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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Radnorshire => Topic started by: Puffcat on Monday 26 October 15 22:41 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to identify the vicar or perpetual curate of Llanfihangel Rhydithon in the mid to late C19
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Welsh Newspapers Online is one rich source of information - I'd think that the Crockfords would help too and a few of those are on Ancestry now....
So far I have found:
1814 Alfred Barker
1833 William Lloyd
1841 Richard Pughe - Curate
1885 Arthur Wentworth Powell
1890 James Herbert Alexander Griffiths
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Thank you, without the names I struggle on the Census returns
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The records for the parish are on FindMyPast, I have extracted the information below from the baptism records.
D Lewis curate to 30 May 1851.
Then to July 1855 Richard Pugh Perp. Curate (Presume Peripatetic)
From 20 July 1856 to may 6 1876 – Edward Poole ma vicar or incumbent
One baptism 1877 W W Vaughan officiating minister.
Then 1878 Thos Geo Cree.
From 1880 to 1884 Lewis Arthur Smith MA Vicar
Colin
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Is Edward Poole on the Census ?
Ancestry have locked me out !
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1871
Edward Poole Head 64 1807 vicar Cheshire, England
Mary A Poole Wife 38 1833 - Herefordshire, England
Edward C Poole Son 8 1863 - Radnorshire, Wales
Jane Jones Servant 20 1851 - Radnorshire, Wales
EDWARD POOLE age 76 burial 30 July 1877 LLANFIHANGEL RHYDITHON
Colin
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Perp Curate is Perpetual Curate - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_curate
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Thank you, wonder if this was second wife or late marriage, was he living in the vicarage ?
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1851 Alvaston, Shardlow, Derbyshire
Edward Poole Head Unmarried 40 1811 Incumbent Of Alvaston & Bolton Stanley Moor, Middlesex,
Henritta Poole Sister Unmarried 46 1805 Landed Proprietor &c Stanley Moor, Middlesex
Hannah Poole Sister Unmarried 45 1806 Landed Proprietor &c Stanley Moor, Middlesex,
Charles G Anderson Nephew - 12 1839 Scholar At Home East Indies
1861 Old Hall Inn, Tynyberth, Llanfihangel, Knighton, Radnorshire
Edwrd R Pool Lodger Married 52 1809 Incumbent Of Llanfihangel & Llandenny... Middlesex
Mary Ann Pool Lodger Married 28 1833 - Herefordshire
1871 Cwm Gaist Cottage, Llanfihangel Rhydithon, Knighton, Radnorshire
So it looks like a late marriage. Edward baptised their son at , Llanfihangel Rhydithon.
Colin
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Thank you
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I am trying to trace back the Reverend Richard Pughe from his death in 1855, where was he living in 1841 and 1851, Llanfihangel Rhydithon or Llandewi in Radnorshire ? or Lampeter. He seems to have come from Lampeter but did he study for the Church there ?
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGD7-R2Q
This looks like him in 1851
Mike
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Lampeter wasn't founded until 1822, admitting its first students in 1827 - was this too late for Richard Pughe?
There are a couple of Richard Pughe records in Alumni Oxonienses who might be your man: if you know his age at death a cross-reference would be possible. Most likely one is Richard, son of Richard, clerk [= clerk in holy orders, so a family in the Church?], of Llanegryn, co Merioneth; matriculated March 1812, aged 19; Jesus College.
CCEDB has him appointed as Rector of Llanfihangel-yn-Gwynfa, with a BA degree, on 23rd July 1823. It says the Patron was the Bishop of St Asaph. The vacancy occurred because of the death of the previous Rector, James Hamer.
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it looks from the census that he was born in 1810, and he appears to have come from the Machynlleth area, where the name Pughe with the e is still around today. He married Mary Evans there in 1837, and in 1841 when he was appointed perpetual curate of Llanfihangel Rhydithon and Llandewi Ystradenny in Radnorshire it says he was coming from St David's Lampeter.
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Looks like I've found a different Rev Richard Pughe - why couldn't they all invest in unique middle names to help us?
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It does and the 'e' can be misleading. But the announcement of his appointment said from St Davids Lampeter, so that must be the college or its chapel after following you comments. Wher was he in 1841 I wonder?
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Hereford Journal 5th December 1855
Clergyman Suspended – In the Arches Court, on Thursday, the Rev Richard Pughe, incumbent of the perpetual curacy of Llanvihangel Rhydithon, Radnor, was suspended for five years from office and benefice, for drunkenness, fighting and profane swearing.
He died on 26th December 1855.
His wife had died on 1st January 1855.
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Yes, he was a naughty boy it seems, I wondered where he was in 1841, and where his 3 children were after the deaths of their parents.