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Dorschke Family of Ratibor, Upper Silesia
Victor Dorschke (1889-1969) was the head of the Dorschke Family in Ratibor, Upper Silesia. Victor (or Viktor) Dorschke was born Dec 1 1889 in Hohenbirken, Ratibor, Silesia. He died Jul 1 1969 in Muhldorf am Inn, Bavaria, Germany. Victor Dorschke was a displaced person from the East after WWII. Victor Dorschke was married to Marie Kokot (1897-1948) and they had six children together: Eduard, Maria, Angelika, Dorothea, Rudi, and Arnold. Marie Kokot, aka by her married name Marie Dorschke, was born Jan 31 1897 in Adamowitz, Landkreis Ratibor, Upper Silesia. Upper Silesia was a province of Prussia at this time. Marie Kokot died on Mar 4, 1948. It is unknown where she died. She was the 1st wife of Victor Dorschke. His 2nd wife may have been ‘Toni’, although she may have just been a girlfriend. The Heimat of the Dorschke Family was Ratibor. It is believed that the Dorschke surname is of Polish origin and that the Dorschke’s of Ratibor were Catholic. It is known the Dorschke’s spoke German with a Polish accent.
Victor Dorschke was a displaced person in Bavaria after WWII and seems to have registered in Ludwigsburg, Germany as well. He settled in Waldkraiburg, Bavaria, after the war. The address of Victor Dorschke and Marie Kokot was Memel str. 13 in Ratibor during the wartime period 1939-1945.
The six children of Victor Dorschke (1889-1969) and Marie Kokot (1897-1948) were Eduard Dorschke (1916-2003), Maria Dorschke (1919-1984), Angelika 'Gela' Dorschke (1920-1996), Dorothea 'Doris' Dorschke (1922-1951), Rudi Dorschke Sr. (1923-1995), and Arnold Dorschke (1925-1945). Marie Kokot Dorschke (1897-1948) should not be confused with her daughter Maria Dorschke (1919-1984).
Dorothea Dorschke married Paul Ernst Kaess (1921-2002) on Mar 14 1944 in the St. Johannes Pfarrkirche (parish church) of Ratibor, a Catholic church that still stands. They had two children: Elke Angelika Kaess (b.1945, d. 1945), and Gerd Edwin Paul Kaess (1947-1972).
Victor Dorschke has descendants living in Germany, the USA, and Mexico.
I am looking for lookups for family names in addressbooks in prewar Silesia and any other info on the Dorschke Family.
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It appears that Viktor Dorschke and Marie Kokot (aka Kokott) were married on Nov 10 1914 in a church in Markowitz, Upper Silesia, Prussia. Viktor's surname at the time of the marriage was DROZDZIOK. His age was 25 (from Hohenbirken) and her age was 18 (from Adamowitz). He appears to have changed his Polish surname Drozdziok to Dorschke after the marriage.
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In 2015, Paul Brown of the Reading Room of the National Archives II (NARA II) at College Park, Maryland, said the following might have the Dorschke surname: 1) Microfilm Publications A3342, EWZ 52, Roll A110, and 2) Microfilm Publications A3342, EWZ 57, Roll J133.
The Einwanderungszentralstelle (EWZ) Anträge (Immigration Center Applications) is a collection of records consisting of more than 400,000 applications by ethnic Germans living outside Germany during the period 1939-1945. These were people applying for naturalized German citizenship. The EWZ 52 cards are for Poland, and the EWZ 57 cards are the E Karti or General Information cards with an additional G Karti or health card. Information in the EWZ 52 and EWZ 57 cards might provide a numeric number for the EWZ 58 or 'stammblatter' cards. In any case, EWZ 52 and EWZ 57 cards may provide valuable information on the Dorschke's.
