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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: Mollyrobz on Thursday 12 November 15 12:37 GMT (UK)
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Please help me find info on John Nicol and Ann Mcdonald. As with my last post I'm very limited to the information that I have on them which of course, makes it rather difficult to find anything out!
All I know of is that one of their sons William Nicol had them named on his death cert. He was born roughly 1810 in Perth. He married Mary Ballingall in 1830 and then Jean Kay some years later
Molly
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Hi Molly,
What were the names of William's siblings please?
Annie
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Molly,
Some info. here including their marriage....
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gh1/
Annie
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Interestingly, I have a McDonald connection from Perth.
Alexander McDonald b c 1809 Perth = Catherine Steedman b c 1808 Orwell, Kinross married 1834 Kirkcaldy, Fife :-\ I don't have Alexander's parents as his son was only an in-law.
Their son John Alexander b 1846 Ceres, Fife married my 2 x g grandaunt 1873 Newcastle, Northumberland.
Annie
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Hi ,
Does the death cert. give an occupation for John Nicol ?
Have you tried here -
http://www.pkc.gov.uk/article/3887/Perth-burgh-burial-registers-1794-1855
ev
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Hello Annie,
You could be a possible relation, it really is a small world isn't it :)
Hello Ev,
Thank you for the link, John Nicols occupation according to his son Williams death cert was 'Grocer'
Molly
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There is a death for a John Nicol grocer in 1849 , age 62.
Address given as South Street.
ev
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1841 FreeCen has John Nicol 50 grocer and Ann Nicol 55 in South Street , Perth.
ev
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Thank you Ev,
I hate seeing dates for things before 1855 :) how so you find out mothers surnames and things pre 1855? The certificates that I've bought in the past that are pre 1855 all tend to be pretty limited with the info that they give out. Bit off topic but I just thought I'd ask
Molly
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It is difficult to find further information before the 1841 Census.
SP has a death for an Ann Nicol(other surname McDonald) 1879 Perth , Perth , born c1794.
A bit out on the age given on the 1841 Census transcription but it might be worth a look.
ev
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Looks like John & Ann's marriage
Tibbermore, Perth 1808
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY3G-FMZ
Perth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY3J-P5D
Both would have been from different parishes but same 2 people
This looks like William
Perth 1808
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM91-RTR
and sblings
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gh1/
The death Ev provided is definitely worth checking as it's not out much in terms & it depended on the informant.
The other thing to consider is there was only 1 marriage for those 2 names 1800 - 1820
SP has a death for an Ann Nicol (other surname McDonald) 1879 Perth , Perth , born c1794.
Annie
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Hello everybody,
I've been meaning to reply to this post for a while but I haven't had a chance to get round to it before now!
I have a copy of that death cert for Ann Nicol 1879.
It says she was the Widow of John Nicol a Grocer. She passed away at 13 Barossa (?) street, Perth aged 85.
Her father was Donald Mcdonald and her mother was Wainwood Mcdonald no M.S or occupation for either. The informant was George Clark the son in law :)
Molly
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Molly,
There's a marriage on familysearch.org for Wainwood & Donald McDonald 1776.
Her m/s would also be McDonald.
If you go to familysearch just type in Wainwood McDonald & it brings up plenty so no need to type in place or dates.
Annie
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Hello Annie,
Yes I've also purchased that cert from SP :)
I did strike me as odd that her surname was also Mcdonald, do you think that they where related? ???
Molly
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I can't seem to find anything on Wainewood Mcdonald ???
Does anybody know about the name 'Wainewood'? It's so unusual, is it a common name in Scotland or is it a last name being used as a first name or something? I can't find anything about the name on Google, only a few other people that had it as a name also which doesn't help! :)
Molly
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I did strike me as odd that her surname was also Mcdonald, do you think that they where related? ???
Molly
Molly,
It's not impossible they were related.
Can you tell us which parish both were from please?
Annie