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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: earley-bird on Tuesday 13 October 15 22:18 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find the family of Sophia Charlotte Pollard, birth 1835 Lambeth or Chelsea.
I can find Henry Whitchurch and Sophia's Marriage 1d 382 1855 Lambeth but I cannot seem to find Sophia C Pollards family on the 1841 1851 or 1861 census on FindMyPast or freecen.
Sophia Fathers name is James and was born in Uckfield Sussex but that is all I have been able to find out . i've ordered the marriage cert but would like to find the family in the meantime
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Possible 1851 census i can't make out James Pollard's occupation but on Anc they show there marriage cert and it is the same thing on this census
Civil parish Newington
James Pollard 65
Ann Pollard 52
Charlotte J Pollard 16
George Pollard 14
Sarah E Pollard 11
Sorry i should of said that i thought that Sophia was using the name Charlotte
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Hi their is this family in 1841?
James Pollard 35 occ Instrument Maker Not born in county
Ann 40 Ditto
Edwin 15 Ditto
Henry 11
SOPHIA 7
George 4
Sarah 2
John Cross 25 Not born in county
Residing at Dorset Street, St Mary Newington, Surrey
Census Ref HO107/1065/ 6/39 / 26
Keyboard86
PS I see at the marriage of Sophia Charlotte Pollard her Father James had an occuption of Mathematical Instrument Maker?
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thank you both these are two records that I didn't see .
I have found a couple of references to Sophia Pollard born 1834 ?
One of which was an unmarried Mother living with another family .
I found another 1851 census record of a James Pollard 41 and Wife Sophia 40 Farmer living in Sussex.
one 11 Dau and 2x servants which could be her Parents I suppose.?
Also on 1841 census with Sarah Thos & Naomi living in Uckfield Sussex
I just cannot seem to find any reference to Sophia their Daugter which would confirm the parents and family
keyboard I've just noticed your reference to James's profession Instrument maker so that must be the correct family surely.
I wonder if I can find them earlier and later
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Hi are you following all Pollard familes, or the one shown by the two of us in 1841/51?
Keyboard86
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Hi the one in 1841/51 was baptised Sophia Charlotte Pollard 25th January 1835 Lambeth, St John the Evangelist Father James occ Mathematical Instrument Maker Mother Ann abode Cottage Place.
Keyboard86
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Hi are you following all Pollard familes, or the one shown by the two of us in 1841/51?
Keyboard86
yes I can see that the two familys you and Lisa have listed must be correct although I didn't see Sophia listed she has presumably been mistranscribed as Charlotte J
Thank you both for your lookups . I had to put my Father to bed in the middle of reading your posts and wasn't paying proper attention My apologies.
Thank you for all that information which I'll digest and record in my records
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I do Apologise for stating it again I'm half asleep!
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me too lol ::)
just noticed quite a discrepancy in James age !
He's aged 35 years between 1841 and 1851 and his Wife Ann 12 years ...
Thanks for all your help there are lots of leads for me to chase up tomorrow.
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: RG 9; Piece: 345; Folio: 6; Page: 7; 1861 census has James born in St James Middlesex ( which I believe is part of London ) and born c1806 same occupation as the census before . The 1851 census image looks like 45 for his age
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Hi James Pollard is on the census until 1881, he was born 26th January 1806 baptised 18th February 1806 Westminster, St James, Father Joseph Mother Sophia, his death looks to be 1889 Fulham aged 84.
The Edwin in 1841, was baptised Edwin James Pollard 27th August 1826 Westminster, St Martin in the fields Father James occ Mathematical Instrument Maker Mother Ann
An online tree suggests that the Henry in 1841, was born 27th September 1829 Surrey, as Henry George Pollard, married a Catherine Byrne 17th March 1857 Ballarat, Victoria, Australia and died 27th May 1919 Takaka, Nelson, New Zealand
EDIT the Henry baptism in 1835 shown by jan57 is shown as Henry George Pollard.
George Pollard marries an Eliza Pink March qtr 1871 Greenwich 1d 740
Sarah Ellen Pollard marries Albert Parkes occ Waiter 3rd May 1863 St Giles, Camberwell Grooms Father William Parkes occ Waiter Brides Father James Pollard occ Mathematical Instrument Maker
I can see Albert in 1871 with his parents, but no sign of Sarah E?
Keyboard86
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Henry Pollard
Baptism Date:
25 Jan 1835
James Pollard of Cottage Place
Ann Pollard
Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Henry and Sophia Charlotte were baptised the same day
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Hi,
My wifes family are descendants of Henry George pollard and Catherine Byrne in New Zealand. If you have managed to confirm that they are the right family , we will be happy to share whatever we have with you of what we know of them and their descendants. James Pollard and wife Ann are about as far back as we can confirm and only have basic knowledge of his siblings, but we are looking at James father being Joseph Pollard born in 1777.
Thanks
Darryl Taylor
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Hi Darryl
thank you for contacting me. This is exciting news .
Its midnight here and I'm off to bed but in the morning I'll collect together all the information that I have and we'll see what connections we can make.
