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Hello there,
I am researching my Great Grandparents, George Harry NELSON & Edith Annie FISHER. George was born in Shepshed and Edith probably in Hathern. They got married in Loughborough in 1915.
George was a tailors fitter and Edith a dressmaker. Their first son, my Grandad Raymond Fisher NELSON, came along in 1916 and was born in Nuneaton (Chilvers Coton).
I'm not very solid on the above info - as I am not totally certain about their marriage details. Plus it seems that between 1916 and at least 1921 they were in Nuneaton for some unknown reason. My Grandads brother Victor Harry NELSON came along in 1922, but he was born in Leicester.
If anyone can help with this part of my family tree, then I would be very grateful. My Dad said very little about his family and passed away in 1990 - which is why I have so many holes now.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
John.
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The marriage was indeed in the Loughborough Registration District in 1915 ;D
September qtr 1915
Loughborough district vol 7a, page 403
Nelson, George H
Fisher, Edith A
If you don't have it, a copy of the Marriage Certificate would confirm their fathers names, addresses and occupations of the happy couple and their fathers.
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The marriage was indeed in the Loughborough Registration District in 1915 ;D
September qtr 1915
Loughborough district vol 7a, page 403
Nelson, George H
Fisher, Edith A
If you don't have it, a copy of the Marriage Certificate would confirm their fathers names, addresses and occupations of the happy couple and their fathers.
Thanks for the reference numbers and confirmation. I'll be applying to the GRO for the certificate. :)
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This could be George's birth?
September qtr 1885
Loughborough district vol 7a, page 129
Nelson, George Harry
And Edith?
September qtr 1886
Loughborough district vol 7a, page 123
Fisher, Edith Annie
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This looks like his parents in the 1901 census in Shepshed Loughborough
George Nelson b 1851 age 50 Hawker in stocking & pants own account
Mary A Nelson ( Roberts ) b 1854 Shepshed age 47
Harold Nelson b 1885 Shepshed
Harry Nelson b 1886 age 15 Tailors Apprentice
William Roberts b 1821 age 80 father in law
Can't post details of the later census but Harry is recorded as George
Looks like his brother was killed in the war
Harold Nelson b 1885 Shepshed died 25/9/1915 France & Flanders
Leicestershire Regiment number 1939
Personal belongings despatched to his mother Mary Ann Nelson
Forest Street Shepshed Loughborough
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This could be George's birth?
September qtr 1885
Loughborough district vol 7a, page 129
Nelson, George Harry
And Edith?
September qtr 1886
Loughborough district vol 7a, page 123
Fisher, Edith Annie
For George Harry, I have the 4th July 1885 - born in Shepshed.
For Edith Annie I have 1887 in Hathern. But this is by no means certain.
At the moment I'm a little less sure about Edith Annie - plus I'm trying to work out why they ended up in Nuneaton, which was where my Grandad Raymond was born. They were resident at the address where he was born as I have a copy of his birth certificate.
Perhaps George Harry found a job as a tailor there.
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This looks like his parents in the 1901 census in Shepshed Loughborough
George Nelson b 1851 age 50 Hawker in stocking & pants own account
Mary A Nelson ( Roberts ) b 1854 Shepshed age 47
Harold Nelson b 1885 Shepshed
Harry Nelson b 1886 age 15 Tailors Apprentice
William Roberts b 1821 age 80 father in law
Can't post details of the later census but Harry is recorded as George
Looks like his brother was killed in the war
Harold Nelson b 1885 Shepshed died 25/9/1915 France & Flanders
Leicestershire Regiment number 1939
Personal belongings despatched to his mother Mary Ann Nelson
Forest Street Shepshed Loughborough
Thanks so much for those. I'll check the info against what I already have.
I've found some text about what happened to Harold Nelson near Ypres in 1915. He was literally only over there for a matter of 3 months before he was tragically killed.
I can share the text via PM - because as I found it online I don't want to end up causing a copyright problem.
