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Title: Enfield, Co.Meath, Ireland
Post by: Ghostwheel on Thursday 03 September 15 17:36 BST (UK)
I've not been able to find any information about the records for the surrounding Catholic Parish.  Does anyone know whether the old records survive or are amendable to search?

The period I would be most interested in would be the 1830s-1840s.

I know the Irish government does not seem to own copies.  In another similar case, that of Killorglin, Co. Kerry, I know there are at least indexes.  But I've simply not been able to find any info on, I believe it would be called, Rathcore Parish, Co. Meath.

It is somewhat frustrating, as I have a possible lead, I'd like to test out, which comes from the Tithes.
Title: Re: Enfield, Co.Meath, Ireland
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 03 September 15 18:55 BST (UK)
If i've got this correct Enfield/Innfield is in the townland of Johnstown so in the RC Parish of Rathcore and Rathmolyon and the only surviving parish records are from 1878 forward.

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0965
Title: Re: Enfield, Co.Meath, Ireland
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 03 September 15 19:10 BST (UK)
Killorglin
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0683
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?diocese=KERRY+(RC)&parish=KILLORGLIN&submit=Search

BTW Welcome to Rootschat
Title: Re: Enfield, Co.Meath, Ireland
Post by: Ghostwheel on Thursday 03 September 15 19:18 BST (UK)
Thank you, Sinann.  It is good to have this resource.

 I have also seen that 1878 ref., but am not sure what it means.

I know several parishes, just a handful really, never turned over their records to the Irish government.  One other example being Killorglin, Kerry.  In the case of Killorglin, I believe that the Irish government never took films of the records, but the records do certainly exist in some form.  Weirdly, the Irish government itself hosts a site where indexes to Killorglin can be searched, although apparently they don't hold any of the images.

In another case, that of Clane Parish, Kildare, I know that the government holds many of the records, but they seem to not hold all of them.  More records seem to be available locally, possibly filling in the gaps in the listings, say for example the 1790s.  Possibly some death records too.  I deduce this from a researcher who said he lived near Clane having found names and years I couldn't find on the internet.

For all I know, they may still be records held locally.  They may have simply not trusted anyone with their older books.  I've tried to contact the parish once, but to no avail.
Title: Re: Enfield, Co.Meath, Ireland
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 03 September 15 20:19 BST (UK)
Irish Genealogy Toolkit is very good for making sense of what is available
http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/trace-family-history.html
Title: Re: Enfield, Co.Meath, Ireland
Post by: Ghostwheel on Friday 04 September 15 00:48 BST (UK)
I would also recommend Irish Genealogy Toolkit.  It really helps you to understand the process of finding and ordering civil records.  I know I made a lot of progress using them along certain sides, they can help one connect to older records.

It is curious.  Enfield to me seems like it was an important town in the area.  Funny not to be able to find any earlier info on it or the surrounding area.

Title: Re: Enfield, Co.Meath, Ireland
Post by: Sinann on Friday 04 September 15 10:30 BST (UK)
RootsIreland transcribe in the Parish,(I've spoken their guy in my local parish centre) so if the records survive RootsIreland should have them eventually. (For the areas they cover)
It's an on going project.

This is the records they have for Meath
http://meath.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=sources.tpl&selectedMenu=sources
But these lists can sometimes be out of date.
You could contact them and ask about Rathcore as its not on the list but Rathmoylan is listed.
Their email is on that page.

You have to accept that sometimes the records didn't survive.