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Title: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Mollyrobz on Thursday 12 November 15 12:37 GMT (UK)
Please help me find info on John Nicol and Ann Mcdonald. As with my last post I'm very limited to the information that I have on them which of course, makes it rather difficult to find anything out!

All I know of is that one of their sons William Nicol had them named on his death cert. He was born roughly 1810 in Perth. He married Mary Ballingall in 1830 and then Jean Kay some years later
Molly
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 12 November 15 13:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Molly,

What were the names of William's siblings please?

Annie
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 12 November 15 13:26 GMT (UK)
Molly,

Some info. here including their marriage....

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gh1/

Annie
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 12 November 15 13:32 GMT (UK)
Interestingly, I have a McDonald connection from Perth.

Alexander McDonald b c 1809 Perth = Catherine Steedman b c 1808 Orwell, Kinross married 1834 Kirkcaldy, Fife  :-\ I don't have Alexander's parents as his son was only an in-law.

Their son John Alexander b 1846 Ceres, Fife married my 2 x g grandaunt 1873 Newcastle, Northumberland.

Annie
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: ev on Thursday 12 November 15 13:33 GMT (UK)
Hi ,

Does the death cert. give an occupation for John Nicol ?

Have you tried here -
http://www.pkc.gov.uk/article/3887/Perth-burgh-burial-registers-1794-1855



ev
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Mollyrobz on Thursday 12 November 15 14:29 GMT (UK)
Hello Annie,
You could be a possible relation, it really is a small world isn't it  :)

Hello Ev,
Thank you for the link, John Nicols occupation according to his son Williams death cert was 'Grocer'
Molly
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: ev on Thursday 12 November 15 14:56 GMT (UK)
There is a death for a John Nicol grocer in 1849 , age 62.
Address given as South Street.



ev
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: ev on Thursday 12 November 15 15:03 GMT (UK)
1841 FreeCen has John Nicol 50 grocer and Ann Nicol 55 in South Street , Perth.



ev
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Mollyrobz on Thursday 12 November 15 16:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you Ev,
I hate seeing dates for things before 1855  :) how so you find out mothers surnames and things pre 1855? The certificates that I've bought in the past that are pre 1855 all tend to be pretty limited with the info that they give out. Bit off topic but I just thought I'd ask
Molly
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: ev on Thursday 12 November 15 16:46 GMT (UK)
It is difficult to find further information before the 1841 Census.

SP has a death for an Ann Nicol(other surname McDonald) 1879 Perth , Perth , born c1794.

A bit out on the age given on the 1841 Census transcription but it might be worth a look.



ev
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 12 December 15 00:08 GMT (UK)
Looks like John & Ann's marriage

Tibbermore, Perth 1808

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY3G-FMZ

Perth

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY3J-P5D

Both would have been from different parishes but same 2 people

This looks like William

Perth 1808

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM91-RTR

and sblings

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gh1/

The death Ev provided is definitely worth checking as it's not out much in terms & it depended on the informant.

The other thing to consider is there was only 1 marriage for those 2 names 1800 - 1820

SP has a death for an Ann Nicol (other surname McDonald) 1879 Perth , Perth , born c1794.

Annie
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Mollyrobz on Friday 15 January 16 19:33 GMT (UK)
Hello everybody,
I've been meaning to reply to this post for a while but I haven't had a chance to get round to it before now!
I have a copy of that death cert for Ann Nicol 1879.
It says she was the Widow of John Nicol a Grocer. She passed away at 13 Barossa (?) street, Perth aged 85.
Her father was Donald Mcdonald and her mother was Wainwood Mcdonald no M.S or occupation for either. The informant was George Clark the son in law :)
Molly
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 16 January 16 02:19 GMT (UK)
Molly,

There's a marriage on familysearch.org for Wainwood & Donald McDonald 1776.

Her m/s would also be McDonald.

If you go to familysearch just type in Wainwood McDonald & it brings up plenty so no need to type in place or dates.

Annie
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Mollyrobz on Saturday 16 January 16 09:40 GMT (UK)
Hello Annie,
Yes I've also purchased that  cert from SP  :)
I did strike me as odd that her surname was also Mcdonald, do you think that they where related?  ???
Molly
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Mollyrobz on Monday 25 January 16 19:35 GMT (UK)
I can't seem to find anything on Wainewood Mcdonald  ???

Does anybody know about the name 'Wainewood'? It's so unusual, is it a common name in Scotland or is it a last name being used as a first name or something? I can't find anything about the name on Google, only a few other people that had it as a name also which doesn't help! :)
Molly
Title: Re: Nicol and Mcdonald families
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 25 January 16 20:47 GMT (UK)
I did strike me as odd that her surname was also Mcdonald, do you think that they where related?  ???
Molly

Molly,

It's not impossible they were related.

Can you tell us which parish both were from please?

Annie