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John de la Chambre is stated to have been descended from John de la Chambre a nobille Normanne, who entred Englande in ye traine of Kinge Williamme ye Conquerrure
John de la Chambre = Elen dau of Lewis de la More
Henry Chambre = Jane dau of Walter Chambre of York
of Llewery Bleddyn Vychan
Joshua Chambre = Katherine Milo Chambre Lewis Chambre of Ellesmere
of Llewery dau of Edmund alias le Steward
Charlton of Powys in Scotia
Morgan Chambre = Anne dau Giles Francis Henry Gawenus Cicely
of Llewery of Henry Ferrers
Samuel Chambre = dau of Sir Thomas Newport
of Llewery, eldest son
of Morgan
Anthony Chambre = Anne dau of Peter Lacon
of Llewery
Hugh Chambre = Martha ? dau of George Ravenscroft of Co. Denbigh
of Plas Chambre, near Denbigh
William Chambre = Katherine of h. Jenkin Pigot
of Plas Chambre
Jenkin Chambre = dau of Kynaston
of Burlton, Salop 3rd son
of William Chambre of Plas Chambre
John Chambre = Cotton?
( 2nd son of Jenkin Chambre, of Burlton
purchased lands in Loppington )
He was of Wrockwardine, in Salop
Humphrey Chambre = Ann dau to William Barker
of Coulshurst co Salop or Coogage
John Chambre = Alice dau of Lankeshire?
Buried at Wrockwardine Buried at Wrockwardine
11 June 1633 21 July 1621
Richard Chambre = Anne Rogers (sister of John Rogers of Melverley)?
Buried at Wrockwardine
4 March 1638
Katherine Chambre = William Chettoe
mar. 24 Feb 1665 Wem
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https://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives/what-we-hold/pedigrees/
Pedigree from George or Joseph Morris Microfilm
Also in The Visitation of Shropshire, 1623
Mr. Freeth said he was unsure of some of this work, that my line was not reliable.
I have tried to compare from other family pedigrees.
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=R29WAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA400&lpg=PA400&dq=chambre+george+morris+pedigrees&source=bl&ots=d87Gh5dV5F&sig=XXr_MwP1XmSsNQC4YLlL7YrEu3A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBGoVChMIjIi7j8THyAIVyBs-Ch2mkwdT#v=onepage&q=chambre%20george%20morris%20pedigrees&f=false
County families of Denbighshire Page 405
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KxdVAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=William+chambre+of+burlton&source=bl&ots=rpxIxbHNhH&sig=5BCesiUZ_V_SscdWT9FpdX8C9lg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC4Q6AEwA2oVChMIyeXas5zJyAIVwbkUCh1X2grz#v=onepage&q=William%20chambre%20of%20burlton&f=false
Page 240 VAUGHAN, OF BURLTON HALL
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http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Wrockwardine.html
1621 July 21. Alice, wife of John Chambers ... bur.
1633 June 11. John Chambers, alias Milward, the elder ... bur.
The History of Wem by Rev. Samuel Garbet
https://archive.org/details/historywemandot00garbgoog
Page 239 The Noble Street
Two hundred years ago, Thomas Trentham, Esq. had a burgage here; next to him Arthur Millward alias Chamber, had two burgages on the same ground, which since belonged to Robert Hill, glover, and now to Robert Blakeway, barber.
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Chettall, Chetwall, Chitwall, Chittall, Chitto, Chetto, Chettoe, Chettow, Chetwood, Chettwood, Chetton & Chambers, Chambre alias Millward
John Chettall to Catherine Chambers both of this Parish
Mar. 24 Feb 1665 Prees
The History of Wem by Rev. Samuel Garbet
https://archive.org/details/historywemandot00garbgoog
Page 303 The Chettoes, or Chetwalls bore a great sway in this town, 1561; at the time of the survey John Chetwall was settled at the messuage now belonging to Mrs. Leighton.
