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Title: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: raycarpenter on Thursday 15 October 15 23:23 BST (UK)
can anyone please help me find the marriage of william carpenter 1741-1824 ive seen on other tree's he married Elizabeth Ayris 1739-1820 but i cant find anything on ancestry.co.uk to back that up

Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: groom on Friday 16 October 15 00:00 BST (UK)
Possibly too late but FamilySearch have a different marriage for an Elizabeth Ayris

Name   William Toleton
Spouse's Name   Elizabeth Ayris
Event Date   23 May 1780
Event Place   Mixbury,Oxford

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2ZL-SMK
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 16 October 15 04:21 BST (UK)
Hi,

According to the source information and the entry you found on Anc..y; it refers to a marriage between Edward Hewlett, p, of South Leigh, w, & Elizabeth Ayris 13-10-1767;
Volume 4. Marriages and Banns Register [marked No. 5.] (Marriage)
Collection:   Oxford: - Register of Marriages, 1559-1837

William Carpenter is supposedly bapt. Nov 1741 South Leigh and Elizabeth Ayris bapt. 3-2-in Cogges but no year is listed.

It appears as if the entries have been corrupted between Hewlett, & Carpenter something that often happens on these public trees  I've noticed.

Alan
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: raycarpenter on Friday 16 October 15 06:03 BST (UK)
thank you for your replys
 :) :)

ray
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: NDRFT on Saturday 17 October 15 11:08 BST (UK)
Hi again

William Carpenter married Elizabeth Aris on 24 April 1764 at Cogges. He was a sojourner which fits with his baptism being a bit elusive.
I'll be back in a minute with any other info from the parish records which whilst not 100% accurate are more trustworthy than some of the info found on web sites.
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: NDRFT on Saturday 17 October 15 11:18 BST (UK)
Ok
The marriage is in St Marys Church, Cogges, Witney Parish Record's. It was after banns both signed with a x. She was otp and he was a sojourner. the witnesses were John Sparrow (he witnessed loads so was probably a verger) and Mary Sparrow.

There is a baptism for an Elizabeth Aris at the same church dated 22 July 1750. It was not illegal nor unusual for marriage at circa 14 - assuming she was baptised at or around birth. But she may have been entered in to the church as a young child and often that happened even when someone was an adult so don't be tempted to dismiss this out of hand.

The parents entered on  that day for Elizabeth are: William MOULDER and Elizabeth?

Later on 29 March 1752 there was a baptism of Hannah AYRIS to John MOULDER and Elizabeth?

So it begins to appear as if William and John Moulder may be the same man or brothers  = cozy !! and Elizabeth may have been ARIS or AYRIS and not married to the girls father / s.

More puzzle for you!!
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: raycarpenter on Saturday 17 October 15 14:24 BST (UK)
hello again good to hear from you :)

thank you NDRFT for your info gets confusing futher im going back :)
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: raycarpenter on Saturday 17 October 15 22:22 BST (UK)
is there a webpage on oxford military in the 1700s i was searching for wiliam carpenter 1689-1789 and found this on ancestry.co.uk it could be this william or his son or just someone else with same name

thanks (ray)
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: raycarpenter on Saturday 17 October 15 22:24 BST (UK)
Name:   William Carpenter
Poll Year:   1754
Hundred:   Binfield
County:   Oxfordshire

this is to that last post
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: yattonharry on Thursday 03 March 22 18:58 GMT (UK)
Obviously not expecting wills but OFHS Wills show two Carpenter Wills

CARPENTER   Simon   Bampton   Will   1741/42   1742
CARPENTER   Simon Sr   Bampton   Will   1728   1730

Always good to see where others of same name are living.
Title: Re: william carpenter 1741-1824
Post by: raycarpenter on Friday 04 March 22 22:27 GMT (UK)
yattonharry

thank you for your post