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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) => Topic started by: Mancunian194 on Thursday 22 October 15 20:10 BST (UK)
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Hi,
In my research of the Taylor family I have come across several addresses in Court Street, Haddington. These include:
- Cathries Close, Court Street
- 7, Court Street
- Clarke’s Entry, 7 Court Street
- Distillery Park, 7 Court Street
So I'm trying to understand the layout of Court St circa 1800-1850. Does anyone understand the layout of the street and/or have a free downloadable map of the area that I can use?
Regards,
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There are some photographs of that time in this book - Haddington Through Time
By Jack Gillon
https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=d1VpCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT13&dq=Court+Street,+Haddington&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAmoVChMI_aO4gOvWyAIVJRimCh1OgwOY#v=onepage&q=Court%20Street%2C%20Haddington&f=falseyou
To me the adresses you mention all look the same, perhaps with the same building being renamed?
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Thanks for the pointer to the book; some interesting pictures.
Regards
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Here you go
http://maps.nls.uk/townplans/haddington_1.html
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Hi,
Thanks but the map doesn't seem to show house numbers or names.
Regards
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No they don't show names in the 1850's.
Distillery Park might be the laneway to Brewery Park off court.
Is Peter Taylor the person you are asking about?
Don
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The issue of specific address and numbering is complicated :-\ To give you a flavour, this old post may help www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=618915.0
Monica
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I think the building that you are looking at is now a listed building. See www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-34255-victoria-inn-3-5-7-court-street-and-12-lo#.Viq1wSv-WYs
There is a current picture included there. I think this is likely the building showing on pg 3, behind the Tweeddale Memorial, included in the link included above by whiteout7. Don's links to maps will also help, as will looking at the Post Office Directories of the period that you are interested in.
Monica
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Thanks for the replies; I'll do a bit more research based on them.
Don - yes, Peter Taylor is one of the people I'm researching. Why?
Regards,
Simon.
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Your Peter held a small property and garden on Court and rented two others. I'll assume he was the local Gardiner.
This is from the 1855 Valuations, you can download the documents from Scot's People
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
1855 Tenant TAYLOR PETER GARDEN AND LAND FLORABANK HADDINGTON HADDINGTON BURGH VR37 / 1 / 35
1855 Tenant TAYLOR PETER LAND FLORABANK HADDINGTON HADDINGTON BURGH VR37 / 1 / 36
1855 Owner TAYLOR PETER GARDEN COURT STREET HADDINGTON HADDINGTON BURGH VR37 / 1 / 6
1855 Owner TAYLOR PETER HOUSE UNDER 10 POUND COURT STREET HADDINGTON HADDINGTON BURGH VR37 / 1 / 6
Don
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Hi,
Thanks for the valuations pointer. Unfortunately I don't have a ScotlandsPeople account - well I do but no credits on it; it seems an expensive business searching on that site as if you go off on a tangent or just browse it appears you can chew through the credits very quickly.
Regards
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Don,
Do the local libraries in Scotland give you free access to ScotlandsPeople? English libraries give free access to Ancestry and FindMyPast.
Regards
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It cost 1 Credit for those 4 Valuations entries...that's pretty reasonable.
There is also a Will for Peter:
62 TAYLOR PETER 11/07/1906 GARDNER, ST MARTIN'S GATE, NUNGATE, HADDINGTON, D. 01/06/1906 AT HADDINGTON, INTESTATE. HADDINGTON SHERIFF COURT SC40/40/34
This above cost nothing to view the entry however, the original document will cost you 10 Credits.
I guess it depends on what you want, for me I am only interested in obtaining copies of original documents so I use SP.
To the best of my knowledge Scotland's People is not offered as a free service in any library.
Don
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You are right, Don. There is no free access to SP through Libaries in general (such as Ancestry.com offer for example).
Simon, not sure where you are based. If you have a lot to look up, the Edinburgh and Glasgow genealogy centres, for example, let you look up from their terminals all the records on SP that are available, just for the cost of a day hire of a chair and terminal (c. £15 last time I looked).
You are talking to converted here on RC about SP. Lots of topics here on RC about SP and the use of...compared to access elsewhere in the uk ::) From Don's info above, looks like you have fairly specific searches that could be done.
Monica :)
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To the best of my knowledge Scotland's People is not offered as a free service in any library.
Don
That is correct Don although......................
Some libraries & possibly other places have vouchers (or similar) for SP which work out cheaper although I haven't used this system myself.
I may actually send SP an email to ask for a list of where these credits can be purchased.
Annie
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Hi Annie :)
This is a good explanation of the Library discount voucher system - www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/media/4259/aliscustomerinformationwebversion.pdf
Monica
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Hi Monica,
I seemed to have diverted this into an SP topic; sorry!
I live near Manchester and am used to free access to archives - Manchester Central Library has really good free access to its archives; you don't need to buy a chair. It's the same at Rochdale; just turn up. And Cheshire libraries have free access to Ancestry.com and Findmypast.com plus others.
From my limited knowledge of SP, it seems that it's costly unless you know precisely what you are after.
But perhaps we can close the SP part of this topic off ...
Regards
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Closed it is, you are in control. You are right, lots of other places to discuss the highs and lows of SP ::)
Monica :)
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Hi Simon, are you still researching Peter Taylor? He was my 3 times great grandfather. I am lucky that my grandmother Rachel Wilson nee Taylor passed on some photograph albums and one has a picture of a building and after putting it on a forum the suggestion maybe that it is a building in Haddington. I also have a lovely photograph of Peter if you would like a copy? Happy to share info on the Taylor's if you are interested?
Thanks
Anna
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Hi Anna,
Yes I'd be very interested in anything you have on the Taylor family. I have a wealth of information that I'm equally happy to share we you, and any other interested parties.
Regards
Simon.
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Hi Simon that would be great :) I have been in touch with a few branches of the Taylor family in Australia, New Zealand and the UK and have written up a summary which I have in PDF format which I will try and attach here. It would be great to cross reference it against the info that you have.
As I mentioned I was very fortunate to inherit 3 photo graph album from my great grandmother Rachel Wilson nee Taylor and I am working on trying to identify who lots of the individuals are. I have had some success by being in contact with the Australian and New Zealand branches who had the same photographs that I have :) I have recently been in touch with Glennys Smith in Australia, she is currently moving at the moment and so off line but she is descended from William Dunbar and Catherine Patterson (Ratchel/Rachel Dunbar's parents) daughter Annie who I didn't know about. I am happy to forward their contact information.
I have tried to attach the documents but they are too big - perhaps I could send them over by email?
Best wishes
Anna
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Hi Anna,
I've sent you a personnel message with an email address to use. Can you reply here if you don't get the message?
Regards