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Research in Other Countries => Immigrants & Emigrants - General => Topic started by: brigidmac on Wednesday 09 December 15 18:05 GMT (UK)
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My great great grandmother was Edith Geis Landman/Landsman
b1850 in Riga Russian/latvia
married Lazurus-Mendel Fellman
in 1868
They had 12 children (2 died in infancy)
1888 she died giving birth to her 12th child who died unbaptised
in 1889 Samuel remarries to SHEINA LANDSMAN b approx 1865 daughter of RUVIN could be a younger sister ??
she had 2 children Taube + Khaya before coming to GB around 1890
and 4 more in Manchester : only 3 survived Khaya ( Mathilda/Tilly. ) Golda/gertrude + Esther
The Landsman spelling seems quite rare
there are only a few families in mancheter area with this spelling in the 1890's
I'd like to know how + If Geiss-Eida(Edith) + sheina (jane ) are related to
the following people
1876 Abraham Landsman who married Annie Cohen 17/6/96
the same day + as Geis-Eida's eldest daughter Rebecca Fellman married Benjamin Bloch
Abrahamin 1901 was aged 26
he + Annie stayed in Prestwich/Manchester area til at least 1911
+ had at least 5 children
but who were his siblings + parents
1900 march JO or Geo (joseph /George ?)aged 20 on SS Estruria from Liverpool to New York
with Bernd fellman aged 24 both travellers they may have been cousins
going to stay in Southbridge
to stay with ?? Landsmann illeg could be a G or Frank ...I need his name to look in Latvian records to see if his father was Ruvin
can anyone throw any light on this ? Thanks in advance
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New York Passenger List Liverpool to New York on the Etruria arriving 11 March 1900
Bernard Fellman aged 24 years - single - traveller - Russian - last residence Liverpool - resident - looks like the person he was going to was ?????? cousin Israel Landsman
Person below him is Joseph Landman aged 20 years - single -traveller - Russian - last residence Liverpool - going to Southbridge to join brother I Landman &sister ???
There is a Landman family in Southbridge Massachusetts in 1900
Michael B Landman 37 Born Russia
Bertha Landman 35 Born Russia
Max Landman 9 Born Conn
Abye Landman 8 Born Conn
Lena Landman 7 Born Conn
Fannie Landman 5 Born Conn
Gertie Landman 2 Born MA
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9BW-5MT
Max is Max Israel Landman born 15 June 1891 Norwich Conn.
Max appears on FIND A GRAVE
1891 - 1986
Burial: Temple Beth-El Cemetery Hornell Steuben County New York
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=landman&GSiman=1&GScid=66457&GRid=76542280&
Sandra
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Just in case it proves to be a link - here is the same Landman family thru census
Bertha widowed in 1910
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5WC-5B7
1920 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJLT-GFV
1930 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7ZB-MFC
1940 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3YD-B1W
Sandra
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Thanks so much Sandra ..you've come up trumps again
unfortunately my browser isnt compatible with family search and wont let me look at those images for now . I'll try in Library this weekend
Meanwhile i'll try and remember how to do the Russian research on Jewishgen .
or Raduraksti
It is likely that Israel and or Michael B LANDMAN are siblings to Bernard FELLMAN.s Mother Geis-ada(Edith) and his step-mum/Aunt Seina/Jane
I wonder where Isreal l Landman was in 1901 his wife should be born between 1868 and1870 if she is the missing Fellman elder sister
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CONNECTIONS TO SOUTHBRIDGE <MASS USA LANDMAN FAMILIES
there is a Yosel-Leib baby who died 1899 son of Mikhel
could this be the Michael B Landsman ? is Yosel a version of Israel ?
An Azriel Landsman had a baby who died in 1869 sounds similar ; this could be Southbridge Israel
1891/06/20 Israel Landman on SS Gellot
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CONNECTION TO MY FAMILY
Latvian Landsman
from 1870 Electoral Rolls
Ruben LANDMAN aged 38,
father Marcus 55
Jonte 36
David 30
Zallel 19
Taube
Golda
Esther-l
judith
Elke
female ages + relation to others in household not given
but names Taube,Golde+ ester turn up in future generations maybe Our Edith+Sana named girls after their sisters
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Came across a 1930 Census for Graham Avenue Brooklyn, Kings, New York with a Joseph Landsman who says he immigrated in 1900 ??? Possibility to bear in mind.
Joseph Landsman 50 Born 1880 Russia. Imm 1900. Butcher. Naturalized. Married at age 20.
Katherine Landsman 50 Born 1880 Russia. Imm 1900. Naturalized.
Philip Landsman 21 Born NY
Sidney Landsman 18 Born NY
Barbara Landsman 12 Born NY
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4J8-MNV
Sandra
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Under Lundsman in 1910 Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York. Immigration date varying ::) (but that is not unusual)
Joseph Lundsman 30 Born Russia. Marriage 1 for 9 years. Imm 1898. Alien. Butcher. Proprieter.
Kate Lundsman 29 Born Russia. Had 4 children and 4 survive.
Rosie Lundsman 7 Born NY
Iwa Lundsman 6 Born NY
Harry Landsman 3 Born NY
Philip Landsman 6 months. Born NY
Lillie Hilinger 19 Born NY
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HX-5JY
1920 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJYZ-1C5
Sandra
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The marriage record for Joseph above to Katie Lerner 21 January 1902 Manhattan shows his father was Herry (probably Henry) Landman and Jane Fresman.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24SP-NZ9
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra ...that could well be him .
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DNA links my mother to two men by 102 cm + 97 cm who are descended from anna landsman born 1860 who married Isaac Bloomberg b1861 Jacobstadt
If Ann is sister of her great grandmother geis Ada
Following lines.down they would be 2nd cousin once removed +
3rd.cousin respectively
Or Ann landsman could be more distant
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CONNECTION TO MY FAMILY
Latvian Landsman
from 1870 Electoral Rolls
Can now add information
Ruben LANDMAN aged 38,
father Marcus 55
Jonte 36. # brother
David 30. Brother
Zallel 19 # brother
Taube 1st wife b 1835
Golda # davids wife nee ISREAL B 1846
Esther-l. #Mother b 1816
judith # sister b 1840?
Elke # sister :B 1860 M IZREAI BEREN
female ages + relation to others in household not given
but names Taube,Golde+ ester turn up in future generations maybe Our Edith+Sana named girls after their sisters