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Title: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS. COMPLETED
Post by: cando on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:09 GMT (UK)
Wonderful news.....always been free to search but had to pay to view results.  Progress.

http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/search+your+family+history/

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: majm on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:13 GMT (UK)
 :)

Another BDM index now free to search online.   Wonderful.   

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:14 GMT (UK)
With more information offered than NSW ;D
Mother's maiden name on births and deaths.

Sue
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: cando on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:19 GMT (UK)
And deaths to 1988...well only searched for my own rellies.

Cando
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: judb on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:24 GMT (UK)
Whoo-hoo!

Thanks, Cando for passing this on.

Judith
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: majm on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:34 GMT (UK)
And yes, loads more info on the index than NSW.   Including I must add ....  a heading "Sex" and for my couple of Vic births .... they have noted their sex as "unknown" 

My ancient, but alive and alert rellies, including the retired NSW BDM chap .... they are 'beside' themselves .... appreciating the index and trying hard to find a flaw.   They can only find the "unknown" response as a possible flaw.   So, I will defend Vic BDM and say "Well, if NSW were to have such a heading, would it have the staff on hand to go through all the historic NSW BDM records and determine, one by one, if the record shows the birth was for a male or for a female" .... and  ummm .... there must have been a line fault as the phone went dead on the STD call.   ::)  :P

Perhaps HE will join RChat .... it won't cost him any brass .... and he knows lots....

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:35 GMT (UK)
Brilliant! Great work Victoria BDM  :)
Thanks Cando for spreading the good news

cheers :)
cupoflife
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: majm on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:39 GMT (UK)
And you can even get births, deaths, marriages all at the same time !  just select all three.   ;D

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: cando on Wednesday 11 November 15 05:55 GMT (UK)
AND....events at sea on the other index ;D ;D ;D

Ah...they are making research so easy  ::) :P

I won't worry so much about my BDM discs failing now and will enjoy suggesting people do their own searching :P :P

Cando
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 11 November 15 06:11 GMT (UK)

Thanks Cando, great news.

Gerry
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: judb on Wednesday 11 November 15 06:14 GMT (UK)
Sex????

Well, if it is a birth there must have been some......................  :P  ::)  ;D  :D :o

(Not necessarily so these days, though)

Judith, apologising as she could not help but but up this post  :-[

Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Johnno_RC on Wednesday 11 November 15 06:32 GMT (UK)
Cando many thanks.

Have tried enquiries and got great results however saving the results as PDF files produces files with very small characters necessitating turning-up the magnification on my pdf readers. I used three different freeware PDF creators (actually pdf printer drivers) to create the pdf files so I assume it is a VIC BDM Registry issue.

Regards,
Johnno 
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 11 November 15 06:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you Cando!  :)

That has to be a worldwide first doesn't it? Making something free that you used to have to pay for?  :-\

I haven't looked into this yet, but before I do, in case anyone already knows ... why did they do this?  :)

Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 11 November 15 06:47 GMT (UK)

Did the fee for a downloaded certificate increase in price to counter the revenue lost with the search changes.

Gerry
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: cando on Wednesday 11 November 15 07:04 GMT (UK)
$24 cost for image has been in place for several months....?July.

Golly Johnno I've downloaded many images of Vic certs over the years.   Just increase the magnification.  Really no problem after all it is only one image on the page of the register you are interested in.

Cando
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 11 November 15 07:45 GMT (UK)
Brilliant! Great work Victoria BDM  :)
Thanks Cando for spreading the good news

cheers :)
cupoflife
Ditto

Thank you for the alert Cando :)
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 11 November 15 07:51 GMT (UK)
Just had a look at a couple. :)

Trying not to nitpick and ultimately if it isn't there it isn't there!! BUT - I was led to believe that the parents ages were put on the birth certificates - now as we are only seeing extracts I was still hoping  it would be shown - obviously not, or did I pick the one or two that aren't showing?
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: cando on Wednesday 11 November 15 08:10 GMT (UK)
Only an index...if you wish to see the complete certificate you need to purchase an image ;D.

Cando  ;D
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 11 November 15 08:24 GMT (UK)
Thought so :(

:D
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: warncoort on Wednesday 11 November 15 08:30 GMT (UK)
I just did a quick search for my father,ticked all three events as suggested by JM,only his death showed up but abbreviation of given names was commonly used in indices so you need to do a secondary search before calling it quits.
As Cando says,will save wear on discs.
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 11 November 15 20:47 GMT (UK)
Oops I misunderstood. I thought all of the information from the certificates was viewable online.  :-[

Thought that was too good to be true.  ::)
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Beth42 on Wednesday 11 November 15 20:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks for alerting me to the VICBDM Index now online - it is so much better now - so I ordered and downloaded a certificate just to test it out - very simple.
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Voltaire1694 on Thursday 12 November 15 01:44 GMT (UK)
Great news.  I wish I had known this two weeks ago.  I paid for 24 index pages (at 99c each) using a particular surname hunting for possible relies.  :'(
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Voltaire1694 on Thursday 12 November 15 01:54 GMT (UK)
I wonder though if they might raise the price of images as a result? I always speculated that the relatively low price for images ($25, used to be $20) was because they were charging for index searches?  NSW is $31 and SA $45 (admittedly these are certified copies, rather than just images).
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: sarra on Thursday 12 November 15 02:29 GMT (UK)
Cando,
Thanks for alerting us to this update. Yes it will certainly save your discs from anymore wear.
What will you do now......housework. ;D ;D
I'm hoping they keep adding more years to the death records, if they do I maybe able to find my OH elusive uncle's death.

Sarra
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: Raylen on Thursday 12 November 15 03:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks cando for the news  :)

My little gripe might be that you don't seem to get the place of birth on
the marriages like we have on the discs.  Am I missing something?

But still very happy with what we have got  ;D

Raylen
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: cando on Thursday 12 November 15 03:41 GMT (UK)
A few shortcomings....

No places of birth on marriage index.

Can't search with parents' names or places of birth/death.

Can't search with mother's maiden name only.

Always the same....if something works well then make it more cumbersome.  What a procedure to purchase an image ::) ::)......I resent being asked for my name and residential address and email address.  Only name was required on the old system and email address and phone number an option.  I only put a name :-X :-X.   I can't see a facility to collect an image at a later date as was available previously.  I don't need any certs so I have no need to use the new facility.

I think I'll keep on using my discs.  However a good resource for those who don't have them.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: VICTORIA BDM INDEX - NEW SERVICE - FREE TO SEARCH AND VIEW RESULTS
Post by: cando on Thursday 12 November 15 03:51 GMT (UK)
I wonder though if they might raise the price of images as a result? I always speculated that the relatively low price for images ($25, used to be $20) was because they were charging for index searches?  NSW is $31 and SA $45 (admittedly these are certified copies, rather than just images).

Images were raised to $24 in ?July.  I doubt the $20 and $17.50 charged in past years were because of the index searches.  So many people have discs/fiche and they are available at libraries, genealogy centres, online subscription websites or one could request lookups at one of the many online family history forums.  If you wanted to purchase an image you only need the surname, event, registration number and year so why would you search the index for .99.

In NSW and SA you can obtain transcriptions so why purchase certified certificates.

I'm going to mark this topic as completed as I don't feel it is needed any longer and I ask a mod to move it to the Resources and Offers Board for Victoria.

Cheers
Cando