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Loughborough to Nuneaton is only 32 miles or so - practically next door!
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DON'T buy the marriage cert yet please - I can see it at Loughborough library. can also check baptisms etc.
may be in later today or Friday
Diddy :)
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Loughborough to Nuneaton is only 32 miles or so - practically next door!
It seems until the later 1800's, people tended to stay put in one place a lot. The Nelson's spent a good couple of generations in Shepshed, before that they were up Newark on Trent way. On my Mum's side, the Holylands were in Desford from the 1600's, until they moved to Leicester in the early 1800's.
Strange how these migrations happen. I suppose I'm just interested in "why" my Great Grandparents moved to Nuneaton. I was also born in Nuneaton, and spent my early childhood in Hinckley. :)
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DON'T buy the marriage cert yet please - I can see it at Loughborough library. can also check baptisms etc.
may be in later today or Friday
Diddy :)
Thats very nice of you Diddy. Will have to buy you a drink one day, if we ever get over to the UK. ;)
Ironic that my Dad's family came from the Loughborough area - I nearly went to Uni there.
Cheers,
John.
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This looks like his parents in the 1901 census in Shepshed Loughborough
George Nelson b 1851 age 50 Hawker in stocking & pants own account
Mary A Nelson ( Roberts ) b 1854 Shepshed age 47
Harold Nelson b 1885 Shepshed
Harry Nelson b 1886 age 15 Tailors Apprentice
William Roberts b 1821 age 80 father in law
Can't post details of the later census but Harry is recorded as George
Looks like his brother was killed in the war
Harold Nelson b 1885 Shepshed died 25/9/1915 France & Flanders
Leicestershire Regiment number 1939
Personal belongings despatched to his mother Mary Ann Nelson
Forest Street Shepshed Loughborough
Mary Ann Roberts died in December 1916 at Hall Croft, Shepshed. According to my records.
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it will be Friday - forgot the library now closed Wednesday.
I did go to L'boro uni.....
Diddy
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there is a list of Shepshed gravestones in the library - if there are any stones I can photograph them. I am very close to Shepshed being North side of L'boro.
Diddy
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it will be Friday - forgot the library now closed Wednesday.
I did go to L'boro uni.....
Diddy
Sounds like here in France. My kids have a half day at school. So I have the joys of their company this afternoon.
I managed to get a place on a foundation course at Loughborough Uni - which I turned down. I ended up at Leicester School of Printing for 2 years instead. Then when I went for an interview for a HND at Loughborough Uni after that, I didn't get accepted.
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yes I came over to Calais a couple of years ago to do Wednesday Meccano workshops with school children as consultant to set up the Calais Museum of Meccano.
next years French Meccano guild (CAMS) exhibition is also in Calais. we hope to come... part depending on when my new French daughter in law to be fixes their wedding date!! (Limoges)
Diddy
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yes I came over to Calais a couple of years ago to do Wednesday Meccano workshops with school children as consultant to set up the Calais Museum of Meccano.
next years French Meccano guild (CAMS) exhibition is also in Calais. we hope to come... part depending on when my new French daughter in law to be fixes their wedding date!! (Limoges)
Diddy
Thanks for the offer of taking photos... I've just PM'ed you about the above.
Cheers,
John.
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John - nothing but dead ends!!
Marriage: not found all churches Loughborough; Shepshed / Hathern /IGI Leics
Baptism George Harry: not found Shepshed / L'boro / IGI Leics
Edith annie: not found Hathern / Shepshed / L'boro / IGI Leics
I DID find in the IGI Leics:
Baptism: George Nelson 20/3/1851 Shepshed s/o James Nelson & Mary Draper so I think that is the next generation back.
Loughborough District was very large covering many villages but seems funny that they are not in Shepshed or L'boro.
Diddy
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John - nothing but dead ends!!
