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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: LisaRobinson87 on Sunday 20 September 15 15:42 BST (UK)
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I believe Isabella Foxton Married Robert Corner in 1874 in Whitby i have them on a possible census in 1881 in Whitby With a son Robert William Corner born abt 1876 states he was born in Hartlepool.
I can't locate the family after this but i have found a possible death for Robert Corner in 1884 and he was lost at sea just of the coast of Whitby, this seems to tie in as on the 1881 census it states he's a seaman. I've also managed to find a article on findmypast about it but it doesn't state he was married or had a child.
I was hoping someone would be kind enough to see if they can locate Isabella or Robert William Corner i've tried to search for both with no luck, i'm guessing Isabella could of remarried as she would of only been around 27.
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If they were in Whitby area have you investigated this possibility :-\
Marriage March qtr 1885
Bell William
Corner Isabella
Gaskin Elizabeth Ann
Showler Alfred
Whitby 9d 590
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This looks like the son's death:
Deaths June quarter 1937
Robert W Corner 60 Middlesbro' 9d 576
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Rosie i did see that one i looked at the census with both names but couldn't seem to locate a possible match for either in the censuses.
Chempat thanks for that it looks a good possible i just wonder why i can't seem to locate them after Robert death.
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If his Mother married again, he could have taken his new father's name during the censuses, then reverted to his birth name later on.
Death certificate to see if the informant is a relative, to give further clues?
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Following on from the death suggested I wonder if this is his marriage
Marriage Sep qtr 1908
CORNER Robert William
HAWKSBY Rose Ann
Middlesbro' 9d 1104
births after 1911 with mothers maiden name that matches ;)
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All seem very census shy!
Jennifer
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Anyone found Rose Ann's birth (or death?)
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It seems Elizabeth Gaskin married Wiliam Bell. I've looked under the name Showler but still nothing coming up, unless they emigrate ?
Jennifer
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Anyone found Rose Ann's birth (or death?)
A possibility for her in Hull, 1901:
Rose A Hawkesley 17 Daughter b Hull, Yorkshire
Parents: John 58 & Fanny 52,
Siblings: Beatrice E 15, Charles H 11, Arthur 9
Birth: Rosanna Hawksley, 1884, Hull, Jan-Mar, 9d/295
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Possible death ?
Rosaline Corner, 1927, Middlesbrough, Jan-Mar, 9d/930 age 41 :-\
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It looks like Robert Jr was placed in an orphanage:
Whitby Gazette 06 December 1884
The following DONATIONS have been received towards the relief of the widow of Robert Peacock who was lost in the fishing boat Flying Spray, in the storm off Whitby, on Saturday, 27th September, 1884:-
(list of donations totalling £25 3s)
And towards the expense of placing Robert Corner, the only child of Robert Corner, in the Hull Orphan Home
(list of donations totalling £10 16s 6d)
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the Isabella Corner who married Alfred Showler was the daughter of another Robert Corner, there's a marriage notice in the online newspapers.
I can't find a corresponding marriage, but this family has a couple of points that match, writing on the census not very clear
1891 28 High Dean St, Middlesbrough RG12/4009 folio 38 pg 27
Thomas Tunley head mar 34 engine driver b.Briley Hill, Staffs
Isabel wife 34 b Whitby, Yorks
Robert son 14 b. West Hartlepool, Durham
Lily dau 4 b. Middlesbrough
Thomas son 1 b. Skinygrove
death reg Thomas Tunley 34 june qtr 1893 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 349
1901 census Lily Tunley is in Stokesley, where the Foxton family are in some census years. Her birth cert would confirm mother's maiden name
Lily Tunley Middlesbro sept qtr 1887 vol 9d pg 522
There's a possible marriage june qtr 1899 for Isabella Corner to William Henry Smith Middlesbro vol 9d pg 1065 (the other 2 people on the page are together on the 1901 census) & then vaguely possible census
1901 21 Hutchinson St, Middlesbro RG13/4577 folio 107 pg 13
W H Smith head mar 51 mason's labourer b. Northampton
Isabella wife 48 b. Middlesbro
Chas son 11 b. Skiningrove
Thos son 10 b. Middlesbro
Gertie dau 8 b. Guisbrough
Thos W son mar 28 ironworker b. Middlesbro
Gib W grandson 7 b. Middlesbro
Thos John grandson 3 b. Middlesbro
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Hi All thanks for the reply's!
