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Title: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: Empem24 on Thursday 08 October 15 06:59 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to get in contact with anyone who is the descendant of Elizabeth McClure (1847-1919) and George Baldrick (1838-1922).  Their children name's were George McClure Baldrick, Letitia Elizabeth Baldrick, Thomas Harwood Baldrick, William Baldrick and David Baldrick.  I am a descendant of Elizabeth's brother David McClure, who moved to Australia in 1863.

It is a long shot, but the families corresponded, and from the letters we have from Elizabeth, photos were also exchange, of which we have none for our family.

It would be great if we could share and gain more information about the day to day life of our families.  Please contact me if you can help :)

Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 08 October 15 09:54 BST (UK)
1911 census says all 6 children were living although only George, Thomas, Letita & David shown with parents- which means that there's William & 1 other to be found in 1911.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Buncrana/Buncrana/491881

Only 5 children in household in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Buncranna/Ardaravan/1181108

Added- have managed to identify the 6 children and will post more shortly
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 08 October 15 11:17 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

LINK to Baldrick Grave  (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/donegal/photos/tombstones/donegal-buncrana/target2.html)

which states:
In Loving Memory Of | THOMAS H. BALDRICK | Who died 13th August 1916, | Aged 33 years. | Also his mother | ELIZABETH BALDRICK | Who died 4th May 1919, aged 73 years. | Also his father | GEORGE BALDRICK | Who died 22nd July 1922, aged 85 years. | And his sister | LETITIA ELIZABETH | Who died 12th March 1923, aged 38 years. | Also his brother | GEORGE McCLURE BALDRICK | Died 31st Dec. 1935, aged 54 years. | SARAH, | Daughter of above C. McR. BALDRICK | Died 18th March 1957, aged 35 years. | Also FRANCES MATILDA, | Wife of GEORGE McCLURE BALDRICK | Died 29th March 1968, aged 76 years. | And their son THOMAS H. BALDRICK | Died 28th April 2005, aged 76 years

George McClure Baldrick married Frances Matilda SMYTH - LINK (http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4d79a96509946)
Civil Reference 1917 Inishowen Q3 V2 P99

They had at least four children
Elizabeth McClure 1918
George Smyth 1920
Sarah Buchanan 1922 shown on above grave
Thomas H 1929 shown on above grave

and possibly
Joseph John 1918
David 1924
Robert A 1926 who died this year Link to his death notice with family members mentioned (http://rip.ie/showdn.php?dn=260848/Robert Alexander (aka; Bobby)BALDRICK/Letterkenny/Donegal)

edited to add
William BALDRICK married Sarah DOHERTY - LINK (http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/873dd76521083)
Civil reference: 1917 Inishowen Q1 V2 P127

Some of the children listed may be theirs!
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 08 October 15 11:32 BST (UK)
George McClure b. Sep 18 1881 m. 1917 d. Dec 31 1935
Thomas Harwood b. Apr 14 1883 d. Aug 13 1916 unmarried
Letitia Elizabeth b. Oct 24 1884 d. Mar 12 1923 unmarried
Sarah Anne b. Dec 18 1885 on 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Buncranna/Gransha/1181214/)
William b. Apr 27 1887 d. ?
David B. Feb 14 1889 d. ?
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 08 October 15 11:38 BST (UK)
This family has been so incredibly easy to trace using Google & Family Search that I'm really surprised that you haven't already been able to trace the family yourself (according to a post on another forum you've been looking since at least 2014 and at that time there were several descendants still alive).

