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Title: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 12 December 15 14:05 GMT (UK)
Can  anyone help with Judith`s family . Thanks

Family Search . Judith Owen married Jared Nicholson in 1816 at Holyhead .
Family Search. Judith Owen bapt 26 Sep 1794 Holyhead.  No parents named.

1851 Holyhead
Jared Nicholson    58
Judith Nicholson   58

In 1864 there is newspaper article from which I find her mother’s name is Emma and Emma  is still alive.

These are they only Emma`s  I can find, but surely these would be too young to have been Judith`s mother.

Deaths Mar 1869  Owen  Emma  75  Bangor 

1851
William Owen  63 Llanfairnewbwll, Anglesey
 Emma 65 Holyhead, Anglesey
1871
William Owen  82 Llanfairyneubwll, Anglesey
 Emma Owen   84 Holyhead, Anglesey c 1787.


Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 14:48 GMT (UK)
FindMyPast (images)
Judeth, daughter of John Owen, sailor and Mary, Holyhead, bap 26 Sep 1794
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 15:06 GMT (UK)
Re the "Emma, mother in law" in the newspaper article, might Jared Jnr (born 1833) have married an Owen/s?

see Anglesey marriages, Sep Qtr 1863.
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 12 December 15 15:25 GMT (UK)
Images again - marriage - 25 October 1816 - Jared Nicholson and Judith Owen (x) BOTP by Banns - witnesses:  Owen Hughes and John N....y
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 12 December 15 15:43 GMT (UK)
Re the "Emma, mother in law" in the newspaper article, might Jared Jnr (born 1833) have married an Owen/s?

see Anglesey marriages, Sep Qtr 1863.

Look like you are right .
In Sept qtr 1863  Jared Nicholson  married  Jane Owens in Anglesey.

I think this must be him, his sister Ellen had also moved to Liverpool.
His ages are inconsistent though.

1871  Birkenhead. Wrong name and age for Jared.
Issac  / Jared Nicholson 30 labourer b Holyhead
Jane Nicholson 25 b Holyhead
Jane Nicholson 5 b Holyhead

1881 Liverpool.  17 years older than Jane so born c 1832, this is a closer match to 1841 when he is 8.
2 Mann St, Toxteth.
Jared Nicholson  49 dock labourer b Holyhead
 Jane Nicholson  32 b Holyhead
 Jane Nicholson  15 b Holyhead
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 16:26 GMT (UK)
Re "Judeth, bap 26 Sep 1794, Holyhead, parents John Owen, sailor and Mary" I can see 1 marriage "Holyhead" -

John Owen & Mary Prichard were married July 21 1778 (It's as basic as that - no other info)

Baptism "Holyhead"

Lewis, son of John Owen, sailor by Mary his wife, bap May 1 1779

Will check Holyhead baptisms 1779-1794 to see how long this couple continued to "produce"!! 
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 16:54 GMT (UK)
Re. children born to "John Owen, sailor and Mary at Holyhead"

Margaret Oct 28th 1780, William Dec 30th 1783, Ellin Apr 11 1788, Ellin Jan 26th 1790, Owen Nov 18 1792

Yet to complete check   
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 16:59 GMT (UK)
Re "Ellin, bap Apr 11 1789"

Burials, Holyhead "Ellin Owen, a child, was buried Aug 18", 1789

Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 17:04 GMT (UK)
The final baptism I can spot is "William Owen, bap Aug 22 1791"
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 12 December 15 17:38 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 12 December 15 19:04 GMT (UK)
Going back to Jane Owens /Jared  Nicholson jnr
The only census I can find with a mother named Emma is this. I can`t find the family before or after. 
Are you able to confirm this is the correct family.

1851 Mill St Holyhead , all b Holyhead
 Owen Owens  45
 Emma Owen  44
 Elizabeth Owen  23
 William Owen  11
Jane Owen  5

Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 20:18 GMT (UK)
Jared Jnr + family
1861   RG09  4373  26  12

Baptism
Oct 6 1845  Jane Owens, father Owen, labourer, mother Emma, abode Mill Street, Holyhead
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 20:21 GMT (UK)
Jane + Emma
1861  RG09  4373  33  25
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 December 15 20:30 GMT (UK)
Jared at "Millbank" and Jane at "Rock Street" in 1861.

Rock Street runs into Millbank.
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 17 December 15 18:54 GMT (UK)
Jane + Emma
1861  RG09  4373  33  25

Owen and Emma seem to have lost 20 years.  ???
Should it be 55 /56 but the image does look like 3. 1851 is a 4.

1861 30 Rock St.
Owen Owens  35
 Emma Owens  36
 William Owens  21
 Jane Owens  15
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: dragonT on Thursday 17 December 15 20:38 GMT (UK)
1841 - Owen/Emma Owens and older children at Baptist Chapel Street, Holyhead HO107, 1364, 3, 64, 14/15.
Owen Owen - 30, Emma Owen - 30, Elizabeth Owen - 14, Mary Owen - 11, Edward Owen - 4, William - 1. All born Anglesey, Owen is described as 'Ag lab'.

Birth registrations for the younger children:
William son of Owen Owens and Emma Prichard 5 Aug 1839
John son of Owen Owens and Emma Prichard 19 Jul 1842
Jane dau. of Owen Owen and Emma Prichard 17 Sep 1845

John's death registration has - 24 July 1842, age 5 days at Baptist Chapel Street, Holyhead, son of labourer Owen Owens. Informant Owen Owens.
Title: Re: Looking for Judiths parents.
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 20 December 15 13:01 GMT (UK)
Many thanks.
Two  lots of Owens are  going to take a bit of sorting out,  ;)