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Title: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Saturday 19 September 15 14:00 BST (UK)
I am sure that it was here that I saw a post which  gave a link to a website of deaths in coal mines.
I would be very grateful if someone could point me in the right direction.
Thank you
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 19 September 15 14:03 BST (UK)
This one any good ?

http://www.dmm.org.uk/mindex.htm

Sandra
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Saturday 19 September 15 14:19 BST (UK)
Sandra.
Thanks for your suggestion, but I am looking for a death in Merthyr Tydfil in the 1880s.  I did look when I first saw the post, I found the name I was looking for but I was not sure of the date of birth. I usually  bookmark useful pages but I can not see the web page in my bookmarks. Another senior moment!!!!
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 19 September 15 14:21 BST (UK)


http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/DisastersList.htm

Sandra
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 19 September 15 14:25 BST (UK)
Try http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/disasters/index.html

Stan
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 19 September 15 14:25 BST (UK)
or this one

http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/disasters/index.html

Sandra

added - snap  ;D
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Saturday 19 September 15 14:44 BST (UK)
Many thanks, it was not the site I saw but I did find a gentleman of the same name but not the ame birth year.  A negative result is better than no result.
Thank you very much
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 19 September 15 16:49 BST (UK)
Can you tell us who you are looking for ?

Sandra
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Saturday 19 September 15 17:32 BST (UK)
Evan Hughes born 1845 in Darowen Montgomeryshire.
Married Sarah Jones in 1870
1881 has the family in Llanbrynmair.
Sarah died in 1882.
Unable to find him in 1891.
Family story is that the children were farmed out and he went to work in the coal mines in South Wales and that he was killed in a mining accident.
The reason that I was homing in on Merthyr Tydfil was because I have found her cousin and family there on the 1891 census.
I have been looking for him off and on for years with no luck.
neno
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: sallyyorks on Sunday 27 September 15 12:38 BST (UK)
This one is the right dates and it is near Merthyr


(from the cmhrc website)
Name:HUGHES Evan
Age:38
Date:13/12/1884
Year:1884
Occupation:Sinker
Colliery:Harris? Navigation
Owner:Harris? Navigation Coal Co
Town:Treharris
County:Glamorgan
Notes:Killed in shaft 4 killed.
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Friday 02 October 15 22:00 BST (UK)
many thanks.
Nearest I have had for years, worth sending for death certificate.
This is the nearest one I can find on Freebmd.
But it is in the first quarter of 1885.
HUGHES    Evan    38    Merthyr T.    11a    361
Could there be a delay in registering the death as it was an accident?
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 03 October 15 08:06 BST (UK)
If an inquest was held, the death will be registered in the quarter when the inquest was completed. Particularly if there was an adjournment, this may be some time after the actual death and the entry may be in a later quarter than you anticipate. The coroner can authorise the burial before the inquest, but the death cannot be registered until after the inquest verdict

Stan
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: barryd on Saturday 03 October 15 09:15 BST (UK)
Not totally relevant to the Welsh accident but very useful for tracing Durham Mining Accidents is the Durham Mining Museum site:

http://www.dmm.org.uk/mindex.htm
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Saturday 03 October 15 09:51 BST (UK)
Thank you for taking the time to reply.  I am going to send for the death certificate in the hope of getting any information otherwise it will end up on the growing pile of wrong certificates.  Win some, loose some seems to be my luck with certificates.
neno
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: cath151 on Saturday 03 October 15 10:04 BST (UK)
According to newspaper reports the inquest was held 9th Jan 1885, unfortunately Evan and three others were killed when a rope broke when they were descending for work, only info gleaned about Evan Hughes was that he was married, had a family and was a member of the Permanent Relief Fund.

Cathy
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Saturday 03 October 15 13:54 BST (UK)
I have managed to find newspaper accounts of the two December inquests which were defered, but not the Jan one.
info from those accounts:
he was identified by his brother John.
He had four children. Both would fit with "my" Evan
But one account says
"His children are with his mother in Caernarvonshire, it is believed."
His children were with his mother but in Montgomeryshire
Will you please tell me where you found the account of the January index.
Thank you very much
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: cath151 on Sunday 04 October 15 08:02 BST (UK)
Hi,
Western Mail 9th Jan 1885 (available Findmypast)  Conclusion of the Coroners Inquiry, Treharris Mining Accident.
This account consists mainly of the evidence of John Dodds. There are no details or clues for  Evan Hughes in this account unfortunately.
Cathy
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 04 October 15 08:08 BST (UK)
Just to say that if you are searching the British Newspaper Archive you search for "Treharris Colliery Accident"

Stan
Title: Re: finding a recent post re deaths in coal mines
Post by: neno on Sunday 04 October 15 19:36 BST (UK)
Many thanks.  Found the Western Mail account.
Also found that John Hughes, Evan's brother, was in Merthyr Tydfil on the 1891 census.
I'll keep an open mind as to whether the Evan Hughes of the Treharris mining accident was my husband's ggrandfather.
Diolch yn fawr