George Baldrick (c1838-1922) m.(c1880) Elizabeth Mcclure (c1847-1919)
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/donegal/photos/tombstones/1headstones/buncrana.txt
1)   George McClure Baldrick (1881-1935) m.(1917) Frances Matilda Smyth (d.1968)- 7 children
        Birth 1881: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBW4-SY4
        Marriage 1917:  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYX7-BQ3
        1) Elizabeth McClure Baldrick (1918) m. Dempster? Birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBBR-FM9
        2) George Smyth Baldrick (1920) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB1C-V2W
        3) Letitia Baldrick birth  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F192-WY8
        4) Sarah Buchanan Baldrick (1922-1957) birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F192-WYD
        5) son (alive 2015)
        6) Robert Alexander Baldrick (1926-2015)
           birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1SJ-J68
           marriage 1953 Letterkenny https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTY3-BJH
           death 2015 http://rip.ie/showdn.php?dn=260848 (mentions a brother, children, etc.)
        7) Thomas Harwood Baldrick (1929-2005) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F13N-7Y9
2)   Thomas Harwood Baldrick (1883-1916)
        Birth 1883: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB4X-8J3
        ? 1912 to NY? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJTK-B6J
        Death 1916: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRKG-22Q
3)   Letitia Elizabeth Baldrick (1884-12 Mar.1923 L’derry?)
        Birth 1884: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBHH-W4X
4)   William Baldrick (26 Apr.1887 Buncrana-1963 NYC) m.(1917? Philadelphia) Florence Miller?
        1910- William in Philadelphia, to US 1908 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MG35-JK6
        William Baldrick m.1917 Philadelphia ? Miller https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JVH7-Y9X
        WWI draft William Baldrick born 26 Apr.1887 Buncrana https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6KM-46F
        1919 Naturalization card https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXFM-9WX
        1920- William Baldrick in Philadelphia with wife, to US 1902 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNMT-GW9
        1930 William Baldrick in Philadelphia to US 1908 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH7K-CLB
5)   David Baldrick (1889) (14 Feb.1889 Bauncranna-?21 May 1984 Victoria Bridge, Strabane, Co.Tyrone) ?m. Elizabeth & had family (5 sons)
        Birth 1889: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB8C-QM2
        1916 British Army WWI service record: Lisowen, Buncrana
and the 'missing' child- details from an online tree:
6)   Sarah Anne Baldrick (18 Dec.1885 Buncrana-15 Mar.1972 Calgary) to Canada 1907, married 1909, 5 children
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 08 October 15 13:00 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

LINK to Baldrick Grave  (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/donegal/photos/tombstones/donegal-buncrana/target2.html)

which states:
In Loving Memory Of | THOMAS H. BALDRICK | Who died 13th August 1916, | Aged 33 years. | Also his mother | ELIZABETH BALDRICK | Who died 4th May 1919, aged 73 years. | Also his father | GEORGE BALDRICK | Who died 22nd July 1922, aged 85 years. | And his sister | LETITIA ELIZABETH | Who died 12th March 1923, aged 38 years. | Also his brother | GEORGE McCLURE BALDRICK | Died 31st Dec. 1935, aged 54 years. | SARAH, | Daughter of above C. McR. BALDRICK | Died 18th March 1957, aged 35 years. | Also FRANCES MATILDA, | Wife of GEORGE McCLURE BALDRICK | Died 29th March 1968, aged 76 years. | And their son THOMAS H. BALDRICK | Died 28th April 2005, aged 76 years



lol

Had forgotten I'd taken those photos!!

Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 08 October 15 13:39 BST (UK)
lol

Had forgotten I'd taken those photos!!

Glad you did take the photo because there's a slight mis-transcription there  ;)
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 08 October 15 14:01 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

LINK to Baldrick Grave  (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/donegal/photos/tombstones/donegal-buncrana/target2.html)

which states:
In Loving Memory Of | THOMAS H. BALDRICK | Who died 13th August 1916, | Aged 33 years. | Also his mother | ELIZABETH BALDRICK | Who died 4th May 1919, aged 73 years. | Also his father | GEORGE BALDRICK | Who died 22nd July 1922, aged 85 years. | And his sister | LETITIA ELIZABETH | Who died 12th March 1923, aged 38 years. | Also his brother | GEORGE McCLURE BALDRICK | Died 31st Dec. 1935, aged 54 years. | SARAH, | Daughter of above C. McR. BALDRICK | Died 18th March 1957, aged 35 years. | Also FRANCES MATILDA, | Wife of GEORGE McCLURE BALDRICK | Died 29th March 1968, aged 76 years. | And their son THOMAS H. BALDRICK | Died 28th April 2005, aged 76 years



lol

Had forgotten I'd taken those photos!!

Thank you for doing so!  :)
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 08 October 15 14:37 BST (UK)
lol

Had forgotten I'd taken those photos!!

Glad you did take the photo because there's a slight mis-transcription there  ;)


Glad I didn't transcribe them.... hehehee
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: ChrisNina on Thursday 08 October 15 15:03 BST (UK)
lol
Had forgotten I'd taken those photos!!

Glad you did take the photo because there's a slight mis-transcription there  ;)

Glad I didn't transcribe them.... hehehee

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Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 08 October 15 18:33 BST (UK)
If there is a mis transcription for a headstone, please contact me to fix.

