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Seeking marriage of Mary CONNELL to ? LEVY in the late 1800s. No idea of groom's first name. No record found in New Zealand or Australia. Mary b 1868 Wanganui, christened Maraia Jane Connell in St Mary’s Catholic Church 20 Dec 1868. Mary Levy and her son Henry Levy were named as beneficiaries in the will of Mary’s mother Mary Jane Connell d 1 Aug 1900 Wanganui, NZ
Mary Levy was a witness at the death of her sister Jane Bridget Connell at the Paremata Railway Station, NZ on 25/12/1895. Papers Past Evening Post 27/12/1895.
James Connell married widow Mary Jane Deane (nee Mullins) 14/11/1867 in Wanganui NZ.
They had 8 children plus two children from her first marriage.
Any help appreciated
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Link to topic on main board to prevent duplication of others research
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=730558.msg5753730
Mary Jane Connell 1900 will on familysearch - with her childrens names to prevent looking for childrens names
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89SB-FS9Y-H
"The children of James and Mary Jane Connell, born Wanganui NZ
Maria (Mary) Jane b 20/12/1868. Married name Mary Levy. No idea of her husband's first name. Mary Levy was a witness at the death of her sister Jane Bridget in a railway accident in Paremata NZ 1895
John b 21/5/1871
Patrick b 31/7/1872
Kate b about 1874
Jane Bridget b 17/2/1877 d 25/12/1895 in a railway accident, Paremata Station, NZ
Margaret b 19/8/1878 d 21/1/1879
Bridget Esther b 20/3/1881
Francis Michael b 26/9/1883
All (except Kate)christened at St Mary's Catholic Church, Wanganui
Only the males John, Patrick and Francis were registered in the NZ BDM's
All these children were named in the will of Mary Jane Connell who died 01/8/1900
The daughter of Patrick Connell was the only family line I could trace."
Connell Levy marriage still undiscovered
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Hi Diggels,
Do you have the birth of Henry Levy?
Cheers Janette
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Hi Janette
Nothing certain. There are two possibilities
Henry James b NZ 1896, mother Mary, father Robert Alexander Levy
Henry James b NZ 1900, mother Maria Annie, father Ralph Levy
I would have to buy the birth print outs to prove beyond reasonable doubt!
Henry must have been born prior to July 1900 when he was named in his grandmother's will.
I still can't find the marriage of Mary Connell to ?? Levy in NZ or Australia pre 1900
Thanks
Diggels
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Hi Diggels,
Re the 1900 birth for Henry James Levy, the date was 18.4.1900.......
Minniehaha.
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Just for the record....
Cousin Lucy Gastroe was travelling with her.
Fatal Railway Accident
http://tinyurl.com/p6cpep6 (http://tinyurl.com/p6cpep6)
The cousin was Lucy GESTRO, daughter of Fanny (http://www.geni.com/people/Frances-Gestro/6000000019983356847) and Joseph (http://www.geni.com/people/Joseph-Gestro/6000000019983275606) of Pahautanui/Paremata
Lucy married a Charles Frederick Brogden HOBBS in 1899.
She was a cousin through the maternal line so not directly helpful in answering the original question.
Regards
Beg
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Hi Minniehaha
Thanks for the birth date of Henry James Levy 18/4/1900. Can you please give me a few more details, parents names, where did you find the exact date? I found the birth of Henry James Levy in 1900 on NZBDMs. Mother Maria Annie, father Ralph Levy. It's a possibility but not quite sure if this is the one I'm looking for.
Thanks
Diggels
Hi Beg
Thanks for the info about Lucy Gestro, I have quite a lot of info on the Gestro family. Her mother was Frances (Fanny)Gestro (nee Mullins), sister of my g.grandmother Mary Jane Connell (nee Mullins). If you are interested I have the contact of a very keen distant relative who is researching the Gestro family in depth - especially their connection to the fishing industry in early Wellington.
Regards
Diggels
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Hi Diggels
RE : Henry James LEVY - born 1900 - son of Maria Annie and Ralph
This birth was registered at Waihi (as was that of another child of above couple - Mabel Sarah - reg'd 1901. A further two of their children's births reg'd at Tairua and Auckland.)
Am I right in recalling info posted to your current Australia board thread has already ruled out the above birth (with details given for Maria Annie LEVY nee HEDGE ... etc. ) ??
