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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: Nairda on Sunday 15 November 15 14:00 GMT (UK)
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I am unable to trace death registration of William Alexander WALKER born 12/04/1890 Tullylish, Down. He resided in Cross Rathfriland in 1911 Census. A check on GRONI has failed to locate his death registration record. His son did not record him as NOK circa 1924. I would appreciate any advice to progress. Thanks
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he could have lived to 100...
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I am unable to trace death registration of William Alexander WALKER born 12/04/1890 Tullylish, Down. He resided in Cross Rathfriland in 1911 Census. A check on GRONI has failed to locate his death registration record. His son did not record him as NOK circa 1924. I would appreciate any advice to progress. Thanks
For reference here's the 1911 census page-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Rathfryland/Cross/258493
When and where is the last time you've found an actual record of him?
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Has this one been ruled out yet?
Walker William Alexander of the Down County Mental Hospital Downpatrick county Down farmer died 25 July 1941 Administration Belfast 15 October to Joseph Walker farmer. Effects £835 11s. 5d.
When and where did wife die? what was listed as status? (widowed, etc.)
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Here's the Walker family in 1901. Have you checked for a burial in family plot/same graveyard as family?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Tullyish/Tullylish/1204703
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I have the Tullylish and Rathfriland Census details. Apart from the Birth and Census records the last reference is in 1924 when his sons Army attestation papers show the son's wife's father as next of kin. No mention of his father or mother then? I am also aware of the Downpatrick death but I am reasonably certain that is not him.
His wife was Elizabeth Bell born abt 1880 from Hilltown? They were marrried on 31/07/1908 at Hilltown Presbyterian Church
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The census links were posted so that everyone could see the details without everyone having to search.
You haven't really answered the question I was asking. Not being listed as son's next of kin in 1924 doesn't confirm that the father is alive or dead so doesn't help to find his death. We need to work forward from the last sighting. Is the 1911 census the latest record of him, and his wife, found?
What about the son's marriage (when?)- what's his father's occupation then and is he listed as deceased?
How were you able to rule out the 1941 death?
Are you related to the Walker family? did anyone keep in contact with William? or is there any indication that he disappeared or emigrated?
Unfortunately he might appear in records just as William Walker making him more difficult to pin down.
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An Elizabeth Walker of Cross signed Ulster Declaration in 1912- no sign of William with that address but not everyone did sign.
http://apps.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenant/image.aspx?image=W0024280006
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If this is WAW's brother Robert have you tried searching for WAW serving in WWI?
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=214648
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ghi/
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ghi/
Born c1853-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRKZ-KYC
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Ballyworphy/Cabragh/249615/
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one could always try Wills to see if he is an inheritor!?
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for example... http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639362162
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for example... http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639362162
Died 1874 :-\
The Will Extract doesn't show the beneficiaries of a will but merely who was granted probate, etc.
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for example... http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639362162
Died 1874 :-\
The Will Extract doesn't show the beneficiaries of a will but merely who was granted probate, etc.
Handy for names/dates/addresses etc though
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Still a stone wall with this one which I haven't been able to progress. His wife died 11 December 1918 with the Spanish Flu at Cavan, Rathfriland, Co Down. Her father Henry Bell present at death. Last record I found of William Alexander is birth of his son David 26/09/1911. There is an inference that he may have perished in the Great War but I can find no suitable record of identification on CWGC.
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Lots more information available online since you started this thread but you didn't answer some of the questions posted here previously.
The William Alexander Walker who died in 1941 was a good bit older than the one you are looking for so can now be ruled out.
Elizabeth Walker's death certificate gives her as married (since her father was informant that's probably accurate)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05175/4428381.pdf
So, you are looking for William's death AFTER 1918.
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His son William joined the Army in 1924 and gave next of kin as Henry Bell, his mothers father. William married in July 1935 and it was recorded his father was deceased.
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Keep in mind that if the father had disappeared when the children were young (for whatever reason) the son might list him as deceased even if he didn't actually know that the father had died.
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Have you tried the valuation books
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/ImageResult.aspx
I quickly checked through the entries in Cross in the 1909 + book, but I couldn't see a record of hime, but could be worth a second look.
Here is William's parents and siblings in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee/Terryhoogan/332444/
I would look for the other living children in 1911
The children in 1901 are
David - at home in 1911
William
Robert - Where is he in 1911?
Thomas - Where is he is 1911?
Victor
Samuel
Jane Eliza
Born after 1901
George
Sarah Ann
They had 10 children and 9 living at this stage - the first child William David died in infancy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06216/4778707.pdf
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Just bringing this to the front again. Haven't been able to break down the brick wall on this one. Just posting again if there are any new sources available that I may have overlooked or not be aware of.
The only record I have found since, is his attempt to enlist in the Royal Irish Fusiliers in 1906, when he was clearly underage by a year, give is birth date as 1889 and later was discharged. He used only William Walker on enlistment.
Details of Militia Attestation Papers, 1800-1915:- William Walker, Gender Male, Marital Status Single, Age 17, Birth Year abt 1889, Birth Place Tullylish, Gilford, Down, Ireland, Enlistment Date 5 Nov 1906, Enlistment Place Portadown, Ireland, Regiment 87th Foot (R. Irish Fusiliers), Service Number 4782, Father James Walker, Mother Jane Eliza.