Vol 4 Shropshire Militia and Volunteers
1539 Muster taken before Thomas Newport and Wm. Yonge at Newport 31 March 30 Henry VIII of the one part of the hundred of Bradford, Salop 1539
120 Wemme able men wthout harnesse
Roger Chetwall
136 Prese wth hambletis
Ric' Chetwall
Thomas jatwall
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Are you looking to confirm this information, or are you hoping to make contact with other Chambers researchers?
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Are you looking to confirm this information, or are you hoping to make contact with other Chambers researchers?
Yes to both your questions.
Richard and Arthur Chambre use the alias Millward. Would this be a family name?
Thanks.
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If you haven't already done so, a good way to make surname connections with other members is to enter your surname interests in the Surname Interests Table (SIT), and to check there whether others are researching these names.
This can be found at http://surname.rootschat.com/ , there is a link to it under "Your Tools" at the bottom of each Rootschat page.
The more people who enter their surnames, the more chance there will be of making a connection!
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Thanks for advice.
Chambre, has no matches. I usually do a name search by Google, with Rootschat added. But it is a good tool, that I have used.
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http://ukga.org/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?action=ViewRec&DB=13&bookID=197&page=97&submit=Next
The Visitation of Shropshire 1623
Chambers or Chambre of Petton Page 97
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gcd/
Records of Denbigh Chambre Pedigree Page 166
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Humphrey Chambre = Ann dau to William Barker
of Coulshurst co Salop or Coogage
Anne dau. of William Barker of Coulhurst & Joane dau. of Wm. Horne of Child's Ercall
http://www.robertsewell.ca/puleston.html#hornearms
Arms of Horne of Pikesley and Little Ercall
http://ukga.org/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?action=ViewRec&DB=13&bookID=197&page=260&submit=Previous
Visitation of Shropshire, 1623 Page 260
Horne of Pikesley and Little Ercall
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http://fabpedigree.com/s008/f108578.htm
Edward I (King) of ENGLAND mar. Eleanor of CASTILE (& Leon)
Joan of ACRE (Princess) of ENGLAND mar. Gilbert `the Red' de CLARE
Elizabeth DECLARE (de CLARE) mar. Theobald (2nd Lord) de VERDUN
Isabella de VERDUN (1318 - 1349) mar. Henry (de) FERRERS
Anne (de) FERRERS mar. Morgan CHAMBERS
Samuel CHAMBERS mar. Margery Newport dau. of Sir Thomas Newport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_de_Verdun,_Lady_Ferrers_of_Groby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ferrers,_2nd_Baron_Ferrers_of_Wem
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King of Gwynedd Mervyn Vrych King of Man = Elsyllt Essyllt Ethel Nest
slain 843 dau heir of Cadel Nest of Powys
Roderic Rhodri Rodri Mawr The Great 844-77 = Angharad dau of
Great King of Wales Gwgan ap Meuric King of Cardigan
Cadel Prince of Deheubarth of South Wales 907 = Rheinger dau of
Tudor Trevor Richard Earl of Hereford
Hywel or Howell Ddd King of all Wales 920-950 = Jane dau of Cader Earl of Cornwall
Ywain Prince of South Wales = Angharad dau heir of Llewelin ab Mervyn ab Rodri Mawr
Powis 987
Gronwy ( Grono ) = Edelffled dau of King of England or Jane dau of Edwyn D of Mercia
Edwin ah Granwy
Only son King of Tegengle Prince of Englefield = Ewerydd or Gwerydd dau of
lived at Northop 1041 slain 1073 Cynvyn ah Gwerystan sister of
Blethson Rhywallian Prince of Wales
Uchdred = Angharad dau of Rici Sayes ap Edneral who lived 1078
Meredydd = Eva dau of Cadwgan Vaughan Ld of Maesbrook
Ithel Gam =
Ithel Lilwydd 1190 =
Bleddyn 1225 =
Bleddyn Fychan ( Vychan ) =
Jane ferch Bleddyn Fychan = Henry Chambre of Llewery
I have looked for more evidence to prove how reliable this pedigree is. I can't find the source for my pedigree, which I found some years ago. I think it was from a microfilm of George or Joseph Morris Pedigrees at Shropshire Archives. Excuse my spelling due to the quality of the microfilm.