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Five Marriages of Drozdziok’s in Slaskie (Silesia), Parish Lubecko for period 1820-1835
1 1821 Carl Drapacz & Maria Drozdziok
Lubecko 02-12-1821
2 1832 Blasius Drozdziok & Hedwiga Pawelczik
Lubecko 02-20-1832
3 1833 Joseph Gross & Agnes Drozdziok
Lubecko 09-2-1833
4 1821 Thomas Kudlensky & Maria Drozdziok
Lubecko 02-19-1821
5 1831 Johann Solaski & Agnes Drozdziok
Lubecko 01-24-1831
Researcher believes that these Drozdziok's may be related to Viktor Drozdziok (aka Dorschke) because of the surname similarity and also because these folks also lived in Upper Silesia, specifically Lubecko (what is now Lubecko, Lubliniec County, Silesian Voivodeship, Poland).
In addition, Drozdziok is spelled Drozdziuk in other sources. Drozdziok appears to be an earlier manifestation of the surname that later became Dorschke.
website where info found: http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/
Archives:
Archiwum Archidiecezjalne w Częstochowie
Adres:
42-225 Częstochowa, ul. Św. Barbary 41
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The names of the parents of Victor Dorschke (aka 'Viktor Drozdziok') appear to be Franciszek and Marianna. This comes from a marriage license/record (presumably for Victor and Marie) found in Nedza, near Raciborz, Poland, from 1914.
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The name of the Father of Marie Kokott (1897-1948) appears to be Karol Kokott.
Unrelated, the FHL film number (corresponding to the Dorschke surname) for Microfilm Publications A3342, EWZ 57 series, roll J133, is 1806374. The FHL film number (corresponding to the Drozdziok surname) for Microfilm Publications A3342, EWZ 57 series, roll J141, is 1806382.
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Marriage entry for Viktor Dorschke and Marie Kokot in a Catholic church in Markowitz, Upper Silesia:
10 Nov 1914: Viktor DROZDZIOK (from Hohenbirken, age 25) with Marie KOKOTT (from Adamowitz, age 18). Witness: Peter Halama and Igna[t]z Pannek, both from Raschütz. Viktor Dorschke appears to have changed his Polish name Drozdziok to Dorschke after the marriage.
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Here is a link to a Forum Topic on Victor Dorschke at Polish Origins.com:
http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=28948#28948
Below is a link to a section called 'The Dorschke's of Silesia' from the Kaess/Dawson Family (2016):
http://www.genealogycenter.info/viewpage_kaessdawson.php?realpage=110&display=kaessdawson-22
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The parents of Victor Dorschke/Drozdziok/Drozdzok are Franz Drozdzok and Marianna Mandrisch, both from Hohenbirken, Upper Silesia. The parents of Marie Kokott are Karl Kokott and Marianna, both from Adamowitz, Upper Silesia. There is a marriage record of Nov 8 1914 (in Markowitz) for Victor Dorschke and Marie Kokott. There also appears to be a marriage record dated Nov 10 1914 for the same couple.
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German Red Cross has Arnold Dorschke's (1925-1945) unit as Kompanie 3, 223 Grenadier-Regiment. Volksbund has his unit as 3./Gr.R.564 ; This would stand for 3rd Kompanie, 564 Grenadier-Regiment. The 2nd unit was part of the 154th Infantry Division- a division formed in the last year of the war at Oderberg, Germany.
The first unit, as Grenadier-(Feldausbildungs-) Regiment 223, was part of the 154th (Feldausbildungs-) Division and fought in North Ukraine. This division transitioned into the 2nd unit- the 154th Infantry Division.
It was once believed that Arnold had fought in the 16th Volksgrenadier Division but this possibility seems less likely.
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To gain a perspective of what the Dorschke's might have exerienced after WWII, see the following work: A Terrible Revenge: The Ethnic Cleansing of the East European Germans, 1944–1950 , by Alfred-Maurice de Zayas, St. Martin's Press, New York, 2006.
