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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Spidermonkey on Sunday 02 August 15 22:39 BST (UK)
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It's a church :) possibly with a caravan park behind it?! :-\
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Those two trees in the churchyard don't look like trees from the UK do they? Is that a caravan site on the left?
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I am certainly interpreting it as a caravan site! I'm not sure what the trees are; if it helps, I'll rescan them tomorrow to see if they can be identified.
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The trees look like some sort of palm, not a tree that would grow well in the UK. We do have palm trees in the south (Torquay is one place I remember them) but they are difficult to keep alive in our winter and I believe they have to bubble wrap them for protection.
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Here is a close up of the tree to the right of the lychgate
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Erm, a Phoenix Palm?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61fiu73NALL._SY300_.jpg
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Yes, it does look like a Phoenix Palm. Maybe it's in the Channel Islands, I will have a mooch.
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" native to the Canary Islands east across northern and central Africa, the extreme southeast of Europe (Crete), and southern Asia from Turkey east to southern China and Malaysia."
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" native to the Canary Islands east across northern and central Africa, the extreme southeast of Europe (Crete), and southern Asia from Turkey east to southern China and Malaysia."
Well that narrows it down ;D
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It just looks so utterly British though (except for the palms ;))
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I agree, doesn't look African or "southern Asia from Turkey east to southern China and Malaysia." What about Cornwall where the climate is milder?
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I'm thinking Jamaica mon
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That looks like it could even be a sago palm (move aside Alan Titchmarsh :P), not that it's useful information.
Could be Australia….
Caz
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Actually Spain springs to mind, holiday village at the back, tropical climate, lots of palms (a very religious symbol), maybe somewhere with a strong British influence based on the style of the church.
…..sorry I'm being as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike as the saying goes! ::) ::) ;D ;D
Caz
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Perhaps because I am Aussie, ..... but I wonder if this is somewhere in Australia. I am wondering ....those "Palm Trees" surely are possible for Australia. :)
Cheers, JM
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Well I had one very similar in my front garden, so it's definitely a possibility for Australia! ;D
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I have frequented St Albans C of E at Mussellbrook NSW so I have seen the trees there !
;D
Add
http://www.visitnsw.com/destinations/hunter/upper-hunter/muswellbrook/attractions/st-albans-anglican-church
Cheers, JM
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The church looks Scottish to me - & the west coast of Scotland benefits from the Gulf Stream, quite 'tender' plants can flourish.
Pat
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That's a good suggestion Pat, I have been looking up and around Ullapool, but not come up with anything yet.
I'm going to display my utter ignorance here - but when did caravan parks start to be in vogue, and would these have been towed caravans or early versions of the long static caravans you have now?
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Well OH thinks the church is limestone so it makes him think Derbyshire - So that makes the exotic plants a bit surprising ::) :)
He thinks the caravans are statics, maybe 50s / 60s.....
??? ???
Pat
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I agree they are more than likely statics, they are all the same design, with doors and windows in the same place. If you look at a photo of a touring caravan site, there are multiple styles and shapes.
Is there a building on top of the hill, it looks like a solid block, a castle maybe, it might even have a flag flying.
Pat
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Many thanks for your latest ideas. I'm on my holidays, and internet access is very patchy. Will be back in Blighty next week so will pick up the hunt then. A bientot
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Hi all, back from our holibobs, youngest has nearly recovered from food poisoning, and the 15 loads of washing has nearly all been done..........
I have scanned the portion of the photo with the caravans and the possible castle. I think that the castle is in fact a rocky outcrop - what do you think?
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Arent they cabins? Not caravans
Have to have another look
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Well, now that you have scanned it ..... the cabins don't seem to have chimneys .... so could be AUSTRALIA .... and the Rocky outcrop yes, it is a natural feature, not a built one.
I will ask around in my family....
fingers crossed.
Cheers, JM
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Are you thinking Atherton Tablelands majm?
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Yes, actually I was. Are you a mind reader ;D
I will be up that way (actually on the coast, Cairns) on the Oct long weekend, this year. Hopefully we can get back up and into Ravenshoe etc to get some photos if this has not been solved by then. We need to visit family at both Mareeba and Smithfield .... so fingers crossed.
Cheers, JM
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Just looking at some pictures of the Atherton Tableland (via Mr Google) - what an absolutely stunning place!
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Beautiful .... and has seen much tragedy too.
