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Research in Other Countries => Immigrants & Emigrants - General => Topic started by: Phenmark on Monday 07 December 15 16:41 GMT (UK)
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Merry Christmas!
If you know the Massachusetts town in which your ancestor settled, I will happily search for his Record of Naturalization in the "U.S New England Petititions for Naturalization (1787-1906)". Please provide as much info as you can. These records can be quite a treasure, as the petitioner's county of origin is often provided, and in many cases their townland as well. Not to mention his signature! Please keep in mind that only men applied for citizenship during that time.
Steve
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Merry Christmas Steve & thank you for your very kind offer.
Morris SCHLOSS, born April 1871, Poznan, Poland.
According to the Naturalization Record Index he was naturalized June 7th 1897, living in Chelsea, Boston, Massachusetts.
I would love to know if the Petitions give any more information.
:)
Betty
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Hi Betty,
Found it!
Would you like me to PM you a copy?
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I would love a copy, thank you, I'll pm you my email address.
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Copies received OK, thank you so much.
I didn't expect to get any more info on Morris, so to have this, especially with his signature, is a real bonus, like an early Christmas present ;D
Betty
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Copies received OK, thank you so much.
I didn't expect to get any more info on Morris, so to have this, especially with his signature, is a real bonus, like an early Christmas present ;D
Betty
Happy to have been helpful.
Merry Christmas!
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I am sure your generous offer will be of great assistance to researchers.
You, or someone else, might be able to answer my questions please. I am not being tedious here - have a genuine interest to know -
All immigrants to USA, from any country, would be aliens until they were naturalised?
Did a USA national woman forfeit citizenship on her marriage to alien husband, and so might need to apply for citizenship on death of that husband?
Did an alien woman acquire USA citizenship on her marriage to USA national husband?
My questions relate to marriage in USA only, not in other countries.
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Until around 1920 a woman would have automatically acquired her husband's citizenship upon marriage (which is how my U.S. born great-aunt became a Turkish citizen when she married an Armenian immigrant even though she'd never even left the state where she was born).
This collection does seem to be online-
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2064580/
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Interestingly enough, I came across 2 Naturalization certs last night granted in 1831 to Hannah Hills from Rochester, Kent and Sarah Leavitt, Isle of Thanet. The records are from the same day (13 Sep 1831)
They are sisters, both women's father is named as Joseph Hill (who, incidentally, naturalized on the same day, his record precedes Hannah's in the set), and the witnesses of both women are the same men, one being a George Hill.
Sarah is married to Jonathan Leavitt, "from Boston." So, obviously, women were granted citizenship separately from their husbands, it was just not common for them to petition for such. I am not sure if Jonanthan was a U.S. citizen.
These are the only 2 women I have come across in this collection. I have looked at upwards of 4,000 records.
Here are the links. You can browse between these 3 records and further discern their relationships.
Hannah: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9946-7PNV?i=132&wc=MK56-N35%3A1054679701%2C1055332501%2C1055335401%2C1055336601&cc=2064580
Sarah: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G946-7R32?i=135&wc=MK56-N35%3A1054679701%2C1055332501%2C1055335401%2C1055336601&cc=2064580
Joseph: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G946-7R7Y?i=129&wc=MK56-N35%3A1054679701%2C1055332501%2C1055335401%2C1055336601&cc=2064580
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This gives the history of the US laws regarding women and naturalization - http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1998/summer/women-and-naturalization-1.html
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such a nice offer Steve
I'm afraid I don't have much information but
Russian born Joseph Landman sg aged 20 travelled from Liverpool
to stay with his brother Israel Landman in Southbridge (wife's maiden name may be Fellman)
(from other thread ; there's a Joseph in manhatten in 1902 + naturalised in NY aged 50 )which is probably mine
but come across Israel Landsman's naturalisations I'd love to have more info .
thanks , Brigid
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but come across Israel Landsman's naturalisations I'd love to have more info .
thanks , Brigid
Hi Brigid,
Are you looking for Israel's record?
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Phenmark i'm interested in knowing if Israel's wife is my ggfather's sister presumably naturalization will give her name
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Phenmark i'm interested in knowing if Israel's wife is my ggfather's sister presumably naturalization will give her name
Brigid,
Unfortunately, I've yet to see the maiden name of a wife given on a U.S. Naturalization Record. I could not locate a record from Mass. but I did find one for an Israel Landman in Brookyln NY, born 1893. His wife is Sima, 2 daughters, Gertrude & Taube.
You can PM your email address if you would like me to send it to you.
Steve
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Phenmark i'm interested in knowing if Israel's wife is my ggfather's sister presumably naturalization will give her name
Brigid,
Unfortunately, I've yet to see the maiden name of a wife given on a U.S. Naturalization Record. I could not locate a record from Mass. but I did find one for an Israel Landman in Brookyln NY, born 1893. His wife is Sima, 2 daughters, Gertrude & Taube.
You can PM your email address if you would like me to send it to you.
Steve
Not sure this is the connection you might be looking for Brigid. This Israel was born in Dunajow Poland 20 October 1893 and married in Poland 20 October 1920 Brzezany Poland. You are loking for someone born much earlier.
Sandra
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Hi Phenmark, if you could please look up my ggg grandfathers naturalization record?
Patrick Pierce, naturalized Boston USDC, May 6, 1859
Thank you so much. Sheila
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Hi Phenmark, if you could please look up my ggg grandfathers naturalization record?
Patrick Pierce, naturalized Boston USDC, May 6, 1859
Thank you so much. Sheila
Hi Sheila,
Got it!
If you PM your email address to me, I'll send it along.
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I've sent it along! Again thank you so much. Sheila
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Thank you to folks who responded to my enquiry about the matter of naturalisation qualifications. This information suits my purpose very well.
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thanks so much phen am mtg a new fellman cousin hopefully in 2016 so he may understand the Fellman/landsman connection better .
sorry not re reading all (eye strain )
but did someone say women didn't get naturalization docs .// what if widowed
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thanks so much phen am mtg a new fellman cousin hopefully in 2016 so he may understand the Fellman/landsman connection better .
sorry not re reading all (eye strain )
but did someone say women didn't get naturalization docs .// what if widowed
Hi Brigid,
Women could be naturalized, although it was uncommon.
I got to thinking, another form of the name Israel is Jacob. I found a naturalization of a Jacob Landsman, wife Fannie in Revere Mass. He was born in Riga, Russia, arrived (from Southampton, Eng) in NY, 1905.
If it's something you'd like to look at, I'll send it along.
Steve