I have found Bridget McKenna on an Ancestry tree which gives her parents as Edward McKenna and Bridget Higgins they were both from Co Monaghan
I have attached a picture of Bridget Higgins and one of Bridget McKenna I hope
Pam
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Here is the one of Bridget McKenna
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Hi there this is my mother and grandmother.... Def wasn't one of the McKenna's who was the father, my mother was told about her adoption when she was getting married and her birth mothers name, would have been told who her father was if he was known. Where did you find details of an Agnes Connor? Thanks for your reply...
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Hi Marie
I found the information and pictures on an Ancestry family tree, if you have access to Ancestry it is Coyle Family tree, I just entered Bridget McKenna b 1927 Kilsyth and up it came
It has occured to me that perhaps a sister of Bridget Higgins or Edward McKenna had married somebody called Connor and Agnes was their daughter, it seems to me that there must be some connection for Agnes to be sent to Kilsyth
I had thought of trying to get in touch with the Coyle tree to see if they knew anything about it
Pam
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Hi Marie
I have contacted the Coyle Tree but in the meantime I have discovered that there was an Agnes Connor born to a James Connor and Margaret Fox in 1908 in Coatbridge and by 1911 they were living in Kilsyth so perhaps this could be your Agnes Connor who by the age of 19yrs may well have been working in Parkburn House as a domestic help
Pam
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Hi Pam thanks for that, sounds like it could be the missing link....regards Marie
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I am delving into the family history of my mother in law. Her mother was Kathleen Millar who was the daughter of Alexander and Mary Millar (MS Taggart) originally from Ballymena. I found the details from the geneat web site. Mary's parents I thought were James and Ann Taggart but reading an earlier thread maybe not.
My mother in law is interested to know more about the life of Alexander and Mary prior to them moving to Kilsyth in Stirlingshire, Scotland where they eventually settled in and around 1910. She is keen to try and find out why they moved to Scotland or indeed any other information. Can you help?
Riddell Graham
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Welcome to RootsChat, Riddell.
According to the deaths index at www.scotlandspeople,gov.uk there is a death of a Mary Ann Taggart or Miller in Kilsyth in 1943. So she was born about 1870.
The index to the 1911 census in Kilsyth lists what looks like two Millar households consisting of Alex, 40; Elizabeth B, 36; Mary, 35; John, 32; Kathleen, 15; Minnie, 13; Mary L S, 3; Elizabeth A, 1; and Jenny, 0.
There are births of Mary Livingston Millar and Elizabeth Allan Millar in 1908 and 1909, mother's maiden surname Lockhart; and Jennie Millar, mother's maiden name Taggart, was born in Kilsyth in 1910. John Millar married Elizabeth Bryde Lockhart in Kilsyth in 1907.
However I am not seeing a marriage of Mary Taggart to Alexander Mill*r in the a marriages index at www.irishgenealogy.ie and I can't see Kathleen in the 1901 census in Ireland.
You need to go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits.
Use some of them to look at the birth certificate of Jennie Millar. This will tell you the date and place of her (and therefore Kathleen's) parents' marriage.
Use some more to look at Mary Taggart or Miller's death certificate. This will tell you if Alexander had or had not died before her, which will help to find his death, and it should tell you the full names of Mary's parents including her mother's maiden surname. Actually he is probably the Alexander Miller, mother's maiden surname Wilson, who died in Kilsyth in 1921 aged 62. His death certificate will tell you the full names of both his parents.
And you could also take a look at the original of the 1911 census, which might tell you where in Ireland they were all born.
Unrelated question - might the initials SBTB mean anything to you? A simple yes or no will suffice until you have made enough posts to use the Personal Message system.
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Thanks very much. Yes SBTB means Scottish Borders Tourist Board I was CEO there in late 1990’s early 2000’s
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Hi Riddell was your mother in law Marion Miller Stevenson if so I would be related to her my Mother was a niece of Mary Ellen Miller nee Taggart and I used to visit Kathleen Stevenson Marion's mother along with my mother in Kilsyth we lived in Falkirk I have Mary Ellen Taggart's death certificate and I have Jennie Miller's birth Certificate on which it gives Alexander Miller and Mary Ellen Taggart marriage date as 8 Mar 1898 in Co Antrim
These I can send to you if you want them
Regards Pam
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Riddell, I've sent you a PM.
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Yes my mother in law is Marion Stevenson so I will let her know of the connection. What is your full name and where do you live to allow me to place you with Marie and also who was your mother. This will help with explanations.
It would be great to have those certificates. Thanks
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My Mother was Ivy Mary Cockburn she married Alexander Dennison and my name was Pamela Catherine Dennison and I must have met Marion way back in the late 40s my mother and I would visit Marion's mother Kathy in Kilsyth and there was also Kathy's sister Jennie who married Peter St Clair I have a family tree on Ancestry which I could send you an invitation to but I would need your email address to do that but we can do it through a private message
I will try to sort out these documents for you and send them in a separate email
Pam
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Thanks Pam. Really helpful.
I have emailed you separately
Best wishes
Riddell