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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Buckinghamshire => Topic started by: Pat Hase on Friday 15 July 05 10:51 BST (UK)
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I've found Thomas STONHILL and family at the King's Head, Stewkley on the 1851 census. They were also there in 1871 and his widow, Mary STONHILL is at the same address in 1881. BUT where are they in 1861?
Does the Kings Head still exist in Stewkley?
Pat
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Hi Pat
Could this be the family
TAKEN FROM 1864 POST OFFICE DIRECTORY FOR
LEIGHTON BUZZARD
Nathanial Stonhill maltster of North Street
also of The Bull ph High Street.
Take alook at Leighton-Linslade.com as there are others.
I think the Kings Head is now a private house but hubby says he thinks the wording is still there (will have to take the kids for a drive)
Tazzie
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RG9/870 folio 51 p15 Stewkley Dist 17 1861
High Rd Kings Head Inn
Thomas Stonhill HEAD 54 Mar Butcher & farmer b.Yorks Tadcaster
Mary WIFE 40
Nathaniel SON Unm 24 Butcher & (cannot read this bit)
Catherine DAUR Unm 23
Thomas SON Unm 21
Eleanor DAUR Unm19
Emily DAUR 16
Esther DAUR 13 Scholar
Bellinda DAUR 10 Scholar
Maria DAUR 7 Scholar
Richard SON 4
All born Stewkley
Could not find on ordinary search had to trawl the Stewkley census so assume transcibing was a scew whiff.
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Wow, Thanks for that - that's great!
I tried looking through Stewkley myself and failed miserably so thank you for your time.
By using the reference you gave I see that they are indexed under STONKILL.
I'm also interested in the Nathaniel STONHILL at the Bull, especially as Thomas's eldest child was called Nathaniel - there seems to be a connection.
Thanks to you both for your help.
Pat
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Hi Pat
Went to Stewkley today only one pub left in the village and thats the Swan. The Kings Head is now a private house called Kings Head House (no surprise). We took a walk to the church but with two small people in tow it was not easy to look around the graves.We will be going back as my older child wants to take flowers to his grt grandparents .( his only 5 but I thought Id get him interested early )
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie,
Thank you so much for finding the house for me - The STONHILL family were living there for such a long time that I'm glad it's still there - even if no longer a Pub.
Congratulations for instilling an interest in family history into your 5 year old! I hope it lasts.
Thanks again.
Pat
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Pat
Just back from Stewkley and had to tell you about latest find. Along High Street North in the village I found
STONHILL HOUSE...!
I am sure there used to be and old garage business run from here I will ask my mother in law for more info.
TAZZIE
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Hi Tazzie,
There were other members of the STONHILL family in Stewkley. One was an Blacksmith and one a Wheelwright - their premises might easily have been converted into a garage at a later date.
Thank you for your continued interest. If you have any research in the Weston-super-Mare area I'd be happy to reciprocate.
Pat
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Hi Pat.
Just a quick posting you have got to have a look at this site.
www.buckscc.gov.uk/photo_database/
It has 144 photos of Stewkley go to the very bottom of the list and look at the photo headed Wheelwright shop 1900-1920. This is now Stonhill House.
Thanks for the offer but so far my lot are all ag labs in Bucks or carmen in London but if I find a local Ill let you know.
Happy hunting
TAZZIE
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What a marvellous group of photographs - Thanks so much for the link.
You've been very helpful.
I'm very grateful.
Pat
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Hi Pat & Tazzie
(My first time here !)
I am very interested in the STONHILL's from the King's Head.
Thomas & Mary Stonhill's son - Richard Hedges STONHILL - married my Great Grand Aunt Rosa Matilda DICKSON, (dau of William Gibson DICKSON & Elizabeth SNATT), 1884.
1901 Census has Richard & Rosa, their children, and Richard's mother Mary, all at the King's Head :
Address "Kings Head Inn", High Street, Stewkley
Richard STONHILL, 44, 1857, born Bucks Stewkley, Innkeeper & Coach Builder
Rosa STONHILL, 40, 1861, born Herts Hitchin
Violet STONHILL, 15, 1886, born Bucks Stewkley, Dressmakers Apprentice
Cicily STONHILL, 13, 1888, born Bucks Stewkley
Beatrice STONHILL, 7, 1894, born Bucks Stewkley
Laurence STONHILL 3, 1898, born Bucks Stewkley
Mary STONHILL, 79, 1822, born Bucks Stewkley
I have been told that "Laurence owned the garage and petrol pumps in Stewkley, he married Eva, they had a son George who married Margaret, George emigrated to America".
"George & Margaret met at Beverley University". "Laurence's sister Cicely lived in a cottage opposite the garage".
Please can you help with anything about this family, the garage, and more about the Beverley University ?
Rosa's parents and younger siblings came to NZ July 1877 and settled at Halcombe.
Thankyou, Trich
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Good to make contact with you.
Tazzie has the local knowledge and I have been researching the STONHILL family.
