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Title: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Friday 13 November 15 00:48 GMT (UK)
Hoping for some assistance to locate the birth/baptism of Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan. ???

Catherine immigrated to Australia and the above information has been collated from her immigration and death records.

Westy
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: gaffy on Friday 13 November 15 04:49 GMT (UK)
Annagh RC parish might be a possibility.  There is the following potential sibling baptised as Martin on 22 February 1860 with parents recorded as John Lyons and Winifred Meehan and sponsors James and Honor Lyons (right page, not quite halfway down page):

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631986#page/39/mode/1up
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Friday 13 November 15 05:46 GMT (UK)
Hello Gaffy

If you could see me I am smiling out of pure pleasure.  That is Catherine and yes her brother Martin as well.  Superb. :) [Shame there isn't an icon for ecstatic!]

Thank you so much.

Westy
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Friday 13 November 15 05:53 GMT (UK)
Hello again

Any ideas for the exact date of Catherine's baptism and exactly what does the record say?  Clipping attached. ???

Westy
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: gaffy on Friday 13 November 15 07:50 GMT (UK)
Fby 22 Martin of John Lyons Winifred Meehan
Sp James & Honor Lyons
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Friday 13 November 15 08:04 GMT (UK)
So as to Catherine???? ;D
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: gaffy on Friday 13 November 15 08:46 GMT (UK)
I haven't found Catherine, per reply #1 I posted this possible sibling (possible on the basis of the parents' names, county and timeframe), to alert you of the possibility of the location of Catherine being in Annagh RC parish.

Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Friday 13 November 15 11:53 GMT (UK)
Ahh! I was having a slow moment there so apologies :-\

Westy
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 13 November 15 12:52 GMT (UK)
Ahh! I was having a slow moment there so apologies :-\

Westy

While not saying "Do it yourself!" you are really better off going through the registers for yourself to get an image of the Lyons... maybe a spreadsheet with just year in a column, then go through registers for any BDM's, IF deaths are there then they might have age, so birth year can be figured out, (not always correct!) but then a "Sort" can get them in a timeline and then you can get marriage/children etc... plus there could be other siblings!!

Someone else may just get the 2 you named...as it takes quite a bit of time!
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Friday 13 November 15 13:40 GMT (UK)
Yes definitely: just what I have been doing and yes it takes quite some time but that's the deal with Family History.  I just got  a little excited and then thought I must have imagined things as I couldn't see Catherine.  ::)

Westy
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 13 November 15 16:15 GMT (UK)
Goodness knows what you will spot that others might miss!
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Owenwee on Sunday 15 November 15 21:52 GMT (UK)
Westy

Catherine Lyons  Baptized  19th June 1853
Parish  Annagh Co Mayo

Father  John Lyons   Mother Not Recorded
Sponsors
John Meenagh
Judy Flatley
Noted on record 2/6

Austin Lyons
15 Feb 1852
Parish Annagh
Father John Lyons  mother Winifred Meehan
sponsors
James Lyons
Mary Mullarky
Noted 2/6

Winifred Lyons
16 Nov 1856
Annagh
Father John Lyons mother Winifred  No Surname
sponsors
Thomas Morley
Bridget Mulkeen
noted 2/6

John Lyons
Annagh  11 Oct 1858
Father John Lyons  mother Winifred Meehan
sponsors
Patrick Lyons
Bridget Lyons
Noted 2/6

Martin Lyons
Annagh  22 Feb 1860
Father John Lyons mother Winifred Meehan
sponsors
James Lyons
Honor Lyons

I think if amount is shown against record that the families are related,i have seen this on marriage records.  These records are taken from a site I use.

Martin Lyons by 1901 is living in Townland of Culnacleha  Parish Annagh Co Mayo. I have found a marriage in 1885 married to a Mary Mcgarry, his father is listed as John Lyons a farmer.  By 1911 he has remarried with a young family.

I do see there is a well documented Tree On Ancestry with records from Catherine and some siblings in Australia, have you connections?


Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Monday 16 November 15 02:00 GMT (UK)
Hello Owenwee

Thank you so very much.  A PM on its way.

Westy
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: gaffy on Monday 16 November 15 14:42 GMT (UK)

Westy

Catherine Lyons  Baptized  19th June 1853
Parish  Annagh Co Mayo

Father  John Lyons   Mother Not Recorded
Sponsors
John Meenagh
Judy Flatley
Noted on record 2/6

Austin Lyons
15 Feb 1852
Parish Annagh
Father John Lyons  mother Winifred Meehan
sponsors
James Lyons
Mary Mullarky
Noted 2/6

Winifred Lyons
16 Nov 1856
Annagh
Father John Lyons mother Winifred  No Surname
sponsors
Thomas Morley
Bridget Mulkeen
noted 2/6

John Lyons
Annagh  11 Oct 1858
Father John Lyons  mother Winifred Meehan
sponsors
Patrick Lyons
Bridget Lyons
Noted 2/6

Martin Lyons
Annagh  22 Feb 1860
Father John Lyons mother Winifred Meehan
sponsors
James Lyons
Honor Lyons

I think if amount is shown against record that the families are related,i have seen this on marriage records.  These records are taken from a site I use.

Martin Lyons by 1901 is living in Townland of Culnacleha  Parish Annagh Co Mayo. I have found a marriage in 1885 married to a Mary Mcgarry, his father is listed as John Lyons a farmer.  By 1911 he has remarried with a young family.

I do see there is a well documented Tree On Ancestry with records from Catherine and some siblings in Australia, have you connections?


I posted a link at reply #1 to a specific NLI RC record for the baptism of Martin Lyons on 22 Feb 1860 in Annagh RC parish which I think may be relevant, could you provide the links to the others? I struggled to find them with my eyes.  :-\

Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Owenwee on Monday 16 November 15 22:52 GMT (UK)
Gaffy


I didn't get the details from the Nli  records I subscribe to Irish Family History records site and found them on that.

I agree it is very difficult to read the  Nli records
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Monday 16 November 15 23:47 GMT (UK)
Hi

You say the "Irish Family History records" site would that be Roots Ireland at https://rootsireland.ie??

Westy
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 17 November 15 08:26 GMT (UK)
right hand page you will see 12th 5th person down is Catherine
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631986#page/20/mode/1up
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 17 November 15 08:40 GMT (UK)
left hand page  Austin
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631986#page/17/mode/1up
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: conahy calling on Tuesday 17 November 15 12:03 GMT (UK)
"I think if amount is shown against record that the families are related"  Owenwee

Could it possibly be the amount paid?  2 shillings 6 pence  (2/6)
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Tuesday 17 November 15 13:03 GMT (UK)
Hello dathai

Thanks so much for that: you must have wonderful eyes.  :o I'm afraid mine aren't terribly good...

From what I know there are still 2 children who have not been located.  The first is their son James who may well have been born in 1847 according to his age at death.  There is also Bridget and I nothing about her so far but in order of sequence she may have been the second born.

Currently there is a gap between when James was born about 1847 and Austin in 1952 so just maybe this is when Bridget was born. 

It was the middle of the Potato Famine when James was born so just maybe Bridget was another casualty?  I think they did remarkably to have kept the number of children alive as so many others died. :'(

Westy

Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 17 November 15 14:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Westy
Take note of date of start of Baptisms not much hope of finding any for James or Bridget
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1040
Title: Re: Catherine Lyons b abt 1854 Mayo to John Lyons & Winifred Meehan
Post by: Westy11 on Tuesday 17 November 15 14:42 GMT (UK)
Yes I see what you mean... Nonetheless thanks so much... :)