I did think she probably would of got married again, i'm unsure to as why her son would of been put in a home but then again some of her own siblings seemed to disappear when there mother died and they weren't with there father or any of the older siblings. I'm still unsure if Isabella's parents even married as no one has ever been able to find a DOB for her mother we're still not 100% sure what her maiden name is and yet we have certificates for some of the children and wedding certs where she is mentioned and her name differs!!
The family don't appear on any census till 1871 so there very census shy indeed yet they appear handfulls of times in the papers for wrong doings.
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Great work Osprey - the Isabel[la] with Thomas Tunley looks really good, and perhaps this is why there is no marriage to be found:
Daily Gazette for Middlesbrough 29 February 1884
This (Friday) morning at the Middlesbrough Police Court, before Mr C.J. Coleman (Stipendiary), Thomas Tunley was sent to gaol for a month with hard labour for deserting his wife and family and leaving them chargeable to the Middlesbrough Union.
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I can't seem to find the census you mentions with Lily on where she's in Stokesley? Can you tell me what Foxton's appear on there and maybe i could see if they fit in with mine
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Anyone found Rose Ann's birth (or death?)
A possibility for her in Hull, 1901:
Rose A Hawkesley 17 Daughter b Hull, Yorkshire
Parents: John 58 & Fanny 52,
Siblings: Beatrice E 15, Charles H 11, Arthur 9
Birth: Rosanna Hawksley, 1884, Hull, Jan-Mar, 9d/295
There is a baptism which does not match these entries :-\
Born 5 April 1889 and baptised on the 17th -Rose Ann Hawksby dtr of John & Sarah Ann (Dickinson) of 45 Station Street, Middlesbrough
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There's a marriage registered march qtr 1880 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 739 for Thomas Tunley which could account for the deserted wife. He married Harriet North & they're living with his parents in 1881. There's a death reg for Harriet Tunley aged 28 march qtr 1889 vol 9d pg 385.
1901 census for Lily
Hall Barns, Stokesley RG13/4593 folio 69 pg 9
Henry Dickens head mar 33 farmer b. Middleton on Leven
Alice Ann wife 38 b. Ellerbeck
Lillian Tunley 14 general servant b. Middlesbro
There is no Lillian Tunley registered, just the Lily from 1887.
She appears twice on the 1891 census, once with Isabella & once as Lily Tonley visiting a household that also has Margaret Foxton aged 21 b. Stokesley RG12/4002 folio 89 pg 38
1871 census West Row, Stokesley RG10/4859 folio 109 pg 19
William Foxton head mar 48 cartman b. Staithes
Elizabeth wife 38 b. Glasgow
William son 18 b. Staithes
John son 16 b. Stokesley
Isabella 13 b. Whitby
Mary A dau 11 b. Stokesley
Jane dau 8 b. Whitby
George son 6 b. Stokesley
Elizabeth dau 4 b. Stokesley
Joseph son 2 b. Stokesley
Margaret dau 3wks b. Stokesley
The Gertie Smith from the 1901 census appears to have been registered as
birth Gertrude Tunley march qtr 1893 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 514
death Gertrude Tunley 11 june qtr 1904 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 339
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Hi Everyone I'm liking the possibility of this Tunley connection when looking at my tree i already have Margaret on the 1891 census and Lily is there as a visitor age 4 but on the census i have she has been transcribed as Donley!!
And on the other census with Isabella it would seem that's my Robert as he's the correct age and the place of birth is what's listed on the other census, so i wonder why it was stated in the paper that he went to a home? Unless he did for a while and then when Isabella got married again he came back home? There also doesn't seem to appear a birth for a Robert Tunley which in this case is a good sign that this could be Robert. Thanks all so much for you're help
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Back to this! Can anyone please find Isabella on the 1901 census or a death or another marriage i can't seem to find anything. I haven't been able to find son Thomas Tunley on 1901 census either but have him on the 1911 also son Robert Willliam Corner/Tunley i can't find on the 1901 census i believe he married a Rose Hawksby in 1908 in Middlesbrough there are a few births after this the first been 1912 and in Middlesbrough but can't actually find the couple on the 1911 census either!