Richard Hedges STONHILL was one of 10 children of Thomas STONHILL and Mary HEDGES (on 1871 census her brother, Rev George HEDGES, was staying with them at the King's Head).
My connection with this family is through another of Thomas & Mary's children, Eleanor Mary, who married Robert VINCENT and is the great grandmother of one of my cousins.
Although there were STONHILLs in Stewkley back in the 18th century I am puzzled why Thomas STONHILL appears to have been born in Tadcastle, Yorkshire, in about 1821 - I've not found his parents yet - Have you any suggestions?
Pat
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I am also a little lost on the birthplace of Thomas being Tadcaster, Yorkshire ... maybe that was where his mother's family lived ?
I did find a Thomas Stonhill born 18 Aug 1800, chr 07 March 1826, All Saints, Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, on the IGI.
Son of Nathaniel Stonhill and Mary ... (Batch J003603)
18/6/1863 Nathaniel Stonhill scored 2 runs in a cricket match at Stewkley Cricket Ground.
1864 Directory : Nathaniel Stonhill, maltster of North St & The Bull High St.
Then there is a Nathaniel STONHILL married Ann INGRAM (Born abt. 1781) 14 Dec 1809 at Leighton Buzzard.
They had : Nathaniel chr 17/12/1810, Ann chr 20/8/1812, Susannah chr 6/2/1814, Elizabeth chr 13/1/1816, Frederick born 25/7/1819 chr 11/4/1822, David born 9/3/1822 chr 11/4/1822.
Are these the same Nathaniel ? Did he marry twice ? Was Thomas born 1800 "Our" Thomas ?
How many Nathaniels were there all together ?
Index of the Poll for Knights of the Shire for the County of Bucks
Which began at the Town of Aylesbury, on Wednesday the 21st and ended on Friday the 30th of April, 1784. Richard Scrimpshire, Esq Sherrif.
lists : STONHILL Nathaniel Self Stewkley Cottesloe (occupier of eligible property).
Nothing like a good mystery I guess, regards, Trich
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Hi Pat & Trich.
Just back from a holiday and thought I would add some more to the life of The Kings Head.
On talking to my mother in law her mothers family ran the Bull on the other side of the road but then moved to the Kings Head and ran that pub (small world!!). This would have been 1940s as she remembers going into the Bull as a small child.She also knew the name Stonhill .Any thing I can help with let me know as we live very close to the village.
Try asking at your local library for a copy of Stewkley in Camera vol 1&2.Some lovely old photos .We even found my husbands grandmother Grace Foulkes as a school girl at the village school.
Happy hunting
Tazzie
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Hello. I am Laurence George Stonhill, the grandson of Richard Hedges Stonhill and the son of Laurence Richard Stonhill, born at 78 High St. N, Stewkley.My grandmotherwas Rosa Matilda,daughter of the Rev Bruce Dickson MA, vicar , and my mother Eva (Keen). I married Margaret, of the prominent Nicholls family, and we reside in Oregon. Our childrens families flourish in Oregon, Idaho and Washington States. We did meet in Beverley, which is a fine city with many antiquities (but no University). Within my memory, the Stonhill business of metalworking, blacksmithing and coachmakingwas carried out at the two premises shown in the cited Bucks Co. archive picture. WW 1 and the arrival of motor vehicles led to the declinof the business. Of RH's other children, Violet Blanche and William Nathaniel Dickson went to Rhodesia. Beatrice was the family historian,and compiler of oral tradition.
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Hello Laurence
Welcome to Rootschat. There is a lot of local information on the Stonhill family in Stewkley and in Leighton Buzzard as well. My mother-in-law came from the village and knew the name well.
If you would like any local info looked at please let me know as we are always around the place.
Tazzie
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Hello Laurence. How wonderful to hear from you. I was SO excited ! I have so much I would love to discuss with you. I have been busy with my daughters wedding but am ordering more certificates very soon ... I have a very old fragile paper with pencil writing, which I think was made by Rosa's sister Louise Lorne, listing the family, and the arrival etc in NZ. Louise Lorne & her son Ken seem to have been the family historians in NZ, and their papers have been handed on to me. I will be in touch again soon. Much Regards, Trich Devescovi. (Westport, New Zealand)
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Hi there
I now have Rosa Matilda DICKSON's mge details :
Entry # 161, 1884 Jun qtr, Maldon District, Vol 4a, Page 477
19 April 1884, Richard Hedges Stonhill, age 27, bachelor, coach builder, resident of the Parish of Stewkley, Bucks, son of Thomas Stonhill, butcher, married Rosa Matilda Dickson, age 23, spinster, schoolmistress, resident of this parish, daughter of William Gibson Dickson, farmer, in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, after Banns, by Ralph ?Cluttor?, in the presence of Moses Walter Brown and Elizabeth Cooper, solemnized at The Parish Church, in the Parish of Wicham Bishop in the County of Essex.
but Laurence had :
Rosa Matilda,daughter of the Rev Bruce Dickson MA
Please Laurence, can you get back to me.
