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Title: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: JayTee on Sunday 18 October 15 18:45 BST (UK)
Any information on the following family would be appreciated.

William Kerr & Mary McCorquodale.  Both born in Scotland.  Known child is my great grandfather Matthew Kerr, b. 1883 in Scotland but moved to Canada with his wife Martha Clements (daughter of Christopher Clements & Rosina Malone)

Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 18 October 15 20:36 BST (UK)
Do you know whereabouts in Scotland Matthew was born?
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: Br1gau on Sunday 18 October 15 21:42 BST (UK)
Hi,

Christopher Clements & Rosina Malone were married 1880 in Greenock
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 18 October 15 22:31 BST (UK)
There is no 1891/1901 entry for Matthew matching the profile you have given
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: Br1gau on Sunday 18 October 15 22:47 BST (UK)
I can’t find anything conclusive for Matthew or his parents either.  From an on-line tree, Matthew Kerr married Martha Clements 25 Nov 1904 in New York.  http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ have her birth record, 1885 in Greenock.

Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: Br1gau on Sunday 18 October 15 23:55 BST (UK)
As there are no records showing on Scotland’s People for a William Kerr/Mary Mcorquodale marriage, or a likely birth for Matthew Kerr in England or Scotland, this record may be worth considering.  I could of course be totally wrong!  Perhaps put it on the back burner until there is more corroborating evidence. 

26 Sep 1883, Matthew Mcalone McCorkindale, illegitimate son of Mary McCorkindale, Farm Servant, was born at Parklee (Parklea) Farm by (can’t read) Parish of Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire.  The informant was Mary Mccorkindale, mother.  Registered 15 Oct 1883 at Kilmacolm
1883 MCCORKINDALE, MATTHEW MCALONE / M/ KILMACOLM/RENFREW 569/00 0060

Attaching the bit I can’t read!
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: orkrad on Monday 19 October 15 00:22 BST (UK)
Parklea Farm by Port-Glasgow P arish of Kilmalcolm


Regards Orkrad
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 19 October 15 15:16 BST (UK)
I can’t find anything conclusive for Matthew or his parents either.  From an on-line tree, Matthew Kerr married Martha Clements 25 Nov 1904 in New York. 

Looks like York, Ontario, Canada was mistaken as New York:  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZBR-YVY
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: anne_p on Monday 19 October 15 17:00 BST (UK)
1921 Census states he was a stone cutter who emigrated to Canada in 1904.

Based on this, he travelled to Canada in 1904 with 2 men named Hugh and William Denny.
All were listed as Masons from Renfrewshire.
(The Denny men can be found in Greenock until 1901 and later in Ohio)

It seems that Matthew died in the US around  1950 as there is a Social Security Claim under:
Matthew McCorquodale Kerr b  26 Sep 1883 in Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire, Scotland which matches with the info provided by Br1gau

Although his mother's name matches, this time, his father is listed as Matthew Kerr  ( it says William on his marriage)
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 19 October 15 18:05 BST (UK)
It seems that Matthew died in the US around  1950 as there is a Social Security Claim under:
Matthew McCorquodale Kerr b  26 Sep 1883 in Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire, Scotland which matches with the info provided by Br1gau

That says "Type of Claim: Original SSN", so it looks like Jan. 1950 was when he originally filed for a Social Security number.  No mention of a death claim is in that entry.
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 19 October 15 18:12 BST (UK)
It might also be worth noting that the first three digits of his Social Security number were 548, which indicates his number was issued in California.  See http://rwguide.rootsweb.ancestry.com/lesson10.htm for information about interpreting these numbers.
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: shellyesq on Thursday 29 October 15 16:06 GMT (UK)
It looks like Matthew's son Cecil Kerr also had a Social Security number issued in California before 1951:  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JGWJ-52F  His last residence was noted to be in Canada.

There is an entry for Cecil in the US records of aliens pre-examined in Canada.  The examination date appears to be 1948 or 1949.  It says "Fa Matthew Kerr" and gives an address for him in Toronto, Ont.  It looks like Cecil was going to visit friend A. Harold Lacroix, 344 E. Sparks St., Burbank, California.
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: osprey on Sunday 01 November 15 14:34 GMT (UK)
1901 census has Matthew with surname Wilson as stepson of Archibald Wilson at 7 Clune Brae, Port Glasgow
Archibald Wilson 41 stone mason b. Irvine, Ayrshire
Mary wife 37 b. Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Annie C dau 21 machinist canvas?
James son 19 stone mason
Nellie dau 17 17 flax weaver
Matthew stepson 17 stone mason b. Kilmacolm
Hugh C son 16 rivet heater
Andrew son 14
Archibald son 12
Agnes C dau 7
Katie M dau 2
Duncan Mc son 5 months
all born Port Glasgow unless noted otherwise

Archibald Wilson, widower, married Mary Kerr or Morgan, widow, 15 Oct 1897 in Port Glasgow. Mary gave her parents as George Kerr, carter, & Catherine ms McCorkindale.
Mary Kerr married James Morgan 5 Dec 1888 in Port Glasgow. 1891 census has James & Mary at Clune Brae Foot with son Matthew aged 8.

Mary's parents do not seem to have been married at the time of her birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQZ9-5Q7
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: Br1gau on Monday 02 November 15 22:37 GMT (UK)
Well done Osprey  :) saw that census return but confess to putting it in my "too hard" basket!  Perhaps Mary couldn't register Matthew's birth as Kerr without proof that her parents were married, therefore she used McCorkindale.

Also confusing are the different names given to Matthew's father -William or Matthew.  Now there's a George in the mix!
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 03 November 15 19:26 GMT (UK)
well, I did find Catherine with George on the 1891 & 1901 census, but they didn't marry until 4 Nov 1887.George was previously married to an Agnes Crawford.

1901 census George was aged 63, a carter and place of birth Campsie, Stirlingshire. Catherine also enumerated as 63, place of birth Lismore in Argyll.

I don't think proof would have been asked for, as the system was informant driven.

 ::)

Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: Br1gau on Tuesday 03 November 15 19:56 GMT (UK)
Ah, I knew that a child couldn’t be registered under the father’s name without proof or acknowledgement of paternity but I have also seen the parent’s marriage date recorded on post 1854 birth entries, so I wondered …

Catherine Kerr, widow of George Kerr died 8 July 1907 at Clune Brae, Port Glasgow of a cerebral haemorrhage, recorded age 60.  Her parents were Duncan McCorkindale, Farmer, and Mary Black, both deceased.  The informant was her son in law, Archibald Wilson
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 03 November 15 20:30 GMT (UK)
interesting, she gave her father's name as John, farmer, when she married, mother still Mary ms Black.
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 03 November 15 20:59 GMT (UK)
just spotted 7 year old Mary Kerr living with Catherine Corkindle aged 36 b. Oban? living in West Street, Paisley
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: Br1gau on Tuesday 03 November 15 22:45 GMT (UK)
A/try has transcribed that 1871 census as Catherine Carbradle aged 36, an Agrie Mard Labourer, born Olean  ???

Can't see a marriage for Mary Black and ? McCorkindale anywhere or a birth for Catherine
Title: Re: Kerr & McCorquodale
Post by: elaine447 on Wednesday 04 November 15 19:31 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=647845.msg4944464#msg4944464
Elaine