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http://ukga.org/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?action=ViewRec&DB=13&bookID=197&page=384&submit=Next
Page 384 The Visitation of Shropshire, 1623
Owen of Llunllo, Shrewsbury, Condover, Bettws, and Whitley.
Edwin ah Granwy
Only son King of Tegengle Prince of Englefield = Ewerydd or Gwerydd dau of
lived at Northop 1041 slain 1073 Cynvyn ah Gwerystan sister of
Blethson Rhywallian Prince of Wales
Uchdred = Angharad dau of Rici Sayes ap Edneral who lived 1078
Meredydd = Eva dau of Cadwgan Vaughan Ld of Maesbrook
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http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-RAVE-PEN-1350.html
RAVENSCROFT , a family associated with Hawarden parish, but hailing originally from Ravenscroft , Middlewich, Ches. ; the original line is represented in the 17th cent. by a family named Croxton . A younger branch appears in Wales for the first time in the 14th cent .; the present notice need begin only with HUGH DE RAVENSCROFT , who was steward of Hope and Hawarden and Mold in the middle of the 15th cent ., and m. Isabella Holland of Bretton in Hawarden parish. Passing over his son Henry (d. 1486 ) and his grandson Ralph Ravenscroft , we come to two of this Ralph 's sons, (I) George and (II) John .
(I) GEORGE RAVENSCROFT ‘of Bretton ’, Ralph 's eldest son, opens a line of squires who were prominent in Flintshire ; he was alive in 1517 , and his son THOMAS RAVENSCROFT was alive in 1547 . Thomas 's eldest son was GEORGE RAVENSCROFT , sheriff in 1578-9 , who d. in 1592 and is commemorated (like others of the family) in Hawarden church; he was Member of Parliament for his shire in 1563-7 ; his wife, Dorothy , was the heiress of John Davies , constable of Hawarden castle and owner of Broadlane hard by, which she brought into the family. ( Elizabeth , sister of George Ravenscroft , m. the lord chancellor Egerton whose romantic story is narrated in the D.N.B. ) Of George 's children, his daughter Katherine m. Robert Davies of Gwysaney (see under Davies-Cooke ), and three of his sons must be recorded:
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Hi,
I'm responding to your query about Millward being a surname.
It is.
My family are Millwards who were originally from Wrockwardine in Shropshire and we've found some links to the Wem area. These seem to point to the possibility of links to the Chambres but we've got no data earlier than the late 18th century.
Jon
Jon
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Hello Jon83,
Lots of Millwards in Shropshire.
Not sure why John Chambers (Chambre) used the Milward surname. Checked the Chambre Pedigree, cannot see any reference to Milward. It is a photocopy from microfilm so it is difficult to read.
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Wrockwardine.html
1621 July 21. Alice, wife of John Chambers ... bur.
1633 June 11. John Chambers, alias Milward, the elder ... bur.
The History of Wem by Rev. Samuel Garbet
https://archive.org/details/historywemandot00garbgoog
Page 239 The Noble Street
Two hundred years ago, Thomas Trentham, Esq. had a burgage here; next to him Arthur Millward alias Chamber, had two burgages on the same ground, which since belonged to Robert Hill, glover, and now to Robert Blakeway, barber.