I have just received the Marriage certificate of Sophia Charlotte Pollard with Henry Whitchurch (My Mothers Great Grandfather )25th Mar 1855 . Sophia's Father recorded as James Pollard mathematical instrument maker.
kind regards
Nick
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Hi all need some help, in 1881 Sarah E Parkes Widow aged 42 b Newington is with children Helena A 16 b Deptford and Albert E Parkes aged 4 months b Fulham
Residing at 4, Bective Road, Fulham, Sarah is living 3 doors away from her sister Sophia Charlotte Whitchurch nee Pollard Census ref RG11/71/21/20
Helena Ann Parkes married the son of Henry & Sophia C Whitchurch a Walter Whitchurch 3rd August 1884, the problem I need help on is Sarah E and Albert E Parkes post 1881, as I know Albert Edward Parkes married an Esther Henrietta Ware in Dec 1901 Fulham , where was he 1891/1901?
Keyboard86
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Hi keyboard, thank you for this extra research . You've uncovered so much its saved me weeks of fruitless searching. I'm very grateful .
i've just been out for a celebration lunch so I've not had a chance to put all this into my family tree so that I can make sense of it all. ;)
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;D Hi again, now figured out where Albert Edward Parkes was in 1891/1901, in fact he was not the son of Sarah Ellen perhaps, this is his marriage :-
Albert Edward Parkes 20 occ Labourer Father Albert Edward Parkes (Deceased) occ Not Known
Esther Henrietta Ware 21 Father Thomas Ware occ Railway Guard
Witnesses Frederick Pearson Florence Whitchurch
14th December 1901 St Andrew, West Kensington
Albert E residing at 40, Moolton Street?
1901 Census
Walter Whitchurch 37
Helena A 37
ALBERT E 19
Florence L 16
Walter H 15
Arthur G 13
Residing at 40, Mooltan Street Fulham
Census ref RG13/62/14/19
He is with family as Whitchurch in 1891
RG12/46/127/19
Keyboard86
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thank you for the last post there is such a lot for me to research but I seem to be straying a little from my current search goal which is my late Mothers Paternal line Whitchurch.
I wonder if you could find Henry Whitchurch Senior?
I do not have much information about Henry Whitchurch (senior) other than he was apparently a labourer and was diseased some time before his Son Henry Whitchurch (junior) marriage to Sophia Charlotte Pollard 24th Mar 1855
Henry Whitchurch junior was born 1925 in Aylesbury 1a 219 so presumably his Father and Mother must have been in that area prior to the Sons Birth and possibly married and lived there
Henry junior was a journeyman and showed up aged 15 at 15 Melton Place St Geo Southwark in the 1841 Census
If I can find his Father Henry seniors death I'll order the certificate and see what can be learnt from that.
Thank you for any help you can offer
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Hi again, remember this thread is re Sophia Charlotte Pollard, not Henry Whitchurch snr aged 25 b Aylesbury occ Book Binder in St Olave Southwark in 1851
Census ref HO107/2559/53/4
In 1841 Henry Whitchurch aged 15 Not born in county is an Apprentice Bookbinder
Census ref HO107/1084/ 5/14 / 20
Keyboard86
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thanks keyboard but that is Henry Junior who married Sophia Pollard . ;) I was trying to find a reference to his Father Henry
Its was a difficult call... I thought that as there were already quite a few references to the Whitchurches ie Henry junior the bookbinder it would be easier and less confusing to ask here about his father Henry rather than start a new thread where I would be repeating a lot of this information but I'm sure that you are right.
I'll start a new Whitchurch thread and link to this thread where appropriate.
Thanks again for your help
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Hi Nicholas . I wasnt able to reply to your rootschat email - it said I wasnt allowed to do private messages. If you email me on (*) I can send you related images and documents.
Darryl.
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Hi Darryl thank you for your message. I'm sorry that you are having difficulty contacting me . If you still cannot send a PM (private message) to me please post here on the thread to let me know and we'll find an alternative contact method .
Looking forward to hearing from you.
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Hi Darryl has only got to answer one more time and then he would have posted 3 times, at that stage he will be able to utilise the Private Messages
Keyboard86
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thanks for that keyboard ,its a pity that that wasn't made clear when his post was moderated . He may not have been aware of that .I have sent him two PMs ..will Darryl not be able to receive pms until he has made 3 posts either?
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Hi again, their have been many posts re this subject it is part of "How to use Rootschat " one more post will solve both your problems!
Keyboard86
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replying so i can pm.
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You should have been able to access the personal message system with a post count of 2.
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alls fine now thank you Dawn and keyboard.
Darryl and I have exchanged pms and email addresses .
What an amazing development and all thanks to the generosity of the many Rootschat members who give their time and energy to helping others locate their ancestors.
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;D If anyone could locate Sarah Ellen Clarke b c 1838 Newington death or otherwise after 1881 3 doors away from her sister Sophia Charlotte Whitchurch nee Pollard in Fulham, let me know! '
Keyboard86