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Title: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: dinkey on Thursday 05 November 15 13:57 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find the birth record of Mary Kinsella. She was the daughter of Andrew Kinsella, I would like to confirm her mother's name.

Mary married John Williams and had children Richard & Bridget Williams. In the 1901 census at address 25 Bewley Street New Ross she is shown as age 66 Widow living with daughter in law Bridget Williams wife of the above named son Richard. She gives her place of birth as Ballinacoola

If the age on the census is correct this puts Mary's year of birth about 1835. However, when Mary Kinsella married John Williams in 1871 she is shown as age 40 which makes her year of birth about 1831.

Can anyone help me find the birth of mary Kinsella.

regards

dinkey
 
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 05 November 15 14:06 GMT (UK)
For reference - Link to 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001288374/)
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: dinkey on Thursday 05 November 15 14:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks myluck

I have the details of mary Williams in the 1901 census. I think she died sometime in 1901 and I am currently waiting for her death certificate. Would like to find her birth record so that I can trace her parents and any siblings she may have had.

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 05 November 15 14:40 GMT (UK)
For reference - Link to 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001288374/)

Thanks.... saves others having to look it up!
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 05 November 15 14:43 GMT (UK)
Mary was 66, RC in Census so maybe look up registers??

registers.nli.ie
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: dinkey on Thursday 05 November 15 14:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for that link, I will take a look

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: dinkey on Friday 06 November 15 07:52 GMT (UK)
I have had a look on the link and it is asking for the parish. Can you tell me which parish Ballinacoola us in, should help to narrow my search.

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:11 GMT (UK)
Hi There

I'm presuming that it's Gorey but unfortunately their records don't go back that far !

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0596

Tara
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:14 GMT (UK)
An Andrew Kinsella in the area.

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/wexford/kilnahue.htm

What occupation did Mary give for her father on her marriage cert ?

Tara
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:24 GMT (UK)
Possible relations.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Kilnahue/Ballinacoola/1794898/

Might be worth following them up to see can you get leads that way.

Tara
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:27 GMT (UK)
This family might be worth following up on too.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Kilnahue/Lyrane/685642/

Tara
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: dinkey on Friday 06 November 15 12:35 GMT (UK)
Andrew is shown as a labourer.

I don't knnow Ireland at all but I presume the links you have given for Kinsella families are the correct parish for the family I am interested in.
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:36 GMT (UK)
Yes, they are !

Tara
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: dinkey on Friday 06 November 15 12:46 GMT (UK)
Tara

You are being very helpful. I am not going to find Mary's baptism then as you say the records do not go back that far.

I think more research is required for me to find who Andrew married and so would be Mary's mother.

Thanks

dinkey
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:48 GMT (UK)
There are a Margaret & James Kinsella listed in Ballinacoola (specifically) in the early 1870's, although how / if they are related I can't tell.

As you can see by the GV the surname was very common in the general area so it will be hard to work out connections and hence work backwards.

I can't see any Petty Session records for an Andrew Kinsella in the area, which might have helped.

There is this possible death

Andrew
Kinsella
Birth year    1814
Death year    1898
Registered quarter/year    Jan - Mar 1898
Registration district    Gorey
Volume    2
Page    712

Death certs don't always yield great results as it's not always ext of kin who registers the death.

Tara
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:49 GMT (UK)
Do you have the names of Mary's daughters in chronological order ?

Tara
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 06 November 15 12:58 GMT (UK)
Possibly no connection but thought I'd post anyway.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=498719.msg5167909#msg5167909

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gff/

Tara

Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: John Nangle on Wednesday 02 December 15 20:13 GMT (UK)
So that all possibilities be viewed there is a Ballinacoola in the Catholic Parish of Ballindaggin as well as Ballinacoola More and Beg in Castlebridge RC parish as well as the one that is being discussed which is in Craanford RC parish which was joined to Camolin Ballyoughter prior to 1845 and where the records are to be found
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: Summerhill on Saturday 05 December 15 20:03 GMT (UK)
There is also a Ballinacoola outside New Ross ,Co. Wexford. It is between New Ross and on the Enniscorthy Road. The nearest church would be Rathgarogue R.C. this is in the parish of Cushinstown. Cushinstown Parish registers are online . The diocese is Ferns. You can find them on www.nli.ie    . Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Mary Kinsella birth in Ballinacoola
Post by: dinkey on Sunday 06 December 15 07:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all the links. I will certainly look into them

regards

dinkey