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The Register of Preston Gobalds Leonard Chambre
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/PrestonGubbals.html#v0
Besides the persons and families already mentioned in the above account, there are several entries of interest in this Register. Thomas Wollascot, whose son Richard was baptized in 1583, was a son of John Wollascot of Wollascot in the adjoining parish of Albrighton, where the family were seated for generations. Roger Thornes gent. (1604) was of Leighton and married Margaret daughter of John Poole. Francis Kynaston Esq. (1612), afterwards Sir Francis (1619) was of Oteley and married Margaret daughter of Humphrey Lee of Lea Hall. Symon Mericke, who married (1620) Mrs. Margaret Clive, was of Maesbrook, and she was the daughter of Edward Clive of Walford. Leonard and George Chambre (bap. 1577, 1578) were sons of Leonard Chambre, who married Anne (Prince) widow of William Colfox of Meriden. Mr. Andrew Bowdler (1639) was son of Samuel Bowdler of Harlescott, and married Margaret daughter of Richard Hussey of Meriden. Pontesbury Owen gent. (1640) was of Eaton Mascott and son of Edward Owen of Adbrightley. Capt. Richard Young, who married (1647) Margaret Helinge (Heylin ?), was of Felton Butler, and was the younger son of John Yonge of Pimley. The Dorrington family, which occurs several times in the Register, were of Sillinghurst in Woore; Peter Dorrington married Isabel daughter of Ralph Clayton of Lea Hall. Mr. Edward Floyd of Leaton (bur. 1693) was Edward LLoyd of Leaton Hall, father of Edward, High Sheriff in 1727. Alethea wife of Capt. Andrew Corbett (bur. 1715) was daughter of Ralph Clayton of Lea Hall.
The Register of Preston Gobalds
The following entries, now lost, are taken from Geo. Morris' Register Extracts in Shrewsbury Free Library.
1560, Ap. 18. Edward, s. of John Williams ... bap.
" Ap. -. Margaret, d. of Adam Colfoxe ... bap.
1564, Sep. 21. Edward, s. of Mr. Edward Owen ... bap.
" Oct. 5. Richard, s. of William Colfoxe ... bap.
1570, Ap. 25. Robert and Thomas, ss. of John Lee
" Oct. 18. Elizabeth, d. of George Irelande ... bap.
1575, Oct. 5. Tymothie Edwards and Alse Colfoxe ... mar.
1377, Aug. 11. Leonard, s. of Leonard Chambers ... bap.
1578, Jan. 9. George, s. of Leonard Chambers ... bap.
1581, Feb. 25. Reignold Corbet and Margery Luter ... mar.
1583, Ap. 14. Richard, s. of Thomas Wollascot, gent. ... bap.
" Feb. 14. Wm. Tecka, clerk, and Ellen Drurye ... mar.
1585, July 2. Sara, d. of Harry Calcott ... bap.
1624 Oct. 1. George Chambre ... bur.
MERRINGTON (Meriton or Meriden) was a Domesday manor under another name; " the same Picot holds Gellidone " which was a manor of two hides. With Fitz it passed to the family of Gyros, and with the consent of Robert de Gyros the family of de Gulidon gave it to Haughmond Abbey. In 1279 the Abbot held the whole manor of Gulidon or Muridon. In the time of Henry VIII John Colfox held the manor by grant of the Abbot. His son Thomas by will devised Meriton Hall and two-thirds of the manor to his brother John, remainder to William (another brother), remainder to Nicholas (another brother). Adam Colfox, as elder brother of John and heir of Thomas, claimed against this, but the award upheld the will, and gave Adam the remaining third of the manor.
William Colfox of Meriton Hall married in 1564 Anne, daughter of John Prince, whose second husband was Leonard Chambers. Sarah, daughter and heir of William, married Thomas Corbett " of Caux," who according to a Newling MS. purchased the manor and hall from Colfox. In 1599 Thomas Corbett for £350 sold to Humphrey Lee of Langley the moiety of the manor of Myrryden and certain lands etc., except the capital messuage called Myrryden Hall then in the occupation of Anne Chambers, widow.
The other moiety remained with Thomas Corbett, whose daughter and heir brought an estate here to her husband Edward Muckleston (d. 1638), who sold some of her property in Meriton to Sir Humphrey Lee. The rest of it was inherited by his son John Muckleston, who died without issue in 1663 and left it to his brother Rowland, whose descendants owned it till 1817, when the Rev. John Fletcher Muckleston D.D. sold it, presumably to Sir Thomas Tyrrwhitt, who owned most of Meriton in 1822.
Edward Muckleston had another son Richard, father of Joseph Muckleston, who purchased property in Meriton from the daughters of Adam Colfox (d. 1664). This was doubtless the farm in Meriton owned by Robert Aglionby Slaney, representative of this branch of Muckleston, in 1851.