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The town history book (Heimatbuch) for Ratibor is Ratibor- Stadt und Land and der oberen Oder. Ein Heimatbuch. Author is Alois Kosler, pub. 1980.
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The following are from a 1938 address book for Ratibor, Germany.
1) page 38, listing Viktor Dorschke (Arbeiter) , Marie Dorschke (Arbeiterin) on Memel str. 13, and Eduard Dorschke, on Melfenweg 11.
2) page 198, listing residents of Memel str. 13, including Victor Dorschke.
Memel str. may also have been known as Bosatzer str. , which is located on the North side of Ratibor, North of the Oder River. This latter info comes from a book about Ratibor, called 'Ratibor, einst und jetzt', by Paul J. Newerla, pub. 1998.
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The former "Bosatzer Straße" was renamed "Memelstrasse" in 1938. That's why you cannot find this street on the 1933 map. Memel str. shows up on a 1942 map of Ratibor.
Memelstraße was certainly in Ratibor - in the district OSTROG (since 1938 Raciborz-North) - not in Hohenbirken.
"Brzezie" - since about 1907 "Hohenbirken" - belonged to the district Ratibor. After the vote of 1921 Hohenbirken was separated in 1922 from Ratibor County and awarded to Poland (Rybnik). The village was again called "Brzezie" after 1926 - "Brzezie nad Odrą" (Brzezie an der Oder). In September 1939, when Poland was captured by German troops (and Poland was occupied), the name "Hohenbirken" came into being again. In 1945, when Upper Silesia became Polish, "Brzezie nad Odra" came again. In 1976, Brzezie was associated with the city of Racibórz.
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Viktor Drozdzok (later Dorschke), dob listed as 01.12.1889 and hometown as Hohenbirken, Upper Silesia, is listed in a newspaper account as missing (Vermisst) from his unit on 1919-04-02. His unit is mentioned as Infanterie-Regiment 395 and the Liste as Preussen 1403. Here is a link to the newspaper:
http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/7383489
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Viktor Drozdzok (Dorschke)'s address at the time of his wedding (about 1914) may have been Amalien str. 14 in Ratibor. There is a 1938 address for Ingrid Renata Dorschke of Inburtenburg str. 605 in Ratibor. Her relation to the Dorschke family is currently unknown- she may have been a 7th sibling or Cousin (of Dorothea Dorschke).
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Below is a translation of a 1934 Nazi Party record for Viktor Dorschke indicating a name change from Viktor Drozdzok. It shows clearly that Viktor Dorschke was a member of the Nazi Party. The translation of a three page document follows:
"N.S.D.A.P. Silesia
Opole the 25th of July. 1934
Received 11.Aug.1934
N.S.D.A.P. Munich
08/14/1934
Herewith we send you the membership card No. 1 681 204 / of the President Viktor Drozdzok from Ratibor, with the request to change the name, since the Pg. Is now called Viktor Dorschke.
In the annex the membership card and a certified copy of the name change.
Heil Hitler!
Stamp of the N.S.D.A.P. Upper Silesia
This change of surname extends to the wife and those minor children of the named, who are under his parental authority and bear his former name
Opole May 29, 1934
The Prussian Government President I.A.
Signed signature
The above copy is in accordance with the original.
Ratibor, June 11, 1934
The mayor as Ortspolizeizeibehorde
Police Directorate
I. A. Gez. signature
Police Inspector
The correctness of this copy certifies
Stamp of the NASDP Ratibor
Index-Abtlg.We.
Munich, 24th August 1934
To the Gauleitung Upper Silesia of the NSDAP
In possession of your letter dated July 25, 1934 (Untergaukartei E), we inform you that on the basis of the document enclosed with your letter, we will use the name of the Pg. Drozdzok no. 1681204 in the Reichskartei have now changed to Dorschke. You will receive a newly created membership card for Pg. Dorschke for transfer.