The error is easy to see in the transcription but can be compared to the photograph to verify  ;)
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: dathai on Thursday 08 October 15 22:28 BST (UK)
some Baldrick  Wills here including one for George Mclure Baldrick different date of death than headstone picture.
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: ChrisNina on Thursday 08 October 15 22:37 BST (UK)
some Baldrick  Wills here including one for George Mclure Baldrick different date of death than headstone picture.
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
Headstones are sometimes sources of wrong dates. They are done often well after the event and errors can occur.
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 08 October 15 22:40 BST (UK)
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp

Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: Empem24 on Wednesday 14 October 15 10:26 BST (UK)
This family has been so incredibly easy to trace using Google & Family Search that I'm really surprised that you haven't already been able to trace the family yourself (according to a post on another forum you've been looking since at least 2014 and at that time there were several descendants still alive).

Thanks for your help.  I'm glad you were able to find the information with such ease, but it is a lot harder to actually find a contact for a living member of the family, which is what I am trying to do, as I am hoping that photos that were swapped are still in existence.
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: Empem24 on Wednesday 14 October 15 10:28 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone!  I hope this might lead me one step closer to a living member of the family.
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 October 15 10:30 BST (UK)
Why not just write to Rector??
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 14 October 15 10:32 BST (UK)
You're welcome EmPem24
Best link to the living relatives are mentioned in recent death notice - LINK (http://rip.ie/showdn.php?dn=260848/Robert Alexander (aka; Bobby)BALDRICK/Letterkenny/Donegal)
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 October 15 10:36 BST (UK)
Very easy family to find....
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 14 October 15 10:45 BST (UK)
Hallmark
If you know how and have guidance - EmPem24 is new to the site and perhaps also to searching
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 October 15 10:55 BST (UK)
With the IGP g/stone photos and name of church they were easy to find.... plus the RIP posted.

Now all that's needed is a letter to Rector or to address named on RIP
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 October 15 11:15 BST (UK)
This family has been so incredibly easy to trace using Google & Family Search that I'm really surprised that you haven't already been able to trace the family yourself (according to a post on another forum you've been looking since at least 2014 and at that time there were several descendants still alive).

Thanks for your help.  I'm glad you were able to find the information with such ease, but it is a lot harder to actually find a contact for a living member of the family, which is what I am trying to do, as I am hoping that photos that were swapped are still in existence.

Irish research can be difficult... in this case it was easy, with all the details on g/stone plus the death announcement on RIP which gives you an address.

This is the g/stone photo which I can post, (as I own Copyright) so quite a bit of a Family tree for you.

One of the easier families to do for all concerned!

best of luck!
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: LilyE on Sunday 31 January 16 21:26 GMT (UK)
Hi,  Elizabeth McClure and George Baldrick were my great grandparents. William and Sarah were not on the 1911 Census as they had emigrated to Canada. Sarah to Calgary and William went on to Philadelphia USA. Sarah was in 1901 census as visiting cousins, James Porter in Gransha, Buncrana.  This was the son of Mary Ann McClure, David and Elizabeth's sister. Would love to hear from you. I am the granddaughter of George McClure Baldrick and daughter of Letitia.   I am new to rootschat but I have 1000's of names on my family tree.
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: LilyE on Monday 01 February 16 00:13 GMT (UK)
Some more info.  David McClure father was William McClure and his mother was Sarah McIlwaine. William's father was David McClure and his mother was Mary Jane. I don't know her maiden name. Sarah's father was William McIlwaine and her mother was Isabella. Again I don't have a maiden name.  The McClure's came from Ballnashannagh on the Fanad Peninsula near Portsalon, Co. Donegal.
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: JACK GEE on Sunday 07 February 16 10:50 GMT (UK)
Hello Empem24,
just changing tack a little - I also related to a David McClure - whose sons Samuel McClure went to Australia in 1869 and finished up thru Kilmore, Kaarimba, Seymour, Sunshine and Foster in Victoria.
These McClure were associated with Convoy, Magheranappin and Killynure[Wilson Fort]. There is a good chance that they also had some relationship with Cloghroe and have a connection to the Buchanan's. They are also said to have come from Ayrshire.
Firstly does any of your research replect this?
Secondly where in Australia did your David and his descendants end up?

Cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: Smccr on Tuesday 06 September 16 09:11 BST (UK)
Quote from: Lillink=topic=732466.msg5869169#msg5869169 date=1454275594
Hi,  Elizabeth McClure and George Baldrick were my great grandparents. William and Sarah were not on the 1911 Census as they had emigrated to Canada. Sarah to Calgary and William went on to Philadelphia USA. Sarah was in 1901 census as visiting cousins, James Porter in Gransha, Buncrana.  This was the son of Mary Ann McClure, David and Elizabeth's sister. Would love to hear from you. I am the granddaughter of George McClure Baldrick and daughter of Letitia.   I am new to rootschat but I have 1000's of names on my family tree.


