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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Neli on Monday 12 October 15 00:28 BST (UK)
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Did anyone ever know or hear about anyone of the name Mundow? It is quite unusual and I am not having much luck finding out about the family.
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a few examples
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01g9z/
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Must be some still around as we had a priest of that name from Dublin in the 80s.
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Would you like some help
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This LINK (https://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm?fuseaction=variantlocations&Surname=Mundow) may prove useful
there were a good few in Dublin according to the electoral register
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Mundow listed on the census of ireland 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
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Mundow Family in the Dun Laoghaire (Kingstown) area once.(may still be in the area )
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http://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=13812782&pid=r&n=0&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&query=Mundow
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gb0/
Link with distribution of Mundow births 1864 - 1913
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347
Ireland civil registration Index BDM up to 1958 for Republic of Ireland
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I'm one! My father, William, is mentioned in the 1911 census referred to here. His father was also William born 1878 and he worked on Guinness Boats. I have found a record of a medal he was awarded at end of WW1. He , my grandfather , is buried in Deans Grange and I have visited his grave,
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http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=mundow&srch_forename=&srch_identityno=&srch_yob=&submit=Search
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Thats him alright. - I hadn't known his date of birth , thanks. He had a large family as can be seen from the 1911 census. My father isnt on it as he was born 1912. They lived in 35 Tivoli Terrace East, Dun Laoghaire. One brother went to UK - Robert. I have a picture of him and will upload when i dig it out.
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A twin
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG2S-CJY
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG2S-RXJ
other siblings
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gbk/
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possibly his mother 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Martins_Court/1320335/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Desmond_Avenue/91663/
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Elizabeth Smith and Robert Mundow married in Kingstown in 1871
see marriage 723 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633813#page/63/mode/1up
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Davemm - there is a photo of your grand dad on Findmypast.com, they have his CR10 Merchant Navy card, so the photo was taken as he signed up (probably in Liverpool) or you can get a much better quality version from Southampton Archives if you follow the Irishmariners link that Dathai posted earlier. It gives you the information for them to find the card and they charge £2 + £1.25 each for the colour prints (front and back)
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Thanks for that Hasta. I'd love to have a copy so will try and go there now.
Just found a William Mundow marriage to Anne Walsh 9th Feb 1839 in the Parish of St Mary in Dublin. I'll ask the cousin who is a priest where that is.
Found this 1930: my father bottom left ( Billy)
http://www.soccerintheboro.com/workmansclub-1950s.php
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Roberts brother James marrying Bridget Devitt ,June 24th 1877 no 973 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633813#page/83/mode/1up
son William
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG2S-DTL
son James
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGG5-YRX
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Kelly_s_Court/1319133/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Desmond_Avenue/91635/
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your dad's older brother Henry ? Bureau of Military History 1913 to 1921,Index to contributors
page 58
Henry J Mundow,Officer Fianna Eireann,Dun Laoghaire ,1921 to 1923
think its on C D
http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/files/The_Bureau_of_Military_History_1913-1921_Index_to_Contributo.pdf
edited to add must be this chap
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/deansgrange-st-patricks9/target75.html
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Possibly James son Patrick WW1
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_ps=60&_hb=tna&search=r&_q=MUNDOW
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Yes Henry was my fathers brother. I spent ages trying to find that grave in Deans Grange as I didnt realize he used the Gaelic !
I dont know who the Patrick is.
It looks like then that my grandfathers father was Robert Mundow.
We'll be able to draw a family tree soon !
Enc my fathers gravestone and also his father.
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My fathers father grave in Deansgrange...quite close to Henrys
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i see said the blindman
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Patrick_Street/1320699/
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Henry Colgan
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014894/005014894_00478.pdf
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Edward Colgan
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014893/005014893_00077.pdf
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A daughter Constance 1865
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F51J-RS6
possible death
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRPB-548
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http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-DUBLIN/2014-04/1398437604
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I dont get the Colgan connection? The link says its a Colgan and Window marriage?