Heil Hitler!
written note geb. 01/12/1889"
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There is also a section of the document that translates as follows:
"The small gardener Viktor Drozdzok in Ratibor, Amalienstr., No. 14, born on 1.12.1889 in Hohenbirken Kr. Ratibor introduces the family name Dorschke instead of the previous surname"
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While searching Genealodzy.pl, a marriage record was found for Franz Drosdzok and Marianna Mandrisch, married 1876 in Raciborz/Brzezie/Hohenbirken. In other searches at the same website, there were many Mandrisch's and Drozdzok's found in Raciborz/Brzezie/Hohenbirken. see links below:
http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=S&w=12sl&rid=S&search_lastname=Mandrisch&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=
http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=S&w=12sl&rid=S&search_lastname=Drozdzok&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=
There is also a marriage date of 1891 in Markowitz for Carl Kokot and Marianna Swienty. These are likely parents to Marie Kokot (1897-1948).
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Found something on Carl Kokott at the new Polish state archives website.
It looks as follows:
Personal - Akten des Kreis - Amtsgehilfe Carl Kokott
year / years 1919-1934
signature:
45/1191/0/40/117154
The link for the new Polish state archive is:
https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/wyszukiwarka
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The above file on Carl Kokott has 518 pages in it and is available at the Polish State Archives in Opole, Poland. Correspodence file # is OIiU.841.143.2019.MBM .
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For the EWZ 57 file, Dorschke surname might also be found under FHL number 1806374. From this document, you may be able to find a number to locate the Stammblatter or EWZ 58 file for the Dorschke family.
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See link for information on EWZ films.
http://www.volhynia.com/res-ewz.html
See following link for 1998 Vol VI FEEFHS Quarterly Journal with articles about EWZ files on pages 7-28.
https://feefhs.org/journal-volume-6
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The Dorschke name never made it to England/Wales. At least not spelled Dorschke. None on Free BMD.
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Rachael Salyer of NARA II searched the Microfilm Publications A3342, EWZ 52 files for the following surnames: They searched roll B004 for the name Drozdzok, roll C081 for the name Kokot, roll D058 for the name Mandrisch, and roll F084 for the name Swienty. they were unable to locate any entries on the microfilm rolls for Drozdzok, Mandrisch, and Swienty. They did, however, locate files for the family name Kokot: Josef Kokot and Franz Kokot.
It is not clear Marie Kokot Dorschke is related to any of these other Kokot's.
Just a reminder, Dorschke surname appears on EWZ 52 Roll A110. The EWZ 52 files are only available at NARA II in the USA and the Bundesarchiv in Berlin, Germany. EWZ 57 & EWZ 58 files are available at both FHL and NARA II in the USA and the Bundesarchiv in Berlin, Germany.
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Rachel Salyer of NARA II searched the A3342 Records Relating to the Activities of the Einwandererzentralstelle (EWZ). She searched the EWZ 57 subseries.
In the sub-series EWZ57, they searched roll J141 for the name Drozdzok and roll O157 for the name Mandrisch, but they were unable to locate any files for either of these names.
They also searched roll N092 for the name Kokot, and they found multiple files for this family name from frames 2114-2192.
Finally, they also searched roll T053 for the name Swienty, and they found three cards for individuals named Friedrich, Leopold, and Luise here.
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Below is an image of a death certificate for Maria Dorschke Kaesser (1919-1984):
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Below is an image of a death certificate for Rudolf (Rudi) Dorschke Sr. (1923-1995):
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Below is a translation of a 1969 Death Certificate for Viktor Dorschke (1889-1969):
"Number 199
Mühldorf am Inn, 2 July 1969
Viktor Dorschke, former railroad worker, Catholic, residing at Waldkraiburg, Münchener Platz 17, died on 1 July 1969, at 5:10 am in Mühldorf am Inn, Krankenhausstraße 1.
The decedent was born on 1 December 1889, in Hohenbirken, District Rybnik, Poland.
The decedent was divorced.
