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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: jimmyjarv on Tuesday 18 August 15 19:41 BST (UK)
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Help/advice would be appreciated on James Jarvey, a Dyer born c 1776 in "Scotland" but where? After 1800 he christened his children in the New Connexion Methodist Chapels of Manchester. I have no other information on where he was born and so have reached a brick wall.
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Hi , welcome to RootsChat :)
Can you list his children ?
It might help to identify his parents ?
ev
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You may know this already but it might help others find James birthplace.
James Jarve Happelonea Saille
Marriage 12 Nov 1798 Saint John, Stamford, Lincoln
James Jarvey & Applenia (noted on all, various spelling), baptisms
CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER
George Jarvis 19 Feb 1809
James Jarvey 28 Jul 1811
METHODIST NEW CONNEXION,PENDLETON BY SALFORD,LANCASHIRE
William Jervis 8 Jan 1822
Henry Jervis 22 Jun 1822
Thomas Jervis 21 Mar 1824
1841 Hills Croft, Eccles, Salford, Lancashire
James Jarvey Male 60 1781 Scotland Cotton dyer
Happelonia Jarvey Female 60 1781 - no
Wm Jarvey Male 25 1816 Lancashire, England Cotton dyer
Charles Jarvey Male 20 1821 Lancashire, England labourer Died 1850?
Thomas Jarvey Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England Blacksmith
Geo Barrett Male 11 1830 Lancashire, England
APOLONIA JARVEY, burial 14 Jul 1848 age 68 (1780) Eccles, Lancashire, wife of James
JAMES JARVEY died 1846 SALFORD, Lancashire
Colin
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Usual spelling in Scotland is Jarvie. Worth bearing in mind when searching.
Imber
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Have you looked at Scotlands People? There are several James Jarvie possibilities there:
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Imber
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Usual spelling in Scotland is Jarvie. Worth bearing in mind when searching.
And I've seen it as Jarvis. Probably best to search for Jarv* to be sure to cover all bases.
I have some Jarveys in my tree. There are conflicting stories about the origin of the name, though they seem to be agreed that it is from the personal name Gervase.
According to G F Black's The Surnames of Scotland the earliest documented mention of the name is in Stirling in 1527.
There are a lot of trees online saying that John Jarvey, vintner in Bathgate, was born 26 July 1719 in Guienne, Normandy. (Guienne is in Aquitaine, not in Normandy, though there could be another place of the same name in Normandy). They are all copied from a tree by Bonnie Hickox, which contains several major errors.
There is also a tree by Naomi Simpson Beck which says he was George Gervaise, born about 1740 in Guienne, Normandy. This is plainly nonsense as he married in Bathgate in 1748. In any case Beck's tree also contains some other major errors, so cannot be relied on.
There is another tree, not online, of the family of Sir James Young Simpson saying that his grandfather John Jarvey was born at the farm of Boghall in the parish of Bathgate.
A biography of Sir James Young Simpson [Duns, 1873] says that, "John Jarvey, farmer at Balbardie, near Bathgate, was descended from a Huguenot family, who had been settled for some time at Torwood, Stirlingshire, whence they removed, at the latter end of the seventeenth century, to the farm of Boghall, Bathgate, which members of the house held for nearly a hundred years".
Note, however, that the earliest mention of the name, in 1527, is pre-Reformation and therefore before there were such people as Huguenots.
Jervis(e) or Jarvis is also from the personal name Gervase. The earliest mention of this surname, according to Black, was in 1287.
All variants of the name seem to be concentrated in east central Scotland - Stirling, West Lothian, Angus, Peebles, Falkirk.