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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: reh1950 on Sunday 06 December 15 14:47 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am looking for any information on Fanny Rose Smith (nee Dewson). She was born in Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England in 1854. I think she emigrated sometime after 1901.Her son Cecil Thomas joined the Canadian overseas expeditionary force in Feb. 1917. According to the attestation paper Cecil was a farmer and they lived in Umphrey P.O. Saskatchewan. His brothers, Harry Lawson Smith and Frank Maxwell Smith also emigrated to Canada. They are also on the 1921 census. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.
Regards
reh1950
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Declaration of Intention USA - Harry Lawson Smith - born 15 January 1885 Kings Lynn Norfolk - arrived 1921 - agricultural worker - issue date 24 September 1936 - Southern District, Central Division, Los Angeles, California, District Court.
Last foreign residence Vancouver BC - Entered USA Blaine Washington 7 June 1921
Orig Doc has photograph attached.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KX3T-PJV
Sandra
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California Death Index Harry L Smith - 15 January 1885 other country - passed away 11 October 1976 - Riverside California.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VGTP-SFD
Sandra
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USA - WW2 Draft - Harry Lawson Smith - 15 January 1885
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-363W-T7
Sandra
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City Camp Primrose Avenue Lindsay, Tulare, California 1940
Harry L Smith 55 Born England. Single. Naturalized.
Frank M Smith 53 Born England. Single. Brother. Naturalized.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MT-64ZR
Sandra
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US Naturalization for Frank Maxwell Smith - with photograph - born 10 January 1887 KIngs Lynn Norfolk - single Declaration of Intention - 24 Sep 1936 - Southern District, Central Division, Los Angeles, California, District Court. Last residence - Fusilier Sask - immigrated from Vancouver BC - entered USA at Seattle Washington - 16 April 1924 Cann Pac Rwy Boat.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KX3T-PXW
Sandra
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US Social Security App and Claims Index - Frank Maxwell Smith born 10 January 1887 - father Henry Smith Mother Fanny R Dewson
robably) Frank M Smith passed away 18 July 1945 Sonoma California. Mothers Maiden Name Dewson - Father Smith.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPCL-LSC
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
Many thanks for all this information. and so quick!
Harry and Frank also had a sister Alice Dewson Smith - the surname was correctly transcribed.
She was married to Edward Arthur Thurlow. Alice died in LA, Caifornia in 1939. So I guess that's why the brothers ended up there. They had a son Woodrow Eaton Thurlow, he was born in Alaska in 1926 and died in LA in 2005.
Any information on Fanny Rose would be fantastic.
Regards
reh1950
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US Border crossing Canada to USA - Fannie Rose Smith born 1857 - Kingslynn, England - aged 67 years - Port of Arrival - 15 April 1924 - Washington, USA
Going to daughter Kate L Smith 515 a Natona St San Francisco California. Accompanied by son Frank M Smith. Last residence Umphrey - purpose to visit.
Free 1916 Census of Saskatchewan
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1916/Pages/1916.aspx
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMP6-TJ9
Sandra
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There is a possible death showing on the California Death Index - Fanny R Smith - born about 1855 and aged 87 years - passed away 25 February 1939 - Los Angeles, California.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L1S2-9K8N
FIND A GRAVE
Fanny Rose Smith
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gmb/
Suspect husband Henry Smith passed away quarter 3 - Sept 1892 - Kings Lynn - 4 b 196 - aged 39 years.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE has an entry for Alice D. Thurlow - passed away 18 October 1939
Burial Rose Hills Memorial Park Whittier Los Angeles County California.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKS9-J51R
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGV-NSJM
Sandra
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Not sure if there are 2 Fanny Rose Smiths but I have found:
1891 UK census:
1891 England Census:
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 39
Fanny R Smith 37
Kate L Smith 9
Alice D Smith 7
Harry L Smith 6
Frank M Smith 4
Reginald Smith 2
Cecil T Smith 8/12
I then believe I have the same Fanny Rose as widow in 1901 & 1911 as a lodging house keeper in New Nunstanton:
1901 census
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny R Smith 44
Edith M Smith 8
Reginald A Smith 12
Martha M Smith 74
Henry J H Tillyard 19
Still there in 1911 with just Edith
I then found a Canada Passenger list:
Name: Fanny Rose Smith
Gender: Female
Age: 55
Birth Year: abt 1857
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: Apr 1912
Vessel: Scotian
Search Ship Database: Search for the Scotian in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Says she is going to her son (a Farmer) to be his housekeeper.
1921 Canada census:
Household Members:
Name Age
William George Smith 39 Son (Farmer)
Fany Rose Smith 66 Mother widow
Alice Smith 36 daughter
Edith May Smith 26 daughter
Amil Goltz 22 employee
The only possible problem is that the 1911 Fanny says she had 7 children of which 7 were still alive in 1911 - but if the Fanny Rose Smith on the 1891 census is the same person it looks like she had 8 children (with the son in Canada on the 1921 census and Edith born 1895?