I tidied up grandfathers grave recently and got a son included whose name was never added. I'll upload it now.
The 1901 Census is a branch of the family but its not part of my lot! I remember my father telling me there were two branches of the family. (Enc 1901 Census form also for this other branch. There is a William but the ages wouldn't tie in)
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Alice Colgan nee Smith sister to Robert Mundow's wife Elizabeth Smith
here she is with Roberts widow in 1911 as sister
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Desmond_Avenue/91663/
in 1901 your grandfather William Mundow is residing with her in Patrick St, his name has been transcribed as William Window however if you look at the actual census return form and zoom it up you will see that its William Mundow Nephew.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003745538/
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Thats amazing_ no doubt about it, thats him. I have applied for a copy of his Seamans Discharge book from Southampton. I'm going to start drawing a tree and put it up for your input and suggestions....or maybe you have started one?
My father told me also that he had a brother Christopher, who died aged 5 or 6 from TB.
I know also he had one or two sisters who were nuns and worked in Africa all their lives. I'll ask the priest (Henry's son). I also know that my father's mother's maiden name was Byrne ( I have her prayer book)
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Good news i found his marriage,bad news his wife's parents not listed.
William Mundow son of Robert Mundow and Elizabeth Smith of 77 Patrick Street married in Kingstown
November 24th 1901 to
Mary Jane Byrne of Northcote Avenue
wts James Cleary? and Elizabeth Mundow 77 Patrick Street
marriage no 364 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633817#page/69/mode/1up
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Mills_Street/94813/
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there are two Byrne families in Northcote Avenue in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Northcote_Avenue/1319266/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Northcote_Avenue/1319270/
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The marriage is registered though mistranscribed as Mundon
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1510216875327
or
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYCK-Q5S
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYC2-42Z
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William's twin sister now Elizabeth Crowe
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Mills_Street/94795/
14th Aug 1907 marriage no 646 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633817#page/92/mode/1up
John Crowe and family 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Tivoli_Road/1319543/
his birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5JT-M26
parents marriage
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/ecc8e70054354
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possible death for Elizabeth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTGM-JZW
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Catherine here with her mother born as Mary Catherine Mundow in Mulgrave St,on 10th July 1880
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Martins_Court/1320335/
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB7J-3J6
baptised in Kingstown 11 July as Mary Catherine MUNDO NO 484 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633815#page/36/mode/1up
sister Alice died 1895 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTZ1-NJH
sister Anna Maria died 1876 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRBB-K2N
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Christopher Mundow birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBYJ-T26
death
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR25-C6V
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your fathers baptism no 3032 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633818#page/172/mode/1up
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Robert Mundow son of William and Anne Mundow baptised 16th June 1844,Kingstown
2nd from bottom left hand page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633808#page/107/mode/1up
death
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTQC-B6R
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Robert's father William ?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTW1-M36
mother Anne
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR1T-5PG
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Elizabeth Mundow age 23 transcribed as Mundon in 1901 second from bottom of sheet
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Amiens_Street/1274171/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003681137/
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(apologies for not replying as I was abroad)...Thats fantastic stuff thanks very much. My father told me Christopher was "laid out" in a sailors suit on the dresser...
A journalist friend sent me this reliable site....there are 200,000 people in the world with the surname of Hitler in the world today- but only 155 Mundows!
http://forebears.io/surnames/mundow
What do you think of the locations?
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There is a monument at the beginning of the East Pier in Dun Laoghaire and on many walks with my father he always pointed out to me that we were related to the "Edward Crowe" on the monument.
On going back over the earlier posts, I realize now that Edward Crowe is the son of my grandfather's twin sister Elizabeth.
Pic enclosed.