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I gave you Isabella in 1901 earlier with W H Smith
the Isabella Corner who married Alfred Showler was the daughter of another Robert Corner, there's a marriage notice in the online newspapers.
I can't find a corresponding marriage, but this family has a couple of points that match, writing on the census not very clear
1891 28 High Dean St, Middlesbrough RG12/4009 folio 38 pg 27
Thomas Tunley head mar 34 engine driver b.Briley Hill, Staffs
Isabel wife 34 b Whitby, Yorks
Robert son 14 b. West Hartlepool, Durham
Lily dau 4 b. Middlesbrough
Thomas son 1 b. Skinygrove
death reg Thomas Tunley 34 june qtr 1893 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 349
1901 census Lily Tunley is in Stokesley, where the Foxton family are in some census years. Her birth cert would confirm mother's maiden name
Lily Tunley Middlesbro sept qtr 1887 vol 9d pg 522
There's a possible marriage june qtr 1899 for Isabella Corner to William Henry Smith Middlesbro vol 9d pg 1065 (the other 2 people on the page are together on the 1901 census) & then vaguely possible census
1901 21 Hutchinson St, Middlesbro RG13/4577 folio 107 pg 13
W H Smith head mar 51 mason's labourer b. Northampton
Isabella wife 48 b. Middlesbro
Chas son 11 b. Skiningrove
Thos son 10 b. Middlesbro
Gertie dau 8 b. Guisbrough
Thos W son mar 28 ironworker b. Middlesbro
Gib W grandson 7 b. Middlesbro
Thos John grandson 3 b. Middlesbro
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I do apologise i must have been away with the fairies when re reading through last night! I'll look into that now!
I'm unsure if this is Isabella because if she got remarried her name should be Tunley Not Corner?
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the Isabel[la] with Thomas Tunley looks really good, and perhaps this is why there is no marriage to be found:
Daily Gazette for Middlesbrough 29 February 1884
This (Friday) morning at the Middlesbrough Police Court, before Mr C.J. Coleman (Stipendiary), Thomas Tunley was sent to gaol for a month with hard labour for deserting his wife and family and leaving them chargeable to the Middlesbrough Union.
But she didn't marry Thomas Tunley as he was married to someone else, so she was still Corner.
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Oh i think my brain must have took leave! Now to try find them on 1911 or deaths or another MARRIAGE! and of all the names Smith!
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Hi I’m very new to this family tree search -only just started looking. Rose Ann Hawkesby was my great grandmother and died in 1977 at the age of 86 years. She was married to Robert Corner who’s father was also Robert Corner who died when his fishing boat was lost just outside Whitby harbour. Rose Ann and Robert junior had 2 children Margaret my grandmother and Robert her brother.
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Hi Grace,
Robert Corner would of been my 1st cousin 3x removed i have researched his line further back if your interested? Do you know what happened to his mother Isabella?
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Hi Lisa, I would be very interested for any information you have on Robert Corner. I have been searching for days to find out what happened to his mother Isabella to no avail. My own dad remembers as a child visiting relatives in Whitby called Foxton, although he was very young and doesn’t remember any details. I’m thinking that as Isabella was young when she was widowed (27) she remarried and I wonder if this wasn’t Thomas Tunley. Mentioned in pervious post, on here. Son Robert William seems to have been given the name Tunley (1891 census) His age and Isabella's age certainly fit. He was certainly Corner when he married Rose Ann Hawksby my dad remembers visiting an auntie of his mothers in a street off Canon street Middlesbrough called aunt Lil, (? Lily Tunley) Dad also remembers the family story of Robert Corner drowning as the boat the Flying Spray sank just outside Whitby harbour.
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Hi Grace,
I have Robert been born around 1849 in Whitby he did indeed drown on the Flying Spray i haven't looked to much into his side of the family because its not my direct line.
Isabella i do believe lived with Thomas Tunley and had three more children it would seem that Thomas may have already had a family i remember finding a newspaper article about him leaving his first family!
Lily Tunley
1887–1950
Thomas Tunley
1890–1958
Gertrude Tunley
1893–1904
I think there is a possible 1901 census for Isabella and Gertrude but she is living with a man named Smith and after that i have been unable to find anything.
Isabella's side of the family are my brick wall i can't seem to get very far with any of them there Mother is the greatest hurdle because it doesn't seem that she and there father ever got married or if they did i haven't managed to find it.