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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Limerick => Topic started by: AsH62 on Saturday 05 December 15 01:00 GMT (UK)
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Hi. Find My Past have put up some new records that may finally solve an old riddle. Dad's great uncle Benjamin Hepburn 1861-1903 left Scotland in about 1897 under a bit of a cloud. In 1911 he was living in Waterford where he died in 1903. He was buried in Kilmacow, Waterford and his family returned to Scotland. In the probate records ( it seems that his will doesn't exist any more) he was a timekeeper on the railway but he and his father had always been land stewards. The new records put his children in the school at Corbally and describe Benjamin's job as 'Steward', finally this fits and is very exciting. Please can anyone tell me if they know which estate he may have worked on in Corbally or where to find these records. I am close to breaking down an enormous brick wall! It does mention Rockforest but I am not sure what that is.
Thank you
Alison
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for reference
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Urban_No__5/Thomas_Street/1763228/
Will index
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014913/005014913_00376.pdf
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Rockforest
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=3424
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Hi
Why is this message on Limerick board if the Corbally in question is in Waterford?
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Hi. Thank you all so much, I am so excited and now have some information that I can follow up, I really appreciate all your help.
Benjamin died in Waterford and I hadn't been able to find out what happened between Scotland and Waterford but now these records have turned up I know that he was in Corbally, Limerick before he went to Waterford which is why I asked the question on this board. Is there a Corbally in Waterford as well?
Alison
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There is at least 16 townlands with Corbally in the name.
3 Civil Parishes
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I have a lot to learn, thank you. This is pretty much the first time any of my family have been found in Ireland and it is a steep learning curve but i am enjoying it.
Thanks for taking the time to help
Alison
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Can you give us more info on the school.
I'm assuming it was COI
Did both the boys and girls attend?
Was there any other name other than Corbally?
What dates were they there?
I just wonder if his occupation refers to his job in Scotland before he found employments in Ireland.
If he did work in Rockforest it can't have been for very long.
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Hi. This is the information about the school from Find My Past
Ben
Last name Hepburn
Denomination Church of Ireland
Age 14
Birth year 1885
Year 1899
School Corbally
Roll number 13499
Parish Corbally
Parent/guardian occupation Steward
Residence Rockforest
County Tipperary
Archive National Archives of Ireland
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from Ireland
It was a mixed school because both Benjamin's two sons and two daughter's went there.It's interesting that they are Church of Ireland, he must have changed them because they were Church of Scotland a few years earlier. Benjamin lost his job as factor at the estate of Sir Thomas Buchan Hepburn in East Lothian due to financial mismanagement and I hadn't thought that he might just be giving his previous job instead of one he actually had. I am trying to work out what took him to Ireland when I can't see any connections or family there. If he got the job as steward then he must have hidden his previous problems. His first wife died in 1894 and he remarried in 1897 in Scotland. I assume he left Scotland after his marriage and in 1901 he was still getting legal trouble about money and one Scottish newspaper article about his insolvency it said that he had been in Roscrea.
I love having these Irish place names in my tree even if Benjamin wasn't there long.
Alison
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Apart from Rockforest estate I posted above, part of it would be Rockforest townland which is in the Civil Parish of Corbally Poor Law Union of Roscrea County Tipperary.
So they probably never lived in Limerick.
Just need to check out the school a bit more.
Church of Ireland, Church of Scotland would essentially be the same.
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This looks possible
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=TN®no=22401809
It's not far from Rockforest.
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That's incredible, thank you for all of this. I have got reasonably proficient at records in England and Scotland but am having to play catch up in Ireland. This is a stunning building.
A
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I'm not sure if that school is RC or COI.
Have a look at http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/
I'm on iPad and it doesn't work very well, but it's fine on a PC.
Use the Search
Choose County Tipperary
Than Historic Parish Corbally
There are several Schools in the parish some marked as RC, I assume any not marked as RC are COI
You can also find Rockforest townland using townland search.
I think I spotted a Rockforest house.
You can look at different time periods using the 6" 25" etc in Preview Map Series box.
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Thank you again, I have spent the afternoon poring over maps of the area and I am getting a much better idea of where everything is. I love it when something sparks off a whole new area of research!
Back to the maps
Alison