Marriage: not found all churches Loughborough; Shepshed / Hathern /IGI Leics
Baptism George Harry: not found Shepshed / L'boro / IGI Leics
Edith annie: not found Hathern / Shepshed / L'boro / IGI Leics
I DID find in the IGI Leics:
Baptism: George Nelson 20/3/1851 Shepshed s/o James Nelson & Mary Draper so I think that is the next generation back.
Loughborough District was very large covering many villages but seems funny that they are not in Shepshed or L'boro.
Diddy
Many thanks for taking the trouble to look, Diddy.
The next generation back corresponds with what I have already. However I just checked my census entries. In 1901 George Harry is named as plain Harry Nelson - Tailors apprentice (on the birth certificate I have for George Harry's son, Raymond, he is listed as a Tailors Fitter - as occupation).
In 1901, the address was The Lant, Shepshed.
Birth details:
Name George Harry Nelson
Registration Year 1885
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district Loughborough
Inferred County Leicestershire
Volume 7a
Page 129
As for his wife, Edith Annie Fisher (who was a dressmaker on their son's birth certificate) I'm a little less confident about what I've found for her. But I've not found anything else that corresponds.
The Nelson (my Dad's) family in general has been far more difficult to research than my Mum's family... I had a little more to go on for her family - even if some of the things my Grandma used to say have turned out to be taken with a grain of salt (like my Grandad being a lapsed Jew for example(!)
John.
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Since writing the above, I have purchased the marriage certificate for my Grandparents (Raymond Fisher Nelson & Mavis Timson) - which gives an address in Leicester for Raymond and his father George Harry.
Pre 1940 they were both living at 112 Knighton Fields Road East, Leicester.
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So... a few more additions about my Great Grandparents - thanks to my Dad's cousin David in London.
George Harry Nelson (everyone called him Harry) operated a business from 112 Knighton Fields Road as a tailor for "high end weddings". Edith Annie Nelson (Ne Fisher) was a dressmaker. So the pair of them operated together. The front room was used to measure up the clients and a back bedroom was where they made the clothes.
Life was pretty hard, they could really be in the money one minute then very poor the next. Of their two sons Raymond (my Grandad) married my Grandma, Mavis (ne Timson) in 1940 then left home. I am presuming that they went to live with Mavis' parents in Chapel Street, Enderby. After the war they moved to Stanhope (later renamed Swinford) Avenue in Glen Parva. - Anyone know more about the prefabs here?
In the 1939 "census" Mavis was living at 67 Chapel Street, with her parents Athur Forryan Timson and Catherine (Ne Cooper) and was employed as a boot & shoe hand.
The other son, Victor, was sent to India in 1942 and returned at the end of hostilities in 1945.
George Harry Nelson died in hospital in 1952, from a condition related to him having being gassed during WW1. His son Raymond had been born in Nuneaton in 1916. Around that time Harry was in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, so I'm presuming this was why he was living there at the time.
Victor, his wife Edna and their son David (the cousin of my Dad's in London) lived at 112 Knighton Fields Road until 1958, with Edith Annie Nelson. After Victor and his family had left, Edith lived at the house with her cousin Annie Spence and Edna's sister Kathleen. Edith passed away in 1962.
John.
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Loughborough to Nuneaton is only 32 miles or so - practically next door!
Have since found out they were in Nuneaton because my Great Grandad was in the Warwickshire Regiment during WW1. He took part in the offensive at Vimy Ridge alongside the Canadians.
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Mary Ann Roberts died in December 1916 at Hall Croft, Shepshed. According to my records.
Could anyone help me with confiming this fact? Finally not 100% sure.
She was born in Shepshed in 1855 or 56.
Thanks,
John.
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FreeBMD is showing:
Deaths, March qtr 1916
Leicester Registration District vol 7a, page 725
Roberts, Mary A age 67
So, estimated birth c1849.
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FreeBMD is showing:
Deaths, March qtr 1916
Leicester Registration District vol 7a, page 725
Roberts, Mary A age 67
So, estimated birth c1849.
