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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Lisa in California on Sunday 25 October 15 20:06 GMT (UK)
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I've been trying to find my husband's ancestor's sister (Jane), in hope of finding out more about their parents. Family information states:
Jane Flood, possibly born c1840 in County Clare or County Cavan, married a Billy Riley. They had the following children: John. Joseph. William. Catherine. Margaret. I don't know any birthplaces for Mr. Riley nor for the children, nor do I have dates of birth. :'(
We've (wonderful RootsChatters and I) searched extensively in Scotland for the marriage and births but cannot find the family nor can I find them on any Scottish census returns. We are wondering if Jane may have returned to Ireland at some point (possibly prior to her marriage to Mr. Riley)? Supposedly, Jane turned down an offer of marriage by one man, to marry Billy Riley. The other man married Jane's sister mid-1869, in Dundee, Scotland. I believe she married Mr. Riley/Reilly prior to her sister's marriage.
Jane's sister and husband used to send money back to Jane as she and her family were apparently not well-off. Any suggestions of where I may search for the family would be very appreciated. Thank you for reading this thread. Lisa
Lengthy thread about Jane's sister and husband:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703234.0
[I've posted several threads about the Tierneys :-[ - I'm hoping to eventually find Jane Flood Riley in Scotland or Ireland]
PS Jane may have also been known as Jean.
A marriage was found for a Jane Flood and William Raliegh but that occurred in 1870 in Limerick. [My husband's family believes she was married by 1869.]
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Hi There
Can you attach the link to where you've had previous help with Jane !
Thanks
Tara
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Hi Tara:
Thank you for your reply. The most recent link I've attached (I hope it works). I can gather all of the other links (I've been trying to think of every angle to find out more about the Tierney/Flood families). :-[
Thank you again for your interest. I will find the one thread that has all of the links listed.
PS I'll also find the page on the mentioned thread that has information about Jane.
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Copied from the thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703234.9
1851 Dundee Census
Bean Carty 61 (female) Lodging Housekeeper b. Ireland
John Carty 22
James Carty 18
Patrick Fergurson 19
Jean Fergurson 18
Peter Maughan 45
Nancy Maughan 30
John Flood 18 lodger, millworker b. Ireland
Margret Flood 16 lodger, millworker b. Ireland
Jean Flood 11 lodger, millworker b. Ireland
Helen Duncan 21
Flora Mcintosh 45
About two weeks ago, I received papers from a relative that state that Margaret Flood's sister was named Jane and apparently they had a brother as well. The above census could be for my husband's ancestor, Margaret and her siblings. Margaret was born in County Cavan or County Clare, c1834. Her parents were either Mark or James Flood and Jane Duffy.
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I can see that there has been a lot of work done on these branches and going off in different tangents.
Can I just start with which Flood person is your direct line ?
Tara
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I think the link I posted is actually the only one pertaining to Margaret's sister, Jane, as I just found out her name. (In the past, I was looking for Margaret and her husband's family.)
There is a chance that the John Flood above married a Mary Gilligan/Galligan in 1854 in Dundee, Scotland.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703234.36
Replies 43 and 44 (page 5) are summaries of findings with pages 6 and 7 having a bit more information. I apologize for the lengthy threads. :'(
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Hi Tara:
Margaret Flood is my husband's direct ancestor. I will summarize her information in a second - a lot of research has been done about her and I wouldn't want to duplicate any efforts.
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Hi
No, please don't type anything up.
My next question is, what were her parents names and what PROOF do you have re this ?
Tara
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Hi Tara:
A RootsChatter found a marriage document stating Margaret's father was Mark Flood (occupation wheelwright) and Jane Duffy. Both were deceased by the time of the Margaret's marriage.
I have a document:
...proclamation of banns married by ...witnesses were Michael Clarke and Elizabeth Flood. dated May 17 1869.
My husband's great aunt researched the family 20 to 40 years ago (I don't know when she started nor when she finished). I believe it is from her notes that state:
"...He met and married Margaret Flood whose parents were Jane Duffy/Duffie and James Flood."
This relative did travel to Ireland at one point to research.
(In 1870, Margaret and Patrick lived in New York with two Duffy women.)
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=434955.0
From Joy's post in 2010:
Patick Tierney and Margaret Flood were married 17 May 1869 according to the rites of the Roman Catholic Church. They were both of the same address - 22 Blackness st Dundee and were married at St Peters.
Margaret was a spinner in a jute mill spinster 35 yrs and Patrick was 31 yrs and some kind of labourer.
Patrick's parents were - Bernard Tierney and Mary m/s Clark both deceased.
Margaret's parents were - Mark Flood Wheelwright and Jane m/s Duffy both deceased.
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Is there any paperwork for this Mark Flood / Jane Duffy scenario ?
On something else then you said his name might have been James ???
Tara
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My husband's relative who did the research years ago has since passed away. I believe she was the only one in the family who researched. I don't know where she found the name James Flood.
I believe I was sent a copy of the certificate (that was two computers and one email address ago so I'm not too sure that I still have the copy). :'( I will look for it. Thank you for continuing with this topic, Tara.
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Hi Lisa
Nothing that I can see shows a Mark Flood / Jane Duffy scenario.
That's not to say there isn't one, just that I can't find it.
As you are dealing so far prior to Irish civil registration then it's always going to be tricky.
I'm always hesitant to even start to try and help without being fully confident that a person is working with the correct information.
Hopefully if you do track down the paperwork that states that this couple are the start of your Flood tree then get back to me and I will give it another try.
Best Of Luck
Tara
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Hi Tara:
Thank you very much for your time and trouble. I really appreciate it.
Apparently, the only document that I (now) have I obtained through one of the Scottish pay sites and it only references the couple, the date and their witnesses. There is no mention of parents. I will try to find out what document gives their parents' names.
I understand about wanting correct information. It's a long story, but basically, my family was mislead when we visited Ireland when I was a young teenager (we were looking for our ancestor's birthplace). I found out about 30 years later that we were given information about our ancestor's possible cousin or uncle, not about him. Now I am very careful about assuming things. Thank you, Tara.
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There is nothing worse than going down the wrong path.
We've all done it ;D
Tara
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So true!
Thank you, Tara. :)
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I know it's late in the UK...
I would love to know if you think I might be on the right track regarding my ancestor - he supposedly was born in County Fermanagh c1810. (I like your style of research.)
Perhaps, if you are familiar with that part of Ireland, if you might have extra time one day, I could give you brief details and you could let me know if you think I've found his correct parents? We've been searching for many years for this line, so anytime in 2015 or 2016 would work for me. ;D
If I am able to find out more about the Floods, I will add it here. Thank you, Lisa
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Have you had prior help on it here ?
If so, post the link to it !
OH and I'm in Ireland ;D
Tara
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Hi Tara:
I didn't want to assume that you are in Ireland. :)
I originally started the research on another site; I think I have posted a thread here as well. I will have a look around for it and will give you the link in a day or two. (I've already taken a lot of your time today.) ;)
Thank you very much, Tara!!