Thankyou,
Trich trichduck(at)e3(dot)net(dot)nz
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Hello,
My family and I moved into Stewkley in June 2000, and a few months later the people of Stonehill House moved (if I remember correctly) overseas. It was a garage then, though the people that bought it (Autumn/Winter 2000), used it for residence only. It has changed owners three or four times since then.
Kind regards,
David
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Hello to anyone who may be reading this correspondence, years after it came to an end!
I came across it recently after contacting Trich on Ancestry, regarding Emily Ann Stonhill, who was Thomas Stonhill's daughter and from whom I am descended. It has been fascinating to read all the posts and I have learned a lot. Now, I would be interested to visit the cemetery at Stewkeley and also Stonhill House and Kings Head House, if possible. I have briefly been through the village once before but did not know where to look and was short of time.
I have read that tazzie has much local knowledge and has found Stonhill House and can, no doubt, tell me more. Please acknowledge this tazzie if you read it!
Keith
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Hello Keith,
Glad to hear of another descendant of Thomas STONHILL! It's some time since I looked at this branch - He's my cousin's ancestor. Since I wrote last I have realised that Thomas was married twice - the first time to an Esther who died in 1846 by whom he had 5 children and then as a widower he married Mary HEDGES 19 May 1847 in St Mary Haggerston, Middlesex. By Mary he had a further 5 children. This marriage also confirmed that his father was a Nathaniel STONHILL.
Do you have Esther's maiden name or when & where they married?
Pat
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Hello Pat,
Thanks for your reply; I didn't expect any contact quite so soon, if at all!
Strangely, when I was in contact with Trich, she asked me the same question-i.e. who was Esther Hedges mother? I'm afraid I don't know either, but according to Trich, Esther Hedges married Thomas Stonhill in 1835 (although it's not apparent from her notes on what information this is based).
This branch of the family tree has been very difficult and confusing to understand, and I have left it for the time being hoping that more records will appear on Ancestry which will help. In the meantime, I was hoping to visit Stewkeley and possibly learn a little bit more.
Trich mentioned to me that "There is another lady (or 2) in NZ researching HEDGES as well. I will see if I can make contact again ....." so I may try to contact her for any news!
Regards,
Keith
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Hi all ....
Sorry been offline for a few days as computer has been raided by trojans.
Now all well I can respond. My husbands family lived in Stewkley so know the village well and live very close by now.
They also have links to the Bull and the Kings head which are opposite each other near the church in the middle of the village. The Bull became the library and was sold recently the Kings Head is now a private house.
Stewkley in Camera was published a few years ago now but you may be able to find a copy on the internet for sale. Has great photo's of the village and the people.
Let me know how I can help. Big family of Hedges in the village to look into.
Tazzie
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Thanks Tazzie,
I now have a fairly good idea where to look next time I visit Stewkley, although this won't be for a while yet.
It's a pity that the old photos of Stewkley can no longer be viewed on the web address you gave on 12 August 2005, but I shall try to find some others. I would have liked to have seen a picture of The Kings Head (as it was originally), if one exists.
Regards
Keith
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I am looking for information on Ester Hannah Stonhill who married William Bowden any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have an Esther Hannah STONHILL as the daughter of Thomas & Mary STONHILL - born about 1848 in Stewkley would this be who you are looking for?
Pat
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Yes this would fit in with what I know, my grandmother Eleanor Maude Stonhill Bowden was born in August 1890 and died at the age of 26, according to my records Ester Hannah and William Bowden had 7 or 8 children. I know that my grandmother Eleanor spent time in Stewkley as we have a photograph of her taken outside of what looks like a farm. I now live in the USA and during a visit to London this summer we did drive to Stewkley to see if we could find the farm or anyone who knew the Bowden family without success and we visited the church. On a Real Estate board in the village I found a telephone number for Ian Bowden and called and spoke to him but he told me his family was not from that area. Any information on the Stonhill or Bowden family would be much appreciated.
Patricia
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This information is fascinating. My mother is Mary Patricia Stonhill Peters (1923-Living) Marysville, Michigan USA. Her father, John (1877-1949), came to Port Huron, Michigan (1923-1949) via Ontario, Canada (1903-1923) and previously, born and raised in Islington, England. His father is Thomas Stonhill, son of Thomas and Esther Stonhill. His mother is Elizabeth King Sear. Any more information on the Stonhill family in Stewkley is appreciated.
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In researching family history on my mothers side of the family she is connected to the Stonhill's I discovered that Thomas Stonhill was first married to Ester Hedges Stonhill they had 5 children and she died in 1846 one son was named Thomas born about 1840, his second wife was Mary Elizabeth Hedges who also seems to have had 5 children. If this is help to you I will try and go through my notes which I started on last year and see what I can find out. I think that my mother's grandmother was Ester Hannah Stonhill who was from the second marriage, married William Bowden my grand father. Interestingly many of the Bowden/Stonhill family are buried in Highgate Cemetery in London. Please let me know if this helps.