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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: a chesters on Wednesday 09 December 15 05:06 GMT (UK)
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I have a problem with the Wanless family arrival in Australia.
I have father John,49, mother Sarah, 41, children Mary, 18, Sarah, 12, Emily, 10, John, 9, Thomas 8 and Florence 5.
They arrived on the Northampton on either 12 Jan 1879 or 7 Nov 1881 as according to New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896, and
Persons on bounty ships to Sydney, Newcastle, and Moreton Bay (Board's Immigrant Lists); Series: 5317; Reel: 2492
In 1879, the whole family is listed together, but Mary and Sarah are included subsequently into the family group.
In 1881 Mary and Sarah are listed separately, at the end of the passenger list.
Name: John Wanless
Birth Year: abt 1832
Age: 47
Arrival Date: 12 Jan 1879
Vessel Name: Northampton
Name: Sarah Wanless
Birth Year: abt 1869
Age:12
Gender: Female
Arrival Date: 7 Nov 1881
Vessel Name: Northampton
I have not located any British incoming passenger lists with the family on them, and as a result, am wondering which is correct.
Is there anyone out there who could point me in the right direction as to which one is correct?
A Chesters
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This looks like a birth to the couple.
6800/1881 WANLESS Edward S
Parents John & Sarah
At PADDINGTON
It was registered in the first fortnight of February 1881
Sue
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Sue, Thank you very much for that.
I simply could not find much information about them, after probably trying too hard ::) ::)
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Was John connected with steam boats before immigration?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13447178
In this 1879 article, a man of the name is a witness in an inquiry into a steamboat accident.
A waterman is his occupation.
Sue
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A look at the original record and yes, John was a waterman.
I also note on the record showing vessel Northampton headed as arriving 1881, I do note a death on the page which is recorded as occurring on 9th November 1878 :P ???
Sue
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Hi there,
January 1879 arrival has been transcribed as Warless ::)
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1879/01/027nor.htm scroll down and find the links to the images :)
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1879/01/media/027nor4.jpg I am sure it reads WANLESS :)
John and Sarah as Adults and then the next 4 are together as X 4 :) Emily, John, Thomas and Florence.
Cheers, JM
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http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316
Cheers, JM
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Thank you both for that information.
Sue, in both the 1861 and the 1871 census, John is listed as a waterman. It was the lack of the 1881 census that I started looking further. I will follow the information on Trove further, where posible, and also the Sands information.
JM Thank you very much for those links. I am very grateful to all the Rootschatters for their help and interest in other peoples queries
AC
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Hi
As you had not known about the birth of Edward WANLESS to John and Sarah in 1881, I wondered whether you might like to see his marriage and a child.
11677/1909 WANLESS Edward S
STAPLETON Sarah C
At MARRICKVILLE
35209/1910 WANLESS Robert E
Parents Edward S & Sarah C
At ANNANDALE
Edward died.
31346/1959 WANLESS Edward Swinburn
Parents John & Sarah
at GOSFORD
John WANLESS death-
9110/1890 WANLESS John
Parents Edward & Sarah
At NEWTOWN
It is interesting to note he drowned in a boating accident in 1890
The initial for his name as I see it, appears to be H. (I cannot see the entire text of the article today), but it would be an newspaper error. Should be J.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/113750531
EDITED Incorrect information
A funeral notice was placed for 1st Feb 1890
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28277236
In Memoriam.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/113755577
Sue
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Sue, the boating accident occurred in October 1890 (many months after his funeral). And the H Wanless on the boat did not drown - it was another man.
Ros :)
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Sue, the boating accident occurred in October 1890 (many months after his funeral). And the H Wanless on the boat did not drown - it was another man.
Ros :)
Ros,
You're quite right!
A careless leap to wrong conclusion on my part.
I think I will strike through to save confusion.
Sue
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The Wanless family are well known in Queensland for their Scrap Metal business (since the 1960s that I know of) and then they expanded into Waste Management.
Google the name.
Don't know if any of the family are still in management.
My OH used to know one of the family (Scrap Metal) - I'll ask him when he returns from his current country soujourn. :P :P :) :)
Dawn M
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Once again, many thanks for your help.
Sue, I had not got to following the family in NSW, as I was still trying to sort out their movements after the 1871 census. I will of course be doing so now that I know they migrated, with your information.
Dawn M, thank you for that information. As I said above, I have not yet looked at Australia for them, but will do so now. It would be very interesting to see if there is any connection between my Wanless, and the QLD ones, as the Wanless are a side shoot from my direct line, but all are interesting.
Just had a quick Google, and it looks like they are quite an enterprising lot.
Again, many thanks for all your help.
AC