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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Laois (Queens) => Topic started by: Cal59 on Sunday 13 September 15 05:49 BST (UK)
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Good afternoon,
I am searching for birth record of Albert Caldbeck born ballacolla queens county Ireland.
year of birth 1832 parents William & Anne Caldbeck. I do not have the maiden name for Anne nor middle names. I have no information on other siblings. According to Albert's marriage certificate his religion was protestant. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Kind regards, Sharon
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Hi Sharon and welcome to Rootschat! I have asked for a moderator to move this post to the Queens County (Laois) board! Sure there will be some assistance there for you.
Jeanne 😄
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
The information you are looking for is well before the start of civil registration in Ireland so you would have to start looking for church records but in order to do so you need to know where the family lived (parish if not actual townland) and their religion (although many church records from this period do not survive and of those that do not all are online)
When and where did Albert get married?
Where did you get the parents' names from?
A William Caldbeck of Ballacolla-cottage, Ballacolla, Abbeyleix died 20 Apr.1862 but his widow's name was Mary-
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014884/005014884_00211.pdf
A Mary Caldbeck, widow, of Ballacolla House died 12 Oct.1873- son Richard.
You can search further here-
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp
See also this topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=445042.0
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Does Albert's marriage (or death) certificate list father's occupation?
One to keep in mind-
Dublin Evening Mail, 18 Aug.1852: August 16, in Aghavo Church, by the Rev Richard Kennedy, William Hely, Esq., of Johnstown, county of Kilkenny, to Martha, second daughter of William Caldbeck, Esq., Clerk of the Peace, Ballacolla Cottage, Queen's County.
Looks like the William Caldbeck who died in 1862 was 95 years old-
CALDBECK, William; 95; Ballacolla Cottage LEX IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1862-4-23
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Thank you for your posts. The names of William & Anne's as Albert's parents had been obtained by Albert's death certificate. I do not have the birthplace, parish or actual town for William Caldbeck nor any info on his occupation. The information I have is on Albert Caldbeck's son's birth certificate [John Albert Caldbeck] which states his father Albert as being born in Queens County Ireland aged 26 at date of sons birth 1862. Albert's death certificate states he was 60 years in 1892. Conflict here on the date of his birth [between 1832 -1836]
An immigration record shows an Albert Caldbeck age 22 Ref: 1279 sailed from Liverpool on 12/12/1851 on board the 'Earl of Charelemont' arriving at Port Jackson NSW on 29/03/1852 from Liverpool.
Albert married Eliza Singleton in Sydney Australia in 1854.
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Hi Sharon,
Advertisement in 1874 in the Sydney Mail and NSW advertiser
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article162484300 (rightmost column under Missing Friends)
RICHARD CALDBECK, of Ballacolla, Queen's
County, Ireland, is anxious to hear from ALBERT
CALDBECK, formerly from the same place. His mother
having died, he will hear of something to his advantage if
he corresponds with above.
regards,
Ros
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Thank you Ros, I have seen this notice before & it turned out Richard's parents names were different. I thought we were on a winner too.
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The information I have is on Albert Caldbeck's son's birth certificate [John Albert Caldbeck] which states his father Albert as being born in Queens County Ireland aged 26 at date of sons birth 1862. Albert's death certificate states he was 60 years in 1892. Conflict here on the date of his birth [between 1832 -1836]
Is this your Albert?
1851c Piece: 1611 Folio:446 Page Number:44
Chatham Barracks, Kent England
Albert Caldbeck Private age 18 (1833) Queen'S Maryboro Ireland
I don't know if this might relate to your Caldbeck family
Caldbeck Ireland Landed Estate Court Files
1865 Probate Laois (Queen's), Ireland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCF5-DBX
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Good afternoon,
Thank you again for all the information you have researched.
In reply to the questions asked, no information had been given on either the Marriage or Death certificate of Albert Caldbeck in regard to William [his father] occupation.
As for the Chatham Barracks registration of an Albert Caldbeck I had found this information too and believe it to be my Albert.
I wonder if the information you have provided regarding a Mary Caldbeck if she may have been christened a Mary Ann & used her middle name as so many have been known to do in the past?
Regards,
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRGW-S4Q
Death index of an "Anne Calback"
(If all dates accurate this Anne would have been 50 approx when Albert was born :-\ )
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347
Link for Index Civil registration Ireland
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Just a few comments-
Albert's death certificate states he was 60 years in 1892. Conflict here on the date of his birth [between 1832 -1836]
4 years is not much of a difference, especially at a time when most people probably didn't know their exact date of birth. Even into the 1900s people's ages often varied more than 10 years between each census.
Thank you Ros, I have seen this notice before & it turned out Richard's parents names were different. I thought we were on a winner too.
Don't discount this too soon. There probably weren't that many Albert Caldbecks from Co. Laois in Australia at the time and the newspaper notice does not say that Richard is Albert's brother or even say how they might be related.
Death index of an "Anne Calback"
(If all dates accurate this Anne would have been 50 approx when Albert was born :-\ )
Easily possible to give birth at that age.
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Just in case this does tie in to Albert later...
wonder was Richard Caldbeck a half-brother?
Mary Caldbeck of Ballacolla House, widow, died 12 Oct.1873, granted to son Richard Caldbeck born c1794
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639367648
(fits with Australian newspaper notice posted earlier)
William Caldbeck, solicitor, of Ballacola Cottage died 20 Apr.1862 (widow Mary)
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639733477
Richard Caldbeck died 2 Oct.1893 born c1825
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639517679
Eaton Hely Caldbeck, retired captain, Ballacolla House, died 5 Apr.1908 Dublin, granted to Richard C. Caldbeck, electrical engineer born c1878
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639226725
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Richard Caldbeck getting married
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/f100b70527328
Tara
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Hi OP
What did Albert work at ?
The Ballacolla family were high profile and this William's children appear to have made 'good' marriages.
Was Albert in this same 'league' as it were ?
Tara
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IF your Albert was the Maryborough person this is a different scenario.
Maryborough had a high military presence so Albert may have been from a military family just passing through.
Have you looked for him in the UK ?
Tara
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William of Balacolla had a daughter called Anne
Here is her marriage
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/0b66f10525152
Tara
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William of Ballacolla had a daughter called Aphra who married in 1860 to a Robert Thompson Esq
Tara
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William of Ballacolla had a daughter called Deborah who married a Francis Lindsay Esq
Tara
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This chap might be worth looking into
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1223070237447
Tara