Thanks a lot for the look up. I'll have to check that. Her husband George Nelson was born in Shepshed (or Sheepshed) 1855. Her birth date is still OK to correspond with the birth of their children. Sadly they lost 7 of their children as toddlers or younger. Some of the deaths were recorded in the local press.
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FreeBMD.org.uk is free to use! ;D
You can do the lookups yourself ;)
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FreeBMD.org.uk is free to use! ;D
You can do the lookups yourself ;)
I'm glad you looked, as I know it is free but didn't even think of looking there! Instead I was trawling Ancestry and couldn't find anything related to her death - which is weird.
Another odd thing is that I haven't been able to find Mary Nelson in the 1891 census, however I have found George who appears to be a boarder in Calverton (his immediate family was from Nottinghamshire). Mary & George had married in 1873, had a few children, many of whom died as babies/toddlers - then for some reason by 1891 they were living apart.
In the 1901 census they were back together again and had had more children, again losing some of these.
Sounds like they had a really tough time.
I have two photos, who I think are of them on my blog (http://superpositoire.blogspot.fr/2016/08/unknown-victorian-relatives-in.html).
Thanks for your help,
John.
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Remember that the census only shows where people were on 1 specific night ;D
There can be many reasons why a husband and wife were apart on that single night.
EDIT:
You didn't mention that Mary was married?! Her death will be under her married name, so:
Deaths, December qtr 1916
Loughborough Registration District vol 7a, page 156
Nelson, Mary A Age 62 (so birth c1854)
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Remember that the census only shows where people were on 1 specific night ;D
There can be many reasons why a husband and wife were apart on that single night.
EDIT:
You didn't mention that Mary was married?! Her death will be under her married name, so:
Deaths, December qtr 1916
Loughborough Registration District vol 7a, page 156
Nelson, Mary A Age 62 (so birth c1854)
DOH! Sorry about that. Been a tiring week. :)
So that matches with what I had - although I had no source for the info as I suspect it came from someone else's tree. I have since stopped using data from other trees on Ancestry. Too risky.
I found it a bit odd that George Nelson was a boarder in Calverton (Notts) with no sign of his children. I'm convinced it is him as the age and place of birth match. The Nelson family was orginally from Notts: Lowdham, Lambley and Burton Joyce. George's father, James Nelson, was born in Lambley then moved to Shepshed in 1851 where George was born.
So it seems George probably headed back to Nottinghamshire to work alongside family members who lived near Calverton. Mary Nelson could have stayed in Shepshed, but as yet I've found no trace of this.
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I was researching my own great-grandfather who had the same name as yours (but no relation). Anyway, I found an report of your great-grandfather's wedding in the Melton Mowbray Mercury and Oakham and Uppingham News - Thursday 05 August 1915 - George Harry Nelson, youngest son of George Nelson of Sheepshead married Edith Annie Fisher, youngest daughter of John T. Fisher the chair of the parish council. The wedding was on the Wednesday before the publication date of the paper. The bride wore "ivory silk crepe poplin" and a "picture hat", and carried a bouquet of pink roses. The bridesmaids (Eva Fisher and Joyce Nelson) wore "pale blue silk crepe poplin". Hymns included "O Love, Divine and Golden", the happy couple arrived by motor-car and the bridegroom's brother Will Nelson was there. The Rev. W. V. Phillips officiated. Oh, and they got lots of presents.
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Amazing stuff!
Many thanks for sharing that with me, this will be interesting for the few family members I'm still in contact with.
George Harry & Edith went on to have a small business producing wedding outfits. He was a tailor and Edith a dressmaker.
At the time of their wedding, I'm assuming that George Harry hadn't already enlisted in the Warwickshire Regiment, as at that time they both moved to Nuneaton. Their son, my Grandad, was born in 1916 in that town.