~ Lu
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Nothing certain. There are two possibilities
Henry James b NZ 1896, mother Mary, father Robert Alexander Levy
Henry James b NZ 1900, mother Maria Annie, father Ralph Levy
Diggels
Hi
Where did you find this 1896 birth ?
~ Lu
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From PapersPast :
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Evening Post" (Wellington) - 20 May 1895 - (Education Board Finance)
A quarter way down column >
... A four-year-old boy named Henry LEVY had a narrow escape of a very serious accident
at Paremata last week ...
~ Lu
[Note: This Henry LEVY born circa 1891 ]
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Link to topic on main board to prevent duplication of others research
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=730558.msg5753730
For what it's worth, I believe that Henry LEVY (son of Mary LEVY) is most likely to be the soldier who died in 1916 > known as "Harry LEVY" :
See Reply No. 6 at above link, by "jorose".
~ Lu
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NZ Probate Record :
Viewable at >
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481
"Harry LEVY - residence: Murchison -- Probate Year 1918 "
The record consists mainly of a long-ish letter written by Harry LEVY to friends, whom I believe are probably the DOWNIE family of Murchison. [Harry LEVY had been in the employ of Charles DOWNIE. ] It mentions by name "Sarah, Flo, Theresia [sic], Charlie, Frank ... and 'mum' ".
Sarah, Flo (Florence) and Theresa were all daughters of Sarah Ann and Charles DOWNIE. "Mum" possibly refers to their mother, Sarah Ann ? .
~ Lu
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Link to Military Personnel File >
Harry LEVY - WW1 - 6/3379 - Army
http://archway.archives.govt.nz
[Note: In her post No. 6 on your other thread, "jorose" drew attention to the fact that the date of birth (1900) was possibly incorrect, as in a later part of the file, Henry LEVY is described as having the appearance of being "24 years and 9 months" of age. ]
[Note 2 : I tend to think that the letter written by Harry LEVY which appears in his Probate
File, is the work of a person born well before 1900. ]
~ Lu
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Hi Lu and everyone else!
Thanks for your replies. I have printed everything out and will have to spend some time sorting through all the info.
Will investigate the Maria Annie Levy nee Hedge connection but my Mary Levy was christened Maria Jane.
Re the birth of Henry James Levy in 1896 Mother Mary, father Robert Alexander Levy. I swear I found this in NZBDM's this morning but now I can't find it again.
It's time to clear my head!
Diggels
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Will investigate the Maria Annie Levy nee Hedge connection but my Mary Levy was christened Maria Jane.
Hi
.... you don't need to investigate further "Maria Annie LEVY, nee HEDGE". She was born in the South Island c. 1872 to Mary, nee DOUGHERTY and James HEDGE.
Maria Annie LEVY, the wife of Ralph LEVY, died at Auckland in 1907.
Her death notice is here >
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Auckland Star" - 20 February 1907 - page 12 - DEATHS
LEVY ... Anne Maria d/l/w/o Ralph ... aged 36 years.
~ Lu
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Re the birth of Henry James Levy in 1896 Mother Mary, father Robert Alexander Levy. I swear I found this in NZBDM's this morning but now I can't find it again.
Maybe it was this 1896 birth listed under CONNELL
1896/4362 - CONNELL, Alfred Henry - mother: Mary father: Robert Alexander
Regards
Beg
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Odd that you should mention this Beg, as I too, could swear I saw the birth entry for Henry James Levy (1896) on BDM this morning! ???
Minniehaha.
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Maybe it was this 1896 birth listed under CONNELL
1896/4362 - CONNELL, Alfred Henry - mother: Mary father: Robert Alexander
Birth of above Alfred Henry CONNELL was registered at Tokatoka (near Dargaville) - as was birth of at least one other of his siblings. Served WW1 - sadly K.I.A. - buried Belgium -- N.O.K. given as Mrs. M. CONNELL, Matamata. Father, Robert, of Matamata Commercial Hotel.
~ Lu
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Hello...
No real help (sorry) but I'm just wondering if the Mary CONNELL (http://tinyurl.com/p7lhcs3) (c.1869-1953) buried in Masterton has been eliminated from your search.
Her Will (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-27656-5893-45?cc=1865481) mentions a nephew, Michael Richard Martin WALLACE. His might be the 1912 Michael Richard WALLACE birth on BDM NZ, son of Richard and Annie WALLACE.
As Mary CONNELL is a spinster and Michael Richard Martin WALLACE is her nephew the implication is that Annie is Mary's sister. Your Maria (Maraia) doesn't have a sister called Annie plus I can't find the necessary Richard WALLACE to Annie CONNELL marriage.