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South La Vern Ave. Montebello, Los Angeles, California 1930
Fanni R Smith 74 Born England. Widowed. Imm 1923. Alien.
Kathryn L Smith 47 Born England. Single. Daughter. Imm 1921. Alien. Waitress.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR4F-N7B
Sandra
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Kate Lawson Smith born 21 October 1881 King's Lynn, England - petition for naturalization 24 June 1940 - Central District of California - last residence Fusilier BC - Entered USA Seattle Washington 12/1/1923 - declared intention 20/11/1937
dated 24 June 1940 US District Court Southern Division of California.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-F43S-C9
Sandra
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1916 Canada Census
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Lawson Smith 30
Fanny Rivers Smith 61
Frank Maxwel Smith 29
Home in 1916: 30, Kindersley, Saskatchewan
Address: 32, 27, W3, Antelope Park
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Kate Smith - 21 Oct 1881 - other country - passed away 15 Aug 1944 - Los Angeles - mothers Maiden name Dawson - father Smith
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPQD-NZ6
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Kate Lawson Smith - passed away 15 August 1944 -
Burial - Rose Hills Memorial Park Whittier Los Angeles County California
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=132160586&ref=acom
Sandra
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S La Verne Montebello, Los Angeles, California 1940
Kate Smith 58 Born 1882 England. Single. Candy Maker. Has first papers. Lived in same house 1935
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9MT-DZGT
Sandra
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Fanny Rose Smith gravestone:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Smith&GSfn=Fanny+&GSmn=R&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1939&GSdyrel=in&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=131933478&df=all&
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http://www.myheritage.com/names/fanny_dewson
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Daughter Edith May Smith must have married someone with the surname Jones. Edith Jones appears on the 1940 census with Edward Thurlow and son Woodrow.
Edward A Thurlow 59 Born England. Naturtalized. Widowed. Salesman Driver.
Woodrow E Thurlow 13 Born Alaska.
Edith M Jones 47 Born England. Sister-in-law. Widowed. Naturalized.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9MT-JS6X
Sandra
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WW2 Draft for Edward Arthur Thurlow
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V4D6-8GH
Sandra
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Edward A Thurlow - 22 October 1880 passed away 27 May 1967 Los Angeles California
Mother's Maiden Name Chaplyn - Last Residence 90240 Downey, Los Angeles, California.
Listed as Arthur on FIND A GRAVE
Burial Artesia Cemetery Cerritos Los Angeles County California.
Plot:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=THU&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSsr=441&GRid=10226860&
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=10226860&PIpi=2306405
Sandra
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Just in case you haven't seen it
FIND A GRAVE
Woodrow Eaton Thurlow -
Burial Riverside National Cemetery Riverside Riverside County
California. Plot: 49A 0 717
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82533451&ref=acom
also listed on US Veterans Gravesites. RD2 US Navy Korea. Last Residence 90240 Downey, Los Angeles, California.
Sandra
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Edith May Smith - Edith May Jones - born 12 May 1892 England. Spouse - Edmund Pryse Jones
Petition for naturalization - Southern District, Central Division, Los Angeles, California, District Court
19 September 1938 - Edith arrived 1918 -
Edith married Edmund Pryce Jones 1 st May 1924 San Pedro California. Edmund was born Duffryn Wales 20 April 1889 ane entered USA - New York - 22 October 1910 - Last foreign residence was Fusilier Sask. Entered USA Seattle Washington 7 November 1918 on the Princess Victoria.
Dated 19 September 1938
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-F8YZ-K
Sandra
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Bay View Ave Los Angeles, California 1930
Edmund P Jones 39 Born Eng. Im 1910. Naturalized. Truck Driver Transfer. Working on own account.
Edith M Jones 36 Born Eng. Imm 1918. First Papers.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R4H-8NZ
Sandra
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California Death Index - Edmund P Jones - passed away 1939 - aged 50 years - California
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKS9-Q1F3
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Edmund Pryse Jones - passed away 12 May 1939
Burial - Rose Hills Memorial Park Whittier Los Angeles County California.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=135454515&ref=acom
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
This has been fantastic. Thank you so much for your help.
It's greatly appreciated.
regards
reh1950
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You're very welcome, hope the pieces of the jig-saw are fitting together. ;)
Regards
Sandra
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Hi reh1950,
I've seen several names posted through out this thread and when they died.
Alice D Thurlow -1939
Fanny Rose Smith -1939
Edmund P Jones -1939
Kate Lawson Smith -1944
Here are the death certificates for all these individuals, this should verify and tie together everything that's been posted.
Kate Lawson Smith: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kwl/
Edmund P Jones: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kwm/
Alice D Thurlow (DC in poor condition) : http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kwn/
Fanny Rose Smith: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kwo/
There are several pages/images of amendments & corrections for Fanny Rose Smith. Be sure to advance to all images from Image: 2212 - Image:2217
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kwp/