The family of Colfox entered their pedigree at the Heralds' Visitation of 1663. They had lived in the parish long previously, for William Colfoxe was assessed to Subsidy here in 1327. The family were resident in the parish as late as 1776.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jJFIAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA241&lpg=PA241&dq=leonard+chambre+married+anne+colfox&source=bl&ots=ysFREP3PDR&sig=A-uUP6b1vzpWrATI8cFasuejvAU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYgrvV7qfPAhWEL8AKHfHODKAQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=leonard%20chambre%20married%20anne%20colfox&f=false
Richard, of Petton in Shropshire, who m. Mary, daughter of Humphrey Hill, esq. Lord of the manor of Hill, in the 34th ELIZABETH, and had issue,
1. Arthur of Petton
2. George.
3. Francis.
4. Leonard, who m. Anne daughter of John Prynce, of Salop, relict of William Colfox.
5. Michael.
6. Gabriel.
7. Andrew.
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ivj/
Parliamentary Papers, House of Commons and Command, Volume 11
By Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons
CHAMBRE'S CHARITY. Page 332
Francis Chambre, by his Will, bearing date 26th December 1676, devised
a pasture ground, which he had lately purchased of Roger Hussey, situate in
Horton , in the parish of Wem, to his brother-in-law, William Chettoe, and his
heirs, he and they paying, as a rent-charge, the sum of 40s. yearly on Ascension-
day, to be disposed of either for the benefit and repairs of the chapel at Newtown,
or for the augmentation of the salary of the third schoolmaster at Wem, or to
both , at the discretion of his kinsman , George Chambre, of Loppington, and
the Rev. William Chettoe, and their respective heirs, for ever.
continued...
How can I find more information about Rev. William Chettoe? ???
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Person: Chambre, Richard (1707 - 1753)
Prob in VENN
Adm. pens. (age 17) at SIDNEY, Apr. 1, 1702. S. of John, gent. B. at Wolverley, Salop. School, Wem. ' Matric. 1705; B.A. 1705-6.
http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/CreatePersonFrames.jsp?PersonID=10338
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Person: Chambre, Richard (1707 - 1753)
Prob in VENN
Adm. pens. (age 17) at SIDNEY, Apr. 1, 1702. S. of John, gent. B. at Wolverley, Salop. School, Wem. ' Matric. 1705; B.A. 1705-6.
http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/CreatePersonFrames.jsp?PersonID=10338
Chambre, Alan (1794-1794)
Chambre, Charles (1712-1712)
Chambre, George (1551-1551)
Chambre, Jacob (1764-1765)
Chambre, John (1549-1549)
Chambre, Richard (1699-1700)
Chambre, Richard (1707-1753)
Chambre, Richard (1708-1712)
Chambre, Robert (1540-1540)
Chambre, Rowland (1752-1797)
Chambre, Thomas (1545-1545)
Chambre, Walter (1699-1728)
Chambre, William (1554-1558)
Chambres, Edward Chambres (1778-1817)
Chambres, Phillip Chambres (1815-1820)
Chambres, Richard Chambres (1815-1817)
Chambres, Robert Chambres (1817-1832)
Thanks mutchall.
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I don't know if this is of interest.
I have a tree of the descendants of Thomas Vaughan, 1720-1780, and Elizabeth Chambre, but mainly on account of Lowry, the wife of their son Thomas, 1766-1804.
Although I can't find any direct male descendants with the Vaughan surname, several use it as a middle or double-barrelled surname.
There are three books about Lowry's family, the first of which has references to her, disapproved of, marriage to Thomas and to their son, Robert Chambre Vaughan.
A Perfect Patriarch (Lowry's father) by M K W Cato
Old blood of Merioneth, also by M K W Cato
The following has just been published and has numerous trees which show ancestors common to Thomas and Lowry, but much further back in time. Lowry is only shown as one of five daugthers, and not mentioned by name.
http://nannauhistory.com/
Regards,
David
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I don't know if this is of interest.
I have a tree of the descendants of Thomas Vaughan, 1720-1780, and Elizabeth Chambre, but mainly on account of Lowry, the wife of their son Thomas, 1766-1804.