Hello my name is Sally, I am empem's mum.  I am new to rootschat and not sure if I am doing this correctly...... You ARE related to us and I would love  to get more info. Etc. Where do you live? Are you in Ireland?
Cheers
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: Smccr on Tuesday 06 September 16 09:20 BST (UK)
Hello Empem24,
just changing tack a little - I also related to a David McClure - whose sons Samuel McClure went to Australia in 1869 and finished up thru Kilmore, Kaarimba, Seymour, Sunshine and Foster in Victoria.
These McClure were associated with Convoy, Magheranappin and Killynure[Wilson Fort]. There is a good chance that they also had some relationship with Cloghroe and have a connection to the Buchanan's. They are also said to have come from Ayrshire.
Firstly does any of your research replect this?
Secondly where in Australia did your David and his descendants end up?

Cheers
Jack Gee
Hello Empem24,
just changing tack a little - I also related to a David McClure - whose sons Samuel McClure went to Australia in 1869 and finished up thru Kilmore, Kaarimba, Seymour, Sunshine and Foster in Victoria.
These McClure were associated with Convoy, Magheranappin and Killynure[Wilson Fort]. There is a good chance that they also had some relationship with Cloghroe and have a connection to the Buchanan's. They are also said to have come from Ayrshire.
Firstly does any of your research replect this?
Secondly where in Australia did your David and his descendants end up?

Cheers
Jack Gee

Hello Jack Gee
I am Empem's mum, Sally. Our David McClure came to Melbourne and we are mostly in Victoria.  We may be related from way back..... We are on Ancestry.  Will see if I can find out more...... Cheers
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: JACK GEE on Tuesday 06 September 16 09:55 BST (UK)
Hello Sally and Empem,
happy to chat about McClures in Victoria or Donegal.

cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: Heather Ann dempster on Friday 04 August 17 21:55 BST (UK)
Hi my father in law is george McClure dempster his mother was Elizabeth McClure baldrick from buncrana in Ireland
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: Smccr on Friday 04 August 17 23:35 BST (UK)
Hello Heather
Thank you for your reply.
I visited Buncrana earlier this year and met relatives I have just found.
I need to get the family tree in front of me to check generations but I think your Elizabeth was my grandfather's first cousin.  It gets quite confusing as the same first names were used by all  branches of the family and passed down.
I have photos of the old farm house where my great grandfather David McClure lived before immigrating to Australia.
Are you still in Ireland? Does your family have any old photos? I have copies of some (including your husband's grandmother - I think) but none of my great grandfather.
Cheers
Sally

Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: LilyE on Saturday 05 August 17 12:09 BST (UK)
Hi Heather and SMCCR.  I am a cousin of George McClure Baldrick. David McClure was actually from High Carren, Ballynashannagh on the Fanad Peninsula. There were 5 siblings.  His father was William and his mother was Sarah McIlwaine. He was a brother of Elizabeth, my great grandmother. I don't know if he ever lived in Buncrana unless he stayed with Elizabeth for a while.  He had another sister Mary Ann who married a William Porter from Buncrana too. David's brother William also had a son called David and I think this David was wittness at my grandparents wedding. David had another sister Sarah who went to Australia and married a Robert Learmonth. She died in Boolte, Victoria. There were 10 children in that Learmonth family that I have recorded. His sister Isabella also went to Australia and married a George Robson.  I have not found out anything on this family.  I have 8 children recorded for David, 7 children for William, 6 for Elizabeth, and 9 for Mary Anne.
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: lstattfoy on Monday 25 June 18 18:37 BST (UK)
Hi - I am the great-granddaughter of Sarah Anne Baldrick (the 'missing' child that emigrated to Calgary, Canada).   I still reside in Calgary.   My mother is the daughter of Sarah's daughter Ethel Letitia Askew (born Calgary). 

6)   Sarah Anne Baldrick (18 Dec.1885 Buncrana-15 Mar.1972 Calgary) to Canada 1907, married 1909, 5 children
Title: Re: Buncrana - McClure/Baldrick
Post by: lstattfoy1 on Saturday 07 August 21 07:47 BST (UK)
Hi!  Sarah is my great grandmother.  She moved to Calgary Alberta.