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Title: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Friday 21 August 15 15:48 BST (UK)
I have just about given up on the 1861 census with Adam and Helen (b1833) married 2 June 1854 in Jedburgh.   In 1871 still in Jed at 91 Castlegate (where most of the Robsons lived and died over the years).   Daughter Janet Riddell R born 1860 in 76 Castlegate.    I have tried and spent loads of time and money to trace them in 1861 but to no avail.   He was a stonemason and died in 91 CG in 1874.   Helen (Ellen) nee Mabon died same place No 87) in 1893
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 21 August 15 15:52 BST (UK)
Have you seen this one  :D

1861 - add 76 Castle Street!

Janet R Purves but Janet R Robson in brackets 10 months
Adam Purves 29 - mason
Ellen 27
Archibald 6
William 5
John 3

Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Friday 21 August 15 16:10 BST (UK)
Milliepede

I am sitting here almost in tears - you solved in 30 seconds what has taken me weeks if not longer.   How do you do it???    The annoying thing is that on this entry page on SP I already had info on another Robson.    Cant seem to see the entry re Janet R Robson    Thank you very  very much, now on to the next problem.
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Friday 21 August 15 16:47 BST (UK)
Milliepede

I am always amazed and delighted with the Rootschatters and their help.   I usually have a some credits left on SP after my monthly allocation so if I can help you in any way please ask.

thanks again
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Friday 21 August 15 17:18 BST (UK)
The last remaining mystery of this family is John born 20 Feb 1858 castlegate, jed and on the 1861 census.    No further info found
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 21 August 15 18:03 BST (UK)
That's sweet of you to offer thank you but keep them for yourself  :)

I was lucky someone had put the right name in brackets as just typed in Janet Riddell Robson born 1860 and up it came! 

Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Friday 21 August 15 18:18 BST (UK)
I tried that and got zilch on SP and FindMyPast      where did you get it???
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 21 August 15 18:24 BST (UK)
On ancestry, am having a look for John.
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Friday 21 August 15 18:26 BST (UK)
M    you are a star and my offer still stands
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 21 August 15 18:32 BST (UK)
Have you found Adam in 1871?  Maybe he and John are together.
Helen is with 6 children as head.  No Janet with her just Archibald and William from before plus 4 younger children.
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Friday 21 August 15 18:58 BST (UK)
I, for some reason have Adam in 91 Castlegate in the 1871 census.   Cannot remember where this info came from     Oh dear here I go again!!!!!
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 21 August 15 19:43 BST (UK)
At that address I can see
Helen Robson head 57 - should be 37
Archd 19
Wm 14
Maggie 8
Andrew 6
Isabella 3
Elizabeth 1

Are those children right?  No Adam or Janet or John listed  :-\

Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 21 August 15 19:48 BST (UK)
It looks right(ish) as they are at same add in 1881.

Ellen Robson 48
Wm 24
Maggie 18
Adam 16
Isabella 14
Lizzie 12
Jane 6



Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Saturday 22 August 15 07:47 BST (UK)
Yes all kids look right Janet R died in 1863 and Adam snr died in 1874.     still leaves the 1871 mystery???
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: terianne on Monday 24 August 15 13:17 BST (UK)
Remember the Census is based on where a person was at the time of the Census, not where a person  lived.  Adam as a mason, he may have been working away or visiting someone on that day, you may never know. He may have been working with or visiting his father who was also a mason.
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Monday 24 August 15 14:04 BST (UK)
Thanks Terianne

yes I have looked all over GB on the 1871 census to no avail.    His father Archibald is a lodger in Melrose and his mo is at 91 Castlegate Jedburgh but no sign anywhere of him and son John (b1858)
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 26 August 15 10:03 BST (UK)
I've been looking too but nothing  :(

It's funny he died at the same address his mother was in 1871 yet isn't with her. 
Helen is definitely down as Head which infers he wasn't at home with her and just got missed off.

Have you looked for a death for little John?
Title: Re: ADAM ROBSON b 1832 where are you in 1861???
Post by: BW252 on Wednesday 26 August 15 11:05 BST (UK)
Hi M

yes lots of births and deaths at 91 Castlegate.     No sign of a death for young John at all.   As he was only 13 I presume he was an apprentice Mason helping Dad or he died before 1871 but nothing coming up at all