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Sorry...he is Elizabeths husbands brother
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The full story its a shame that there is little info on Edward Crowe i looked for a baptism circa 1862 but could not find one.
http://www.dunlaoghaire-lifeboat.ie/index.php/Latest-News/detailed-historical-account-of-the-dublin-bay-lifeboat-disaster.html
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Cynthia Mulligan
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/relatives-honour-rescuers-lost-during-storm-of-the-century-29866910.html
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for the benefit of any Crowe relatives finding this topic
Patrick Joseph Crowe born 1868 Kingstown this cert says his fathers name is Patrick
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPYL-PQX
upon looking at his baptism no 2000 here his father is Garrett Crowe
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633812#page/139/mode/1up
marriage no 1706 here
4th October 1891 Patrick Crowe and Mary Forsythe
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633813#page/144/mode/1up
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Hanlons_Court/1320298/
Patrick is deceased by 1911 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRXT-13N
his widow and children
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Desmond_Avenue/91488/
his son Patrick born 13 Nov 1903
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/d88a591130584
see Deck Boy here
http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=crowe&srch_forename=&srch_identityno=&srch_yob=&submit=Search
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Found what i believe to be Edward's Baptism in 1863
first see explanation of name Garrett (click on did you mean Garrett (name?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_(name)
Edward 1863
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5a0d0b0348926
brother Michael 1861
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1dfec60348564
then on to Kingstown in 1865 where Anne was born 3rd March 1865
1126 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633812#page/81/mode/1up
possible death
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRPD-8T1
possible marriage for brother Michael to Mary Ryan 30 Jan 1888,Rathdown this marriage does not appear to be on the Kingstown microfilm to verify his parents names
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/cf53ca7182138
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Glasthule/Summerhill_Place/1321847/
his family 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/George_s_Street__Lower/91675/
Michael 1911
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ghv/
skipper on Kish Lightship
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000243825/
crew
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000243898/
edited to add ignore the death for Anne Crowe 1866 she appears to be alive on the Census with her father though her age is a bit off
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Tivoli_Road/98802/
Rowboat Annie owned or skippered by Garret Crowe
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000243830/
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3rd Paragraph here mentions that Patrick Crowe was also involved in the rescue 1895 and that he died 10 years later from Consumption caused by exposure.
http://www.inarchive.com/ie/d/dublin.ie/746095/2011-08-10-description/143/Kingstown_Lifeboat_Disaster_1895/
looks like the widow's and children got a rough deal
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Marriage 310 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633813#page/29/mode/1up
John Crowe married Sarah Byrne 27th December 1864 giving his parents as
John Crowe and Annie CANAVAN
children http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gj6/
1901 John Crowe born Wexford
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Tivoli_Avenue/1319521/
1911 Sarah with son Christopher
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/York_Road__Part_of/99501/
So i believe he is a brother of Garrett/Gerald Crowe born Wexford
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/ecc8e70054354
John and Sarah's son John https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5YC-9Q2
married Jane Kinsella 8th May 1892
marriage 738 here http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633813#page/147/mode/1up
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Mounttown_Road__Lower__Part_of/93649/
their son John James born 27 Aug 1893 1637 here
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633816#page/105/mode/1up
http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=crowe&srch_forename=john&srch_identityno=&srch_yob=&submit=Search
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John Crowe and Jane Kinsella had a daughter Jane Josephine born 13 Dec 1911
Registered Jan 1912
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBRM-1WT
died 1915
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRK7-WMS
Administration of estate to John J Crowe,seaman policy ? £42
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014919/005014919_00079.pdf
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Garrett Crowe jnr
birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBN-1J3
1913
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBL-6YN1
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Enclosed my Grandfathers Seaman's ID that I got today from Southampton as suggested - thanks for the tip.
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Wow, I forgot I posted this and never checked back!
The information is amazing, not my Mundows unfortunately but, I am sure they must have been related.
Thanks so much everyone, I'll start exploring a little more :-)
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There is quite a network of Mundows in the Dun Laoghaire area - Glasthule, Kingstown, Monktown in the records, all seem to be related. I am interested in this surname as it seems to be used interchangeably with Muldow, a surname I am definitely interested in. There is a Bernard Muldow who was a sailor who is also referred to as Mundow in records. My Muldows were in the Killiney area.