Recorded on written notice of the District Hospital, Mühldorf am Inn.
The Civil Registrar
[signature]
(1.) Birth entry of the deceased: Documentary evidence not proven.
(2.) The family book of the decedent: [blank]
(3.) Marriage of the decedent: [blank]"
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Krzysztof Langer of the State Archives in Katowice Branch in Racibórz informs that in team 18/349 of the Registry Office in Markowice, they were able to find the file birth of Marie Kokott from 1897. The name may be spelled Marii Kokott. They want 32 PLN for the image and research time.
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Attached is a photo of Dorothea Dorschke, Gerd Edwin Paul Kaess, and Paul Ernst Kaess (1921-2002). This photo was taken in SW Germany.
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Attached are a couple of photos of Dorothea Dorschke (1922-1951) before she developed Leukemia. She hailed from Ratibor/Hohenbirken, Upper Silesia.
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Krzysztof Langer of the State Archives in Katowice, Raciborz Branch, informs that the 1916 birth certificate for Eduard Dorschke from Brzezie (Hohenbirken).has been found. He was born March 31 1916.
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On Jan 20 2021, Hartmut Obst of the Staatsarchiv Ludwigsburg said he cannot find any railway worker records for Viktor Dorschke at his archive.
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The following webpage has information on Reichsbahn Personnel records. https://www.bev.bund.de/DE/Personal/Personalaktenarchiv/personalaktenarchiv_node.html
The following email address may entertain correspondence about Railway Records.
PA-Archiv.Berlin@bev.bund.de
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Dietmar Witt of the PA Archiv branch of the Bundesarchiv in Berlin says there are no records for Viktor Dorschke at his branch, but one may still search the Bundesarchiv in Koblenz. Try: koblenz@bundesarchiv.de
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Here are two documents for another Inquiry to the Bundesarchiv for Viktor Dorschke (1889-1969):
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On May 5 2021, Karynne Moses, a Genealogist, undertook a search for the Dorschke surname in EWZ records on microfilm at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. She failed to find any files with the Dorschke surname. Below is her report.
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The Bundesarchiv in Bayreuth, Germany, stores the Eastern documentation of the Federal Archives that was created in the 1950s. It contains questionnaires and reports on experiences and documentation about the expulsion of the Germans from former eastern regions after World War II.
laa@bundesarchiv.de
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The Bundesarchiv in Bayreuth, Germany, may also contain "Lastenausgleich" reports. These are Applications for 'Compensation for Damages' filled out after the war by Displaced Persons. The Vertriebene had to of course state where they had lived, and what they had had in terms of property before the war, and their current address, post-war.
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Dr. Markus Meinold of the Stadt Hamm Archives in Hamm, Germany had this to say about Rudi Dorschke Sr.
"there is in our archive a registration card of Rudolf Dorschke, of the town of Bockum-Hövel, which is now part of Hamm. With the help of this card I can give you the following information: Rudolf Dorschke arrived in Bockum-Hövel in 1950 from Magdeburg. In Magdeburg, he got married to Käthe Irma Wöge in 1946. His place of residence in Bockum-Hävel was heinrich-Heine-Straße till 1952, then Wernerstraße 36. This street is a part of a settlement, which was built at the beginning of the 20th century. He was a Miner at Radbod coal mine. This mine was in operation until 1990. It belonged in the 1950s tot he Altenessener Bergwerks-AG, Part oft the Hoesch AG.
Rudolf Dorschke may have worked here until the late 1970s, but this is only an interpretation, there is no information on this."
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On August 11, 2021, Brian Paul Kaess of Mexico received an email from Josiee Agnes M. of Poland containing about 12-14 documents and links to three more grave images. Josie M. is a Great-Granddaughter of Leon Kokot (1903-1988) and a Great-Grandniece of Marie Kokott Dorschke (1897-1948), Brian’s Gr. Grandmother. Therefore, they are third Cousins. Marie Kokot Dorschke was a wife to Viktor Dorschke (formerly Drozdzok) (1889-1969). These images have been uploaded to Find a Grave with the appropriate people.