Although I can't find any direct male descendants with the Vaughan surname, several use it as a middle or double-barrelled surname.
There are three books about Lowry's family, the first of which has references to her, disapproved of, marriage to Thomas and to their son, Robert Chambre Vaughan.
A Perfect Patriarch (Lowry's father) by M K W Cato
Old blood of Merioneth, also by M K W Cato
The following has just been published and has numerous trees which show ancestors common to Thomas and Lowry, but much further back in time. Lowry is only shown as one of five daugthers, and not mentioned by name.
http://nannauhistory.com/
Regards,
David
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KxdVAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=William+chambre+of+burlton&source=bl&ots=rpxIxbHNhH&sig=5BCesiUZ_V_SscdWT9FpdX8C9lg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC4Q6AEwA2oVChMIyeXas5zJyAIVwbkUCh1X2grz#v=onepage&q=William%20chambre%20of%20burlton&f=false
Lowry Nanney they married 1795 daughter of William Wynn, esq. of Maes-y-neuadd, sheriff of Merionethshire in 1758.
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Yes, I know, but I wondered if her descendants were of interest.
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SAsLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=lowry+nanney&source=bl&ots=h6Vd_6O4zM&sig=fj2JcRYbKcqMcrgV-UlA1Ueyo-0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj54fnl_drQAhXB7oMKHUxtAGkQ6AEIQTAI#v=onepage&q=lowry%20nanney&f=false
The Mediæval History of Denbighshire: The Records of Denbigh and ..., Volume 1
By John Williams (of Wrexham, Wales.)
Page 167 Johannes de Chambre
Page 168 Thomas Vaughan of Burlton and Plas Thomas, Esq., who married Lowry Nanney, daughter of William Wynn, (Nanney,) Esq., of Maes-y-neuadd , Co. of Merioneth, by whom he had issue Robert Chambre Vaughan, Esq., the living inheritor of the estates of Burlton and Woodyate , married to Anna , daughter of the Hon. Edw. Massy:, issue, John Nanney Chambre Vaughan, eldest son and heir apparent.
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Hi all
Read this thread with interest. Have reached a dead end regarding the family of the wife of one of my relatives, John Trevor (d. 1493). He is down in the accounts I have seen as married to an Agnes (aka Anne or Annes) daughter of Peter (aka Piers, Purrs or Pierce) Cambre (aka Cambré, Cambrey, Camber or Cambrey) of Poole (aka Welshpool or Trallwng).
I had a mini breakthrough when I found the following in The History of the Princes, the Lord's Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog by J Lloyd: "John Trevor Hên, the second son of Iorwerth ab David, married Agnes, daughter and co-heiress of Pyers Cambrey ab Perkin Camber of Trallwng, ab Sir Roger Camber, Knt. The mother of Agnes was the daughter and heir to Cumus and heiress of Llys Main in Llaneurgain. This Pyers Cambrey had two other daughters, one married to Mr Blunt, and was mother to Sir Edward and Richard Blunt, Knts., and Peter and Thomas Blunt...The third daughter married Mr Hopton, and had issue Edward Henry and several others. Agnes...died in 1484...".
I thought I might then be able to link up these characters with those mentioned in this thread but to no avail.
Any help would be enormously appreciated.
Best
Adam
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Cambrey family.
https://archive.org/stream/visitationshrop00britgoog#page/n62/mode/2up/search/Cambrey Page 8
The visitation of Shropshire, taken in the year 1623
I thought I was related to the family of Cambrey or Jenks, looks like my line is in north Shropshire.
Sir Walter Collins of Stretton Knignt = Alice da. to Sr
Arms: two bars azurs. Wm Staunton.
Roger le Scott = Alice da. & coheire Cicely 2 da. & coheir Dorothy 3rd da. ux.
of Acton in com. of Sr Walter Collins ux. Walter Cambrey Jenkyns Cambrey of
Salop. Kt. of Stretton Woollarton
issue John Jenkyns Jenkes
of Woollarton.