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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Buckinghamshire => Topic started by: flateric999 on Thursday 06 August 15 22:40 BST (UK)
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Well I know how people love these little mysteries!!
So what do I know?
Thomas and Martha marry in Astwood in april 1830. (name transcribed as Glidwelt)
Thomas and Martha baptize a child called Martha Glidwell Wright. There is a burial recorded in June, her baptism being in May.
There is another Martha Wright baptism in December 1830 to Thomas Wright and Mary (nee Taylor)
Now I thought I had all the Wright's but it looks like I missed one! Who is Thomas? Who is Martha? Is the name Glidwell now Glidewell? or are these different names?
I'm kinda hoping someone can look as well, or has knowledge of Glidwell/Glidewell in Bucks and can assist in identifying who these guys are.
Cheers
Mike
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The Glidwells in my tree lived in Bedfordshire, although I suspect the original came from Astwood in the 1700s.
Spellings I have come across are: GLIDWELL; GLIDEWELL; GLIDLE; GLIDAL. It settles down to GLIDEWELL in the 19th century.
There's a Martha Glidewell baptism at Astwood in 1810 on familysearch - which is probably the same person who married Thomas Wright. (The only other one born around that time was in Stagsden, Bedfordshire in 1817, and she married in Bedfordshire)
A Martha Wright was buried at Astwood 16 May 1830 - the same day that Martha Glidwell Wright was baptised.
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The Glidwells in my tree lived in Bedfordshire, although I suspect the original came from Astwood in the 1700s.
Spellings I have come across are: GLIDWELL; GLIDEWELL; GLIDLE; GLIDAL. It settles down to GLIDEWELL in the 19th century.
There's a Martha Glidewell baptism at Astwood in 1810 on familysearch - which is probably the same person who married Thomas Wright. (The only other one born around that time was in Stagsden, Bedfordshire in 1817, and she married in Bedfordshire)
So do we know who Thomas was? It looks like he may be born in Cranfield. I cant find an Astwood born Thomas Wright. (Well I can, there are two of the right age but they married other people)
A Martha Wright was buried at Astwood 16 May 1830 - the same day that Martha Glidwell Wright was baptised.
What age? was this Thomas' wife?
Did the Glidewell family say in Astwood? Perhaps you can help another line of enquiry? Gladys LH Glidewell in 1941 married Stanley Wright in Wolverton, I think. Is this Glidewell linked to those in Astwood
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The burial record is from familysearch, which doesn't give ages although the original record should have that information. Given the date of the event it would seem likely that it is Thomas' wife, but you would need to confirm that.
Buckinghamshire Family History Society publishes CDs of parish records, or you can pay for a search for, eg all baptisms of a particular name.
http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/index.php/database-searches
Martha's parents Robert and Elizabeth Glidewell baptised two sons named James (in 1803 and 1807) at Astwood as well as Martha in 1810, but no more after that date. I think that they are probably the Robert Glidwell and Elizabeth Spakes who married at North Crawley 11 October 1802.
(There seem to be more Glidewell events at North Crawley than at Astwood). This couple, aged 70 and 60 respectively, still appear to be living in Astwood Bury in 1841 (as Glidwell). Robert is an agricultural labourer.
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I can't see a birth of a Gladys L H Glidewell, but there is a Gladys L E Glidewell birth registered September Q 1911 in Newport Pagnell district. Mother's maiden name Green
Gladys Lucy E Wright dob 17 July 1911 died in North Buckinghamshire district in 1981.
A James Glidewell married December Q 1908 in Newport Pagnell district, possible bride Elizabeth Jessie Green.
You would need to see the marriage register entry to know who James' father is.
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Hello Mike
From Astwood PRs......
Marriage 12 Apr 1830 - Thomas WRIGHT, bachelor of this parish married Martha GLIDWELL, spinster of this parish by Banns Witnesses: James Glidwell & Sarah Warren.
Baptism 16 May 1830 - Martha Glidwell daughter of Thomas & Martha Wright of Astwood, labourer
Burial 13 June 1830 - Martha Glidwell Wright age 6 weeks of Astwood
Also burial on 16 May 1830 of Martha Wright age 20 (* this is Martha Glidwell?)
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Baptism 29 Mar 1810 Martha daughter of Robert & Elizabeth GLIDEWELL
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Note. Thomas Wright & Martha Glidewell were witnesses at marriage on 6 Jan 1829 by banns of Thomas DUNKLEY, Bachelor otp & Edith WRIGHT, Spinster otp
Edith Wright 1805 was daughter of Charles Wright & Ann Bason who also had a son Thomas 1807; he married Naomi Woods at Stagsden on 13 May 1832.... need to check Stagsden PRs to see if it says he's a widower?