Included in these documents/images are birth certificates for many of Marie Kokott’s siblings, a marriage record (November 1891) for Karl Kokott (1868-1930), Brian’s 2nd Great Grandfather, and Marianna Swienty (1870-1945), Brian’s 2nd Great Grandmother. Also, are Leon Kokot’s notes on the family. Most of the Birth/Marriage certificates are from Markowice (formerly Markowitz) Civil Registry Office, near Raciborz (formerly Ratibor), Poland.
The 12 children for Karl Kokott and Marianna Swienty are as follows:
1) Carl Kokot, b. 1892
2) Carl Kokot, b. 1893
3) Alphons Kokot, b. 1895
4) Marie Kokott Dorschke (1897-1948)
5) Martha Kokot, b. 1898
6) Mechtilde Kokot, b. 1900
7) Johann Kokot, b. 1901
8) Leon Kokot (1903-1988)
9) Maksymilian Kokot (1907-2003)
10) Anna Kokot, b. 1908
11) Jadwiga Kokot Skanina (1909-1991)
12) Waleska Kokot Siedlaczek(1913-1999)
Most, if not all, of the Kokot clan was born in Adamowitz (Now Adamowice, Poland)), Upper Silesia, Prussia. Germany.
Karl Kokott was born Dec 12 1868 in Adamowitz, Upper Silesia. He died Oct 3 1930. His wife, Marianna Swienty, was born Mar 21 1870 in Adamowitz and died Jan 11 1945. They are the parents of Marie Kokot Dorschke (1897-1948) and her siblings noted above. Karl Kokot’s Father was Jakob Kokot, born Jul 6 1840 in Adamowitz and married in 1858 (in Markowitz) to Apolonia Paulina Niewrzol, b. Feb 6 1832 in Adamowitz, the Mother of Karl Kokott. They are 3rd Gr. Grandparents to Brian Paul Kaess. Marianna Swiently’s Father was Johan (Christiansorind) Swienty, b. Jan 24 1838. Marianna’s mother was (Apolonia) Pauline Kordula, b. Nov 10 1837 in Adamowitz. They are 3rd Gr. Grandparents to Brian Paul Kaess.
Moderator Comment: See modification/update to this post by Brian, below.
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Johanna (Josiee.agnes) also says her Mom related a story that when she was Young (in the 70’s or 80’s) that Angela (Angelika) Dorschke would visit them from Germany by Car and would bring her dog and gifts. That’s how she knew about Marie Kokott, (Angela’s Mom) but not much.
Johanna says that Karl Kokot and Marianna Swienty (Swienty means 'Saint' in English) were buried in Raszczyce, but their graves were destroyed or moved to Adamowice. Johanna also says she lives in Adamowice (my great grand father Leon built the house in which I live). “Those who emigrated (and I know about) were you great grand mother [Marie Kokot] and Alphons (Alfons) Kokot (he moved to Czech Republic). My mum also believe that one of Leon's sisters may have lived in Canada (but she isn't 100% sure whether it was his sister or his wife's sister).”
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Aleksander Zawilski of Polish Origins says that Marie Kokot and Viktor Dorschke/Drozdzok were both Catholic.
Drozdzok and Mandrisch surname lines of the Kaess Family should show up in the Hohenbirken church records.
The civil registry office responsible for issuing vital records from Hohenbirken was located in Hohebirken itself. Its Catholic parish was located in Pogrzebin.
The following records from the Hohenbirken civil registry office are available to research:
Births: 1874-1917
Marriages: 1874-1933
Deaths: 1874-1884, 1886-1938
As for Pogrzebin Catholic parish, the available records are as follows:
Births: 1786-1876
Marriages: 1819-1934
Deaths: 1796-1924
As for Adamowitz, it belonged to the civil registry office in Markowitz and Catholic parish in Markowitz (Marie Kokott was Catholic as well).
