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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: ozlady on Tuesday 10 November 15 06:09 GMT (UK)
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This is my first real attempt to track down an Irish immigrant, so I would really appreciate some advice as to where I should start. Dates are a bit vague but can be narrrowed down to about 17 years, between 1911 and 1928.
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Have you tried New York Passenger lists -
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1368704
US Census and other records are available for free here
https://familysearch.org/
If you let us have some details we can look for you ???
Sandra
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Ozlady- first you need to update your email address (see note under your username on your post.) If you've any problems with that then click on 'report to moderator' for help :)
We can't really give any advice without more details but since you've posted on U.S. board does that mean you are trying to track someone who left Ireland and went to America between 1911 and 1928?
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Update done!
Thanks for the info, I found him on the Passenger List.
Patrick Hagan (originally O'Hagan). Dep. Queenstown 10/11/14 on the Orduna, bound for New York. Listed as single, he had a wife and child in Carrigallen, Leitrim.
Not being familiar with US sites I had a bit of a look around and found a possible entry: 1940 Census Massachusetts, Ward 2, Somerville, Somerville City, Middlesex.
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Just an FYI - it helps to write out the month, because 10/11/14 is October 11, 1914 in my part of the world.
The passenger list says his last residence and place of birth was Rooskey, and his mother was Mrs. Annie Hagan, Moher, Rooskey, Co. Roscommon. Is that definitely your guy?
On the second page of the passenger list, it says he was going to join his sister Mary Hagan, 311 West 15th Street, New York.
If you have a date of birth for him, that might make him easier to find.
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Thanks for the info, I found him on the Passenger List.
Patrick Hagan (originally O'Hagan). Dep. Queenstown 10/11/14 on the Orduna, bound for New York. Listed as single, he had a wife and child in Carrigallen, Leitrim.
But is that him on that manifest?
Other details are age 21, born Booskey [sp?], mother Mrs. Annie Hagan of Moher, Rooskey, Co. Roscommon
Based on the comment about wife & child in Carrigallen I thought this looked more likely to be the Hagan family in 1901- and Patrick's age 20 there, with parents James & Catherine-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Carrigallen_West/Mullanadarragh/1476312
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Hello everyone, been away for quite a while, life gets in the way sometimes!
So, back to dear old Patrick Joseph O'Hagan! Born 1880/81? Married to Anna Maria (nee Reilly). I have the 1901 and 1911 Census for him. He left for the States when his son James Joseph (my husband's father) was very young and was never seen again. James Joseph received a fob watch from Patrick with the inscription "To J.J. from Daddy 1928". My FIL knew nothing about him.
The entry on the Passenger List for 10th Nov. 1914 is puzzling. The Patrick Hagan listed is "with" Eugene Reilly, John Reilly and Edward Minna, all from Carrigallen, which is a small place today, back then would have been even smaller, even counting the surrounding townlands. I think they might have been relatives.
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Is this him??
Name PATRICK HAGAN
Date of Birth 1880
Group Registration ID 8869382
SR District/Reg Area Mohill
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02850/2044460.pdf
Mother Catherine Reilly
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Is this him with Mother Margaret Reilly ??
You say you have census etc....
Why can't you post details?
Why can't you answer questions already asked?
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Gortermone/Drumderglin/658746/
Is this him with Mother Margaret Reilly ??
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The entry on the Passenger List for 10th Nov. 1914 is puzzling. The Patrick Hagan listed is "with" Eugene Reilly, John Reilly and Edward Minna, all from Carrigallen, which is a small place today, back then would have been even smaller, even counting the surrounding townlands. I think they might have been relatives.
I see Patrick Hagan listed below these folks on the New York Passenger List, but Patrick is age 21, which is pretty far off from a birth year of 1880/1881. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJ3H-1MR If you can get an exact or close to exact birth date for him, that might help.
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Yes, the poster has been informed a few times that the mother of this Patrick was Ann, not Catherine!
And as you say.... Patrick Hagan listed below these folks on the New York Passenger List, but Patrick is age 21, which is pretty far off from a birth year of 1880/1881
So, most probably a different Patrick!
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Based off this information:
Born 1880/81? Married to Anna Maria (nee Reilly). I have the 1901 and 1911 Census for him. He left for the States when his son James Joseph (my husband's father) was very young and was never seen again. James Joseph received a fob watch from Patrick with the inscription "To J.J. from Daddy 1928". My FIL knew nothing about him.
Here is the birth of the son which gives actual residence as Drumderglin (in district of Carrigallen)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01569/1632907.pdf
And the family in 1911 in Drumderglin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Gortermone/Drumderglin/658746/
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PTH-6FC?i=205&cc=1923888
- and here is a 1926 passenger list for a Patrick Hagan whose last residence was "Dromderglin"
wife, listed only as Mrs P Hagan, at home in Dromderglin, Canngallen (sp!), Leitrim, a cousin, Michael Kenny, of 136 Fisher Ave, White Plains, NY, as his contact in the US. Never previously in the US.
The closest I can find for him in the 1930 US census would be this man, listing himself as married but family not with him:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4R1-CSX