Cheers, JM
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Arent they cabins? Not caravans
Have to have another look
I was just thinking that when I looked at the enlarged picture - they look too squat somehow for caravans......and the doors look too tall.
Glad to see you thought so too David.
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Just looking at some pictures of the Atherton Tableland (via Mr Google) - what an absolutely stunning place!
Has this been solved? OH and I still expect that we will be in the area next weekend.
Cheers, JM
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I'm staying here in the Atherton Tablelands for another couple of weeks and will ask some locals what they think. If it's this area, those buildings on the left could be workers' accommodation in the old days of rainforest logging.
Carol
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I've shown the picture to several people in two local towns, including visitor centre staff and a local historian. None of them thought it was a Tablelands scene - one said the church was too grand for this area, but the small buildings might be part of a mining camp elsewhere in Australia.
Not sure whether this helps much :-\
Carol
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Just looking at some pictures of the Atherton Tableland (via Mr Google) - what an absolutely stunning place!
Has this been solved? OH and I still expect that we will be in the area next weekend.
Cheers, JM
JM, I believe Spidermonkey has had internet problems which would explain why she hasn't posted. As you can see, I've drawn a blank here.
Carol
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Thanks Carol,
We intend getting to Herberton and Ravenshoe this Sunday, so I will show around there too, just in case.
I am sure Spidermonkey will be back once the internet realises how important it is that we can sort this out for her. :) :)
Cheers, JM
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Huzzah! I have found the portal that brings me back to the land of internet. Not that I am blaming Windows 10 for everything, but updating certainly didn't help matters.........
No - this beauty still hasn't been found :'( but thank you both for flashing the photo around the Atherton Tablelands :-*
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Welcome back ;D
Forgot to mention, someone suggested it might be a Roman Catholic church because of the Celtic style of cross on the top :-\
Carol
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Perhaps I'm clutching at two straws at once,but does this church not have more than a passing resemblance to St John the Baptist,Frome,which would go with your enquiry #9,the manor house,which I tentatively suggested was Mells?
http://www.fromefamilyhistorygroup.co.uk/gallery/Fgallery1-1.jpg
Regards
Roger
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Is it possible to see what it is on the tip if the spire? Or is that missing off the photograph?
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I think I've convinced myself that it is not St John's Frome.The relative position of the tower and spire,the height of the main body of the church in relation to it,and the absence of any view that shows a lychgate,all lead me to that conclusion.
Regards
Roger
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You have been busy, Roger, but I agree with your later assessment that this one in Frome isn't "ours".
As you say, the alignment of the spire and nave is wrong: on "ours" there is a porch in what appears to be the west end of the nave (liturgical west - geographically it might be otherwise), with the spire at the NW corner. With the Frome church we seem to be looking at the east end, with the spire at the SW corner.
In addition, the architectural style is different. I know this can differ from one part of a church to another, but the large window in "ours" is Perpendicular with 4 lights (note the vertical lines of stonework (tracery) going all the way from bottom to top), whereas the Frome one is in a Decorated style with 5 lights.
Decorated is earlier than Perpendicular, and the tracery doesn't go all the way to the top of windows, instead branching out into some kind of pattern. Early Decorated, like this, has regular/cirular patterns, and is known as Geometric; later the patterns don't have circles and it's known as Curvilinear.
Arthur
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Thanks Roger for the Frome suggestion, I can see why you suggested it!
Thank you also to Arthur for the architectural explanations.
I am leaning to it being overseas - I caught an episode of Homes in the Med or something like that the other night when they were in the Costa del Sol, and some of the scenery resembled the area around this church.
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I haven't found anything yet, but I've been toying with the idea of the west coast of Ireland, or SW Scotland. The palms (?), the hills to the east (and caravans?) would all be consistent with the milder climates of far western coasts...
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Looking at this one again, I see there are noticeboards on the uprights of the lychgate. Would anything show up with a very high-res scan?
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Just an update to an old post in case anyone who participated in the search is still curious about it ;)
It’s Hoskins Memorial Church, Lithgow, NSW.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sww/
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01swx/
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01swy/
Regards
Trish
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Oh thanks for letting us know this has, at last, been solved!
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Well done Trish! That’s 2 mystery locations you have solved in less than 24 hours, now go for the hat trick with Where Am I No. 12 (please) ;D
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Another amazing find!!! ;D ;D ;D