Markowitz registry office:
Births: 1874-1916
Marriages: 1874-1936
Deaths: 1874-1935
Markowitz Catholic parish:
Births: 1781-1921
Marriages: 1732-1870
Deaths: 1801-1912
So, the good news is that there is a lot of materials to comb through, both civil and religious.
The bad news is that these records are spread around different institutions in different cities.
Civil records from Hohenbirken and Markowitz are in Racibórz.
Parish records from Pogrzebin are most likely in church archives in Katowice.
Parish records from Markowitz are in church archives in Opole.
A visit to only one of these archives is doable within one day of work.
Civil records from Markowitz are available online from 1874 to 1904 (I was able to find the marriage record of Marie Kokott's parents).
Possibly, also Markowitz's parish records could be accessible online (we work with a person who has scanned metric books that are available in LHS centers. Markowitz's parish records are uploaded at FamilySearch, so this might mean he has scans of them as well).
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The property inventories for Hohenbirken and Adamowitz should be located in the Katowice State Archives Raciborz branch as land records. The lands records for Adamowitz run from 1775-1944 and the land records for Hohenbirken/Brzezie run from 1526-1946.
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Johann Swienty (1838-?) was a Grandfather to Marie Kokot Dorschke (1897-1948). He was born in Lukow, Kreis Rybnik, Upper Silesia. Books from Rybnik(1638-1950) are today stored at the main catholic Archive in Kattowitz/Upper Silesia and there they can be checked. From here the relevant civil Record Czernitz Books from 1874-1904 are in the Statearchive Kattowitz/Branchoffice Ratibor and Books from 1905-1945 are today in the Office of Gaschowitz.
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See the (forthcoming) article on the Kokot Family of Silesia by Brian Paul Kaess in the Spring/Summer 2022 Issue of the Germanic Genealogy Journal. Marie Kokot Dorschke's name appears in the article. She is a Gr. Grandmother to Brian Paul Kaess. This article further explores the Silesian side of the Kaess/Dorschke Family.
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See Article by Brian Paul Kaess, 'Distant Cousin helps fill out Family Tree of Kokot Family in Silesia,' to appear on pg. 49 in Spring/Summer 2022 issue of Germanic Genealogy Journal.
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Below is a research log based on work done by the FHL Lookup Service on Sep 30 2022 on the Kokot/Niewrzol/Swienty/Kordula line.
"Your record is on film 8020961, image 356, record number 9.
The wedding was on 15 February 1858. Groom was the servant Jacob Rokot, born on 20 July 1833, 25 years old, from Adamowitz. Bride is Pauline (that is crossed out and Apolonia is written above), Niewrzot (the t looks like a crossed l), born on 2 February 1832, 26 years old, from Adamowitz. Witnesses are Frani Rawik from Adamowitz and Johann Rubin from Rasohulz.
The record for Carl is on film 8020960, image 461, record number 216. Carol was baptized in Adamowitz on 20 December 1868 and was born on 18 December at 9:00 pm. He was the son of Jacob Kokott and Pauline Niewrzot. The godparents are Valentin Kuizniera from Adamowitz and Francisca Wardenga from the same place.
The record for Marianna is on the same film 8020960, image 495, record 57. Marianna was baptized in Adamowitz on 23 March 1870 and was born on 21 March at 9 pm. She was the daughter of Johann Swiety and Apolonia Kordula (crossed l). The godparents were Johann Otszyna from Adamowitz and Franciska Wardenga from the same place.
I looked in film 8020960 for July 1840 as well as July 1839 and 1841. No luck.
There was a record on image 231 for a crossed out person named Jacob Kostka born on 24 July 1840 and baptized on 26 July.
Your record is on film 8020961, image 382, record number 32.