So things aren't looking too promising.
Having said that, do you have any proof that your Maria didn't have a sister named or known as Annie.
And, of course, the Michael Richard Martin WALLACE mentioned in the Will may not be the Michael Richard WALLACE b.1912 mentioned on BDM NZ.
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As mentioned, the Will says that Mary CONNELL was a spinster. On that point, I've yet to be convinced that there was an actual LEVY to Maria CONNELL marriage.
Your original post mentions the baptism of Mary/Maria/Maraia in the parish records at St Mary's. Have the parish records also been searched for a LEVY/CONNELL marriage.
Likewise, would there be any synagogue records that could be searched. Not sure how to go about that.
Either way, by law the marriage would have had to have been registered and, as we've been pretty unsuccessful in finding a registration, the marriage either didn't happen or it didn't happen in NZ.
And before you mention spelling errors :) wildcard searching the NZSG Marriages CD should still find something but it hasn't.
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Like I said, no real help but what would be helpful is if you can, with certitude, eliminate this Mary CONNELL from your search.
Regards
Beg
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Hi Beg
Thanks for your input and "thinking outside the square".
There was no Annie Connell found in the parish records of St Mary's Wanganui, nor was the name Annie mentioned in Mary Jane Connell's will in 1900.
Like you, I'm beginning to wonder if the Levy/Connell marriage ever took place. Mary may have been unmarried but called herself Mrs Levy when she had son Henry. However, Mary Levy and son Henry Levy were named in Mary Jane's 1900 will. I haven't searched the church records for a Levy/Connell marriage as yet.
Interestingly Mary signed her name MARY CONNELL in a sworn affidavit 27/8/1900 regarding her mother's will,
Very strange. Diggels
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Hello...
No real help (sorry) but I'm just wondering if the Mary CONNELL (http://tinyurl.com/p7lhcs3) (c.1869-1953) buried in Masterton has been eliminated from your search.
Her Will (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-27656-5893-45?cc=1865481) mentions a nephew, Michael Richard Martin WALLACE. His might be the 1912 Michael Richard WALLACE birth on BDM NZ, son of Richard and Annie WALLACE.
As Mary CONNELL is a spinster and Michael Richard Martin WALLACE is her nephew the implication is that Annie is Mary's sister.
Eliminating the abovementioned Mary CONNELL :
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Wairarapa Age" - 1 June 1916 - page 5 - Personal
.... Mrs R. WALLACE of Bideford received news of the death of her brother, John CONNELL, of Clinton Police Station and formerly of Invercargill ....
Mr Michael CONNELL and Miss M. CONNELL of Masterton are brother and sister of the deceased.
Electoral
1911 / 1914 /1919 - Wairarapa roll
WALLACE - Richard - roadman
WALLACE - Annie - married ... residing at Bideford
1935 - Masterton roll
WALLACE - Richard - labourer
WALLACE - Annie - married
WALLACE - Michael Richard - carpenter
... residing at 102 Villa Street, Masterton
1928 - Masterton roll
CONNELL - Michael - labourer
CONNELL - Mary - spinster
... residing at 100 Villa Street, Masterton
~ Lu
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Interestingly Mary signed her name MARY CONNELL in a sworn affidavit 27/8/1900 regarding her mother's will, ....
Hi ... yes she did, but it was linked to the Will of her grandmother, Catherine MULLIN. ;)
Mary Jane Connell 1900 will on familysearch - with her childrens names to prevent looking for childrens names
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89SB-FS9Y-H
"whiteout" kindly provided the above ^ direct link to the Probate Record of Mary Jane CONNELL (1900).
Using that same link, the Probate record (with annexed Will) for Catherine MULLIN (1900) can be accessed by going back to Image # 223 (start).
[This was an unusal case of mother (Catherine MULLIN) and her daughter Mary Jane CONNELL dying within a couple of months of each other. Recorded on the Probate file of Catherine MULLIN, (died 13 March, 1900), it is stated >
"Mary Jane CONNELL died at Wanganui on 1st day of August 1900 without having extracted Probate of the said Will of the said Catherine MULLIN" : ]
I agree it is a little odd that Mary signed her name as 'surname' CONNELL ... on 27 August 1900 - with was after the death of her mother Mary Jane. In the Will of Mary Jane CONNELL (her mother), she was of course referred to as "Mary LEVY".
Have more to add to thread shortly.
~ Lu