I was researching my own great-grandfather who had the same name as yours (but no relation). Anyway, I found an report of your great-grandfather's wedding in the Melton Mowbray Mercury and Oakham and Uppingham News - Thursday 05 August 1915 - George Harry Nelson, youngest son of George Nelson of Sheepshead married Edith Annie Fisher, youngest daughter of John T. Fisher the chair of the parish council. The wedding was on the Wednesday before the publication date of the paper. The bride wore "ivory silk crepe poplin" and a "picture hat", and carried a bouquet of pink roses. The bridesmaids (Eva Fisher and Joyce Nelson) wore "pale blue silk crepe poplin". Hymns included "O Love, Divine and Golden", the happy couple arrived by motor-car and the bridegroom's brother Will Nelson was there. The Rev. W. V. Phillips officiated. Oh, and they got lots of presents.
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I'm glad that you like it.
You must be right about your great-grandad not being in the army at the time of his wedding because they'd have mentioned it otherwise. He did sign up (or re-enlist) for WWI and was discharged sick shortly before the armistice, receiving the silver war badge.
I got the day wrong, the paper actually said ""Two weddings of considerable local interest were solemnised at the Baptist Church on Monday, and were witnessed by large numbers of friends and parishioners."
Incidentally, the church was specially decorated because the bride the first wedding, Edith Randon, had been the organist at the church for 5½ years so they really spruced the place up as a tribute to her. The second wedding was that of your ancestors George Harry Nelson and Edith Annie Fisher. The paper also mentioned that 'Mr. and Mrs. Fisher entertained numerous guests at "Ferndale."'
The only other article about a George Harry Nelson which I can find is definitely about some other George Harry Nelson because our respective ancestors would have been too young to be the person in question. It's an article about a George Harry Nelson who picked a fight with an NCO and got the worst of it.
George Harry Nelson, a groom, accused Hugh Dougen, a sergeant-instructor, of assault in the Railway Hotel in Rugby.
Nelson had 'entered into a tirade against the army in general and Sergeant Dougen particular, used offensive language towards the Queen, called Sergeant Dougen a coward, and invited him into the stable-yard where he said he would "knock corners off him"'. That was a bad idea because when he actually tried to have a go, Sergeant Dougen floored him.
Nelson then went to Court and had Sergeant Dougen brought up on charges of assault, but all of the witnesses disagreed with Mr. Nelson's version of events, and the magistrates relased Sergeant Dougen (but made Mr. Nelson pay costs and kept him in custody).
Amazing stuff!
Many thanks for sharing that with me, this will be interesting for the few family members I'm still in contact with.
George Harry & Edith went on to have a small business producing wedding outfits. He was a tailor and Edith a dressmaker.
At the time of their wedding, I'm assuming that George Harry hadn't already enlisted in the Warwickshire Regiment, as at that time they both moved to Nuneaton. Their son, my Grandad, was born in 1916 in that town.
I was researching my own great-grandfather who had the same name as yours (but no relation). Anyway, I found an report of your great-grandfather's wedding in the Melton Mowbray Mercury and Oakham and Uppingham News - Thursday 05 August 1915 - George Harry Nelson, youngest son of George Nelson of Sheepshead married Edith Annie Fisher, youngest daughter of John T. Fisher the chair of the parish council. The wedding was on the Wednesday before the publication date of the paper. The bride wore "ivory silk crepe poplin" and a "picture hat", and carried a bouquet of pink roses. The bridesmaids (Eva Fisher and Joyce Nelson) wore "pale blue silk crepe poplin". Hymns included "O Love, Divine and Golden", the happy couple arrived by motor-car and the bridegroom's brother Will Nelson was there. The Rev. W. V. Phillips officiated. Oh, and they got lots of presents.
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So is your Nelson family in any way related to mine? Just curious. :)
It seems my branch came from Nottinghamshire originally, the villages of Lambley and Lowdham. My 3rd GGD moved to Shepshed from the latter in the 1840's. We've had a Leicestershire connection ever since (although I now live in France).