On November 15, 1864, the groom is the young man Johann Swienty, 26 years old, son of Matusz Swienty of Lukow. The bride is the young woman Pauline Kordula (the l looks like a crossed l) Korduła, 26 years old, daughter of Anton Korduła from Adamowitz. Witnesses were Fabian Blucha from Markowitz and Johann Wardenga from Adamowitz.
The wedding was on 15 February 1858. Groom was the servant Jacob Rokot, born on 20 July 1833, 25 years old, from Adamowitz. Bride is Pauline (that is crossed out and Apolonia is written above), Niewrzot (the t looks like a crossed l), born on 2 February 1832, 26 years old, from Adamowitz. Witnesses are Frani Rawik from Adamowitz and Johann Rubin from the same"
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The German Genealogy Group at Familysearch Community translated the baptismal record of Magdalena Pietczyk, shown below. Her Mother was Anna Kloshek, a 5th Great Grandmother to Brian Paul Kaess. Kloshek is a Polish surname. Translation is below:
Translation:
"On 21th of the same [month, i.e., July 1816] a little girl was baptized by the local priest, born to the farmer Jacob Pielczik (Pietczyk?) by his wife Anna née Kloshek in Adamowitz and named Magdalena. Witnesses [were] Mathus Walitzek, gardener and Magdalena Olschina, gardener, both from Adamowitz."
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Hello Brian,
I have seen you in several forums trying to solve this. First, in rootschat.com:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=735815.18
Second, in PolishForums:
https://polishforums.com/genealogy/dorschke-family-ancestors-upper-silesia-83012/
Third, in Ahnenforschung:
https://forum.ahnenforschung.net/archive/index.php/t-130972.html
Fourth, in Genealodzy:
https://genealodzy.pl/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=339658
Fifth, in SiliusRadicum:
https://siliusradicum.pl/cs/fora/temat/ancestors-of-victor-dorschke-and-marie-kokott/
Sixth, in PolishOrigins Forum:
https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=18829
Posting in 6 different forums is unacceptable! This can cause a duplication of work. Please post in only 1 forum from now on.
Thanks,
Lucas Kernan
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FHL Lookup Team Transcribed the following records:
1832, 20 October
Marriage between 30 September 1832
Georg Kokot & Franciska Piela
Markowitz, Ratibor, Silesia
1805, 17 September
From Adamowitz, Bernard Niewrzol and Francisca Piela
Presented for baptism their legitimate son Mathaus
(witnesses named)
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This can cause a duplication of work. Please post in only 1 forum from now on.
Lucas a small number of folk have been posting mulitple posts on the same family just on RootsChat alone we give a gentle reminder and most folk can then see that this could cause problems. We do still have some members who still forget to say thank you too even though this has been gently reminded and they are still "forgetting" this can be very upsetting for those who try their best to help.
Sarah
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Translation of Marriage for Georg Kokot and Franciska Piela:
"No. 46.
On the 30th of September [1832] were married in the Markowitz Church: the bachelor Georg Kokat from Adamowitz with the maiden Franciska Piela from Raschütz.
Groom is 33.
Bride is 30.
[Last column is probably witnesses]: Martin Kokat and Frantz Brosze of Adamowitz."
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Viktor Drozdzok (later Dorschke) Ancestors:
Franz Drozdzok was born Sep 24 1849 in Brzezie. His parents were Gregor Drozdzok & Magdalena Kapuscik (Kapusczik). He had a sister Karolina (m. in 1888 to Franz Sochira). His son Viktor Drozdzok had a sister Paulina Drozdzok (m. in 1900 to Emmanuel Burda). Franz Drozdzok's wife was Marianna Madrisch, b. Oct 15 1849 in Brzezie. Her parents were George Mandrisch and Johanna Buron. Marianna's sisters were: Karolina (m. 1879), Jadwiga (m. 1880) and Joanna (m. 1883).
See link: https://archiwum.archidiecezjakatowicka ... arafia/217