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Title: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Sunday 20 December 15 17:51 GMT (UK)
Owen was born in Dublin 1814 and Sophia was born Sophia Powell in Dunlavin 1818.
Arrived in Australia around 1838 to 1840.
I am trying to find the name of the ship which brought them here.
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Neil Todd on Sunday 20 December 15 19:05 GMT (UK)
Hi, Do you know where in Australia they landed IE: which State?
I might add to Cando's post on your other thread as well as this one. If they paid their passage it may be possible to track them, but if they were steerage passengers or bounty immigrants then their name may not appear on a manifest.
Neil
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: majm on Sunday 20 December 15 20:21 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

Have you had a look through the various online resources listed on the individual boards for each of Australia's states/territories ...   

Here's the main live link : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/

You will find lots of links to passenger lists there, but as Neil mentioned, it is possible that if they were steerage passengers then their names may not appear on the ship's manifest. 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Monday 21 December 15 03:25 GMT (UK)
On his death notice in 1886 it says he was a colonist of 47 years.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article6087716

regards
  Ros
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Monday 21 December 15 03:27 GMT (UK)
An obit which gives us the ship when he arrived

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article164932245

Mr. Morgan landed here from the
ship Westminster in the year 1839,
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Monday 21 December 15 03:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Ros.

Yes it does ... and at the State Library in Melbourne he is included in:

The Explorers and Early Colonists of Victoria is a historical photographic montage of 1872 by Thomas Foster Chuck (1826–1898). It consists of a framed collection of 713 photographs of the early settlers of Victoria.

I am beginning to unearth a few things about him and his life.

Many thanks for your help.

Rodney53
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Monday 21 December 15 03:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks a million, Ros ... that obituary is rolled gold for the Morgans.

Rodney53
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Monday 21 December 15 03:44 GMT (UK)
Pleasure to help Rodney  :)   I haven't found an obit for Sophia ... yet (just death notices)

Ros
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 22 December 15 05:04 GMT (UK)
A family Memorial Inscription at Melbourne General Cemetery

MORGAN
Sacred to the memory of
Emily Alicia Owen
Wynne & Sophia
Sophia mother of the above died
30 Dec 1879
Owen W. MORGAN husband of the above died 14 Mar 1886
Owen 2nd son of above died 23 May 1887
Mourie 5th son of above died 20 May 1897
Charles
4th son of above died 16 Aug 1900.

Location Church of England. Section O. Grave 24/25.
Sue


Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 22 December 15 05:21 GMT (UK)
Death notices for an Owen Orr MORGAN who died 25 may 1887

MORGAN.