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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: enileuqcaj on Thursday 12 November 15 15:50 GMT (UK)
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hi my great x4 grandparents were peter mccann from ireland who came over and married margaret campbell in ayr they had son michael who had peter and i am hisgreat great granddaughter any info on the mccanns would be grate help to me to add to my family tree thanks
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Hi there :)
Could you add some dates to the above as this helps when trying to look at info.
Have you managed to find BMDs and census entries in Scotland for the family?
Monica
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Have found an online tree here http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/1058664/person/6193692576 You need a subscription to be able to view. Another source here www.williamdavidson.com/wc107/wc107_090.htm
They show Peter McCann as having married a Margaret GEMMELL not Campbell. Possible marriage here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTNH-73T
There are a few Peter McCanns, at least one other from Ireland and married to a Margaret, in the Ayrshire area. This is why it is important for you to work back up your line, verying details, names etc along the way...
The family were Roman Catholic? RC records for BMDS etc are always complicated before 1855 and the start of official registration on Scotland. However, I think there is an entry for a birth & christening for a son, Peter, to Peter and Margaret Gemmell in Ayrshire (at St Margaret's in Ayr) in 1844 on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. Would fit with this 1851 census entry:
Peter Mccann 51 coal miner b. Ireland
Agnes Mccann 15 b. Ireland
Margaret Mccann 10 b. St Quivox, Ayrshire
Peter Mccann 7 b. St Quivox, Ayrshire
Address: Main Road, Whitletts, Newton on Ayr
From www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl in 1851, Peter Snr showing as widowed.
Monica
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Is this Michael and family here in 1861? He is living with sister Agnes and brother Peter. Peter Snr having died in 1860, also at Elba Street. The entry below:
Agnes Mckean 25 head, sewer b. St Quivox (Ireland in 1851)
Peter Mckean 16 brother coal miner b. St Quivox
Michael Mckean 35 coal miner b. St Quivox
Catherine Mckean 28
Peter Mckean 10
James Mckean 8
Margaret Mckean 4
Michael Mckean 2
John Mckean 6
Address: Elba St, St Quivox Ayr
The death registration of Michael McCann in 1880 in Ayr will help, if you don't have it yet, to confirm his parents' names. As will Peter McCann's snr's death in 1860 also in Ayr for tracing back to his parents and his wife's maiden name confirmation. You can view these both online here www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk.
Monica
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Spelling variations and mistransciptions are always a feature at this time :-\ Just had another look for the family's 1841 census. I think they have been transcribed as MCCLANE. FreeCen have them this way, and they are a hardy experienced bunch of volunteers by area. Guessing the original image on SP looks that way too.
Peter McClane, 55 Collier b. Ireland
Margaret McClane, 30 b. Ireland
Michael McClane, 15 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver b. Ayrshire
John MCCLANE 10 Shoemaker b. Ayrshire
Agnes MCCLANE 5 b. Ayrshire
Margret MCCLANE 2 months b. Ayrshire
Address: George Street, Wallacetown, St Quivox Ayrshire.
Monica
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Spelling of surnames was very fluid. In Ulster Campbell, Gamble, Gemmell & Gammell can all be used for same family.
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Thank you, Aghadowey :) Didn't know that in Ireland Campbell could connect to that set of surnames. Makes sense then...which is good for the research. Likely Campbell has been used in Scotland for some of the registrations.
Monica
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My 3xgreatgrandparents were the Peter McCann and Margaret Gemmel mentioned, are they the people you are interested in?
Maureen.
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yes they are i hope my connection is peter/margaret son michael married to christine mckenzie their son peter married mary johnston and their daughter jemima married stewart caddis who had my gran agnes we dont really know much about the mccann family and would be interested in any info on them .what line of the mcanns are you from if you dont mind me asking ?
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hi
i e just came across this old post
and i m researching it for a familly member
Peter McCann Born Ireland,
married Margaret Gambob 30/1/1826
since then her maiden name varies
a lot ie Gambol Gemmel Garniel
the birth of their 1st child Michael 16/11/1826
Michael marries Christina McKenzie 1848
their son Michael was born 1859
he marries Magaret Campbell 1881
up till this point they remain in Ayr, St margarets and St Quivox
the McCann names changes on different documents
varying from McCann to McClane McCain McGown Mckean
from Ayr Michael and Margaret then appear in Govan
birth of their son John Campbell McCann 1892
1901 they are in Kinning park Margaret is gone and Agnes Aiken appears
1911 Renfrew with familly
1914 John Campbell McCann marries Sarah Fowler
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hi saw your post may i ask what connection your family member has to the mccann family if you dont mind answering as i said on my post my grandmother was jemima mccann who was granddaughter of michael and christine mccann ive not been doing research lately due to family commitments my greatgrandfather peter stayed in ayr to he died in1907 .i will look out what i do have and maybe if you wish we could see what info we both have.
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hi
i myself am not connected to the McCanns
my future daughter inlaw is she stems from
Michael McCann and Christina Mckenzie
then their son Michael and Margaret Campbell
then John Campbell McCann and Sarah Fowler,
John was born in Govan,
But previous generation are born Ayrshire,
except Peter who was born Ireland Abt 1792
his wife Margaret was born Ayrshire according to census
her maiden name i can t be certain of as i ve found
5 variations on marriage births and census docs
ranging from Gambol to Gemmell,
the McCann name also varies a lot
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hi
checking on what i have Peter would have been born 1849
on the 1851 census for Ayr he s 14 mths old
with him is father Michael and mother Christina
but the name has changed to McGown
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hi so your daughter -in -law is my great great granpa peters brother john ive not been able to find anything on john now i know why . peter mccann born 1804 to margaret gemmell born 1811 in maybole ayrshire on their wedding extract from parish records .what sort of info are you looking for i can go back generations with names and that they lived in dublin but few ancestors emigrated to usa but no info so far on them but info is more easy to research so ive been hoping to start again soon .i dont know much about my great grandfather except he live in ayr and was a peddlar who owned his own cottage he died in 1907and married mary johnston from ireland i know when he had jemima my great gran was born his surname was mckean so yes confusing but not came across them under mcgown so will have to check it out . sorry if bit long but if i can get time to check my family tree stuff for more info for you hope this helps
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hi sorry meant your daughter- in -law connection is that john campbell mccann is my great grandfather peters nephew not his brother sorry for error .
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hi
yes Peter and Michael where Sons of Michael and Christina Mckenzie,
i have Peter born 29/1/1850 St Margarets, Ayr on the SP index
it has Christina as Mckeag,
and Michael born 17/3/1859 St Quivox, Ayr
Michael that married Christina McKenzie
i have as born 16/11/1826 St Margarets, Ayr
to Peter McCann and Margaret Gambol,
but for Peter and Margarets Marriage
I have Peter and Margaret Gambob 31/1/1826 St Margarets, Ayr
attached is the SP birth index for Peter and Margarets children