Cheers John
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1851 census
Astwood
Thomas Wright 43 farm labourer Astwood
Naomi Wright 37 Stagsden
William Wright 17 Stagsden
five younger children born at Astwood
There is an older daughter named Caroline born c1831 with them in 1841 who is lodging with a widow named Ann Hobbs in 1851.
Thomas' age and birthplace would link him to the son of Charles and Ann which John found.
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Well that would make sense. Martha Glidewell then is Thomas' first wife. This seems likely to be Thomas who married Naomi as his second wife.
Martha Glidwell most probably died either during, or as a result of birth of her daughter. I am assuming mother and daughter are buried together in another of Astwood's unmarked graves.
Brilliant results so far guys thankyou.
All I need to do now is establish if there is a link to these Glidewell and Gladys who marries Stanley in 1941.
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Martha's parents Robert and Elizabeth Glidewell ........ This couple, aged 70 and 60 respectively, still appear to be living in Astwood Bury in 1841 (as Glidwell). Robert is an agricultural labourer.
Robert Glidwell buried Astwood 20 Jun 1844 age 71 & Elizabeth Glidwell buried Astwood 16 Feb 1842 age 61. So Robert was born c.1773, is he the one baptised Astwood on 28 Mar 1773 son of Thomas & Mary Glidwell.
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Looking back at my notes found banns at Stagsden dated 3 Jan 1915 for marriage of Walter James Glidewell of Stagsden to Emily May Wright of Astwood. Marriage index March quarter, Nerwport Pagnell RD, ref 3a/1467. Emily was born 1881 daughter of William John Wright & Elizabeth Flute.
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Thanks John, more stuff to add to my growing tree.
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Hi Mike, here's 2 interesting news cuttings from the local paper...
Bedfordshire Mercury Saturday 20 August 1864
Astwood... On the afternoon of Friday, the 5th instant, a man named Thomas Wright, 57 years of age, in the employ of Mrs Finch, was carting gravel in the parish of Hardmead, when he kicked upon a stone and fell, and the wheel of the loaded cart passed over his left thigh, causing a compound fracture. He was removed to the Bedford Infirmary.
Bedfordshire Mercury Saturday 27th August 1864
see attached inquest report
cheers John
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Coincidently a William Wright died in similar circumstances in 1864 similar injuries, this time caused by Hay laden cart, and the same infection!!
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Mike, Who is this William Wright? Where did he die/get buried. There's a death index in March 1865 Newport Pagnell district. I cannot place him in my database.
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Absolutely no idea. Can't find him. I've trawled over loads of records and even compared 1861 census with 1871 for disappearing Williams but I can't find him!!
It's a different article so it's not the same incident you found.
Update. Looking the articles side by side there are a lot of similarities, including the details and injury. The date also appears to be the same, 5th August.
So did two accidents happen on the same day or are two papers getting details wrong.
I have failed to locate a William this could relate too. I am thinking now this is the same person, that is our Thomas. Was he christened Thomas William?
Mike
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Mike
What newspaper is this report of William Wright's death? The date of accident was the 5th, Thomas died on 24th at Bedford Infirmary & for him there's a death index Sept 1864 Bedford 3b/203.
If William died in same period there should be a death index for him in same quarter. The only one is for the Wycombe district which is far away from Astwood.
John
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One was the Bedfordshire one you found, the other Cambridgeshire I'll pop back on find my past later and be more specific.
I am thinking though, it's the same accident not two different ones.
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Cambridge Independent Press 27 August 1864
Astwood- Fatal Accident - On Thursday afternoon last an inquest was held at the general infirmary before D.Prior, coroner for the borough, on view of the body of William Wright of Astwood, cowman, who was admitted with a compound fracture of the left thigh and other injuries received while with load of hay. On the 17th eryspeilas supervened and he died on Thursday morning at two o'clock - verdict "accidental death"
So is this Thomas William Wright, ie the same person, or is it a William neither of us have records of ?
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Cambridge Independent Press 27 August 1864
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(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5760/21145135045_15ca1cc240.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ydwkXT)William (https://flic.kr/p/ydwkXT) by Mike Wright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/10346091@N07/), on Flickr
So is this Thomas William Wright, ie the same person, or is it a William neither of us have records of ?
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I say this is the same accident to the same person, ie Thomas Wright ... the report in Cambridgeshire paper is incorrect. There is no death index for William Wright in Bedford RD in Sept qtr 1864