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Title: When did Robert Vass and James Vass die?
Post by: cecile on Monday 17 August 15 16:57 BST (UK)

I cant seem to find dates of death for some of my Scottish ancestors, can anyone help please?
James Vass born abt 1798 Glasgow
his wife Janet McNair born abt 1799 Glasgow married 27.3.1818 in the Gorbals Glasgow

also
Robert Vass born abt 1769
his wife Helen Brunton born abt 1775 married 5.6.1796 in Barony Glasgow
Many thanks
Cecile

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: ev on Monday 17 August 15 17:16 BST (UK)

Hi ,

Scotlandspeople has the death of a James Vass 1872 Lanark(shire) , born c1799.

Perhaps you have looked at that one already  :-\

Have you found James or Janet on any Census ?



ev

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 17 August 15 17:20 BST (UK)

Do you have the family on any Census (helps pin down the area of death search)?
For example, the 1841 Scottish Census has a James Vass, 40, Jannet, age 40 + Helen, James, Margaret and Rebecca  at Cheapside Street, Barony, Lanarkshire.

Ages fit allowing for rounding down.

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 17 August 15 18:00 BST (UK)

Do you have any marriages for their children after 1855 which would signify if the parents were deceased which is also good for time frames  ???

Also another good tool is the fact that women are registered in their maiden names upon death as well as married name in Scotland  :P

Annie

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: cecile on Monday 17 August 15 18:22 BST (UK)

Thank you so much for all that info. I have been on Scotlands people but not found any Census. I did find a James Vass but he was a visitor so no family named so I am not sure if he was the right one or not.
I will have a look what info I have already got on them (which isn't much). Their daughter (and granddaughter) is Davina Watt Vass who is my gt.gt.grandmother.  She married Robert Fraser that much I do now, but I know nothing of her parents and grandparents. I do now they were all from Scotland. Davina and Robert moved to Liverpool eventully.

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 17 August 15 18:28 BST (UK)

If married in Scotland after 1855 both mother & father will be named for bride & groom.

Also, use the name variant or soundex options for different spellings which was common.

Annie

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: cecile on Monday 17 August 15 21:08 BST (UK)

Many thanks
Cecile

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 17 August 15 22:45 BST (UK)

Cecile,  Vass is an Easter Ross name.

Skoosh.

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: greeneyedgirl on Tuesday 18 August 15 06:55 BST (UK)

Hi, a few bits........

Deaths:

James Vass  1857  age 70  Glasgow
                   1872  age 73  Glasgow

Janet McNair 17 Aug 1837  age ---  Glasgow
                    9 Dec 1830  age ---  Glasgow
                   1860  age ---  Glasgow
                   1872  age 72  Glasgow
                    1858  age 1  Glasgow
                   1885  age 39  Glasgow
                   1871  age 0  Glasgow

Robert Vass  24 June 1840  Glasgow
                   26 June 1840 (prob same as above one)  Glasgow
                   13 Nov 1822  Glasgow

Helen Brunton   6 Aug 1834  Glasgow
                       15 Sept 1838  Glasgow (this is Helen Brunton Vass)

Marriages:

30 Sept 1853  Davida Vass married Robert Fraser  Barony, Glasgow

9 Dec 1870  Donald Skinner  age 35  occ: fisherman  res: Shandwick, Nigg
                   father: Alexander Skinner  occ: fisherman   mother: Ann Vass
                  Davidina Vass  age 19  occ: domestic servant   res: Balintore, Fearn
                  father: Donald Vass (dec.)   mother: Bell Vass (dec.)

Hope this helps, Kim

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: cecile on Tuesday 18 August 15 08:00 BST (UK)

This is great. Many thanks. I am so grateful for your help.
Best wishes
Cecile

Title: Re: When did they die?
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 18 August 15 11:35 BST (UK)

So they're the Balintore Vass's as I suspected.

http://www.seaboardvillages.com/

The superb photography on this site is by Linda Vass.  ;D

Skoosh.

Title: Re: When did Robert Vass and James Vass die?
Post by: cecile on Tuesday 18 August 15 12:33 BST (UK)

Fantastic pictures. Its nice to know where my family lived.
Thank you for that.
Cecile

Title: Re: When did Robert Vass and James Vass die?
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 18 August 15 15:05 BST (UK)

Cecile. the Vass's were fisher folk, they didn't inter-marry much with their agricultural neighbours.

More Vass stuff on-site, enter Vass in the search-box.

Skoosh.

Title: Re: When did Robert Vass and James Vass die?
Post by: cecile on Tuesday 18 August 15 15:34 BST (UK)

Thanks for that Skoosh (where is the search box?)

Title: Re: When did Robert Vass and James Vass die?
Post by: cecile on Tuesday 18 August 15 15:38 BST (UK)

Hello again Skoosh
I think I've found it!