My Great Grandad George Harry Nelson somehow ended up in the Warwickshire Regiment, so was based in Nuneaton, at least from 1916 onwards. His brother Harold Nelson, was enlisted in the Leicestershire Regiment in 1914 and was killed near Ypres in 1915. The Leicestershire County Council Memorials Project has this page (http://www.leicestershirewarmemorials.co.uk/war/casualty/view/8776?fbclid=IwAR3oG33q9atYTKDKvVtfuYCMInSnaCUKb42Ya4T2swNFnofF9ebuNN8j8ME) about him, which I have contributed to. Apparently he died with a group of Shepshed men, I think this was a "friends brigade" or something like that.
Apparently my Great Grandad GH was wounded twice during the conflict and have been told he fought at Vimy Ridge at some point. Like a lot of ex WW1 soldiers he suffered with ill health for the rest of his life, due to mustard gas poisoning. Thanks for the extra details.
The Randon name is also on my family tree. John T Fisher's sister Margaret was married to a George Randon. Also (oddly), his brother Frederick married another Randon, Rosetta Randon. So the Randons would definately be cousins of my Great Grandma Edith Fisher, in the next generation. Although I haven't got an Edith Randon on my tree... probably have yet to find her.
So that is perhaps why there was a double wedding. But having said that, John T Fishers brother James Fisher, married into the Tollington family - which also had a group wedding of the Tollington sisters. There is a photo of the ceremony somewhere on Ancestry.
I suppose it was cheaper to have a group family wedding??? LOL
I'm glad that you like it.
You must be right about your great-grandad not being in the army at the time of his wedding because they'd have mentioned it otherwise. He did sign up (or re-enlist) for WWI and was discharged sick shortly before the armistice, receiving the silver war badge.
I got the day wrong, the paper actually said ""Two weddings of considerable local interest were solemnised at the Baptist Church on Monday, and were witnessed by large numbers of friends and parishioners."
Incidentally, the church was specially decorated because the bride the first wedding, Edith Randon, had been the organist at the church for 5½ years so they really spruced the place up as a tribute to her. The second wedding was that of your ancestors George Harry Nelson and Edith Annie Fisher. The paper also mentioned that 'Mr. and Mrs. Fisher entertained numerous guests at "Ferndale."'
The only other article about a George Harry Nelson which I can find is definitely about some other George Harry Nelson because our respective ancestors would have been too young to be the person in question. It's an article about a George Harry Nelson who picked a fight with an NCO and got the worst of it.
George Harry Nelson, a groom, accused Hugh Dougen, a sergeant-instructor, of assault in the Railway Hotel in Rugby.
Nelson had 'entered into a tirade against the army in general and Sergeant Dougen particular, used offensive language towards the Queen, called Sergeant Dougen a coward, and invited him into the stable-yard where he said he would "knock corners off him"'. That was a bad idea because when he actually tried to have a go, Sergeant Dougen floored him.
Nelson then went to Court and had Sergeant Dougen brought up on charges of assault, but all of the witnesses disagreed with Mr. Nelson's version of events, and the magistrates relased Sergeant Dougen (but made Mr. Nelson pay costs and kept him in custody).
Amazing stuff!
Many thanks for sharing that with me, this will be interesting for the few family members I'm still in contact with.
George Harry & Edith went on to have a small business producing wedding outfits. He was a tailor and Edith a dressmaker.
At the time of their wedding, I'm assuming that George Harry hadn't already enlisted in the Warwickshire Regiment, as at that time they both moved to Nuneaton. Their son, my Grandad, was born in 1916 in that town.
I was researching my own great-grandfather who had the same name as yours (but no relation). Anyway, I found an report of your great-grandfather's wedding in the Melton Mowbray Mercury and Oakham and Uppingham News - Thursday 05 August 1915 - George Harry Nelson, youngest son of George Nelson of Sheepshead married Edith Annie Fisher, youngest daughter of John T. Fisher the chair of the parish council. The wedding was on the Wednesday before the publication date of the paper. The bride wore "ivory silk crepe poplin" and a "picture hat", and carried a bouquet of pink roses. The bridesmaids (Eva Fisher and Joyce Nelson) wore "pale blue silk crepe poplin". Hymns included "O Love, Divine and Golden", the happy couple arrived by motor-car and the bridegroom's brother Will Nelson was there. The Rev. W. V. Phillips officiated. Oh, and they got lots of presents.
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Continued...
Interesting story about the "other" George Harry Nelson - although my GH was also in Warwickshire around then, I really can't imagine him being an aggressive character. In the few photos I have of him he looked rather a gentle character. Edith by contrast looked quite a hard woman. I don't have many photos of her smiling, even the one I have of her as a young woman taken in Loughborough market place!
I can see I have a lot of research to do into my Great Grandparents - in particular, it looks like George Harry didn't go off to war until AFTER his brother Harold was killed.
Thanks again for contributing this info.
I'm glad that you like it.
You must be right about your great-grandad not being in the army at the time of his wedding because they'd have mentioned it otherwise. He did sign up (or re-enlist) for WWI and was discharged sick shortly before the armistice, receiving the silver war badge.
I got the day wrong, the paper actually said ""Two weddings of considerable local interest were solemnised at the Baptist Church on Monday, and were witnessed by large numbers of friends and parishioners."
Incidentally, the church was specially decorated because the bride the first wedding, Edith Randon, had been the organist at the church for 5½ years so they really spruced the place up as a tribute to her. The second wedding was that of your ancestors George Harry Nelson and Edith Annie Fisher. The paper also mentioned that 'Mr. and Mrs. Fisher entertained numerous guests at "Ferndale."'
The only other article about a George Harry Nelson which I can find is definitely about some other George Harry Nelson because our respective ancestors would have been too young to be the person in question. It's an article about a George Harry Nelson who picked a fight with an NCO and got the worst of it.
George Harry Nelson, a groom, accused Hugh Dougen, a sergeant-instructor, of assault in the Railway Hotel in Rugby.
Nelson had 'entered into a tirade against the army in general and Sergeant Dougen particular, used offensive language towards the Queen, called Sergeant Dougen a coward, and invited him into the stable-yard where he said he would "knock corners off him"'. That was a bad idea because when he actually tried to have a go, Sergeant Dougen floored him.
Nelson then went to Court and had Sergeant Dougen brought up on charges of assault, but all of the witnesses disagreed with Mr. Nelson's version of events, and the magistrates relased Sergeant Dougen (but made Mr. Nelson pay costs and kept him in custody).
Amazing stuff!
Many thanks for sharing that with me, this will be interesting for the few family members I'm still in contact with.
George Harry & Edith went on to have a small business producing wedding outfits. He was a tailor and Edith a dressmaker.
At the time of their wedding, I'm assuming that George Harry hadn't already enlisted in the Warwickshire Regiment, as at that time they both moved to Nuneaton. Their son, my Grandad, was born in 1916 in that town.
I was researching my own great-grandfather who had the same name as yours (but no relation). Anyway, I found an report of your great-grandfather's wedding in the Melton Mowbray Mercury and Oakham and Uppingham News - Thursday 05 August 1915 - George Harry Nelson, youngest son of George Nelson of Sheepshead married Edith Annie Fisher, youngest daughter of John T. Fisher the chair of the parish council. The wedding was on the Wednesday before the publication date of the paper. The bride wore "ivory silk crepe poplin" and a "picture hat", and carried a bouquet of pink roses. The bridesmaids (Eva Fisher and Joyce Nelson) wore "pale blue silk crepe poplin". Hymns included "O Love, Divine and Golden", the happy couple arrived by motor-car and the bridegroom's brother Will Nelson was there. The Rev. W. V. Phillips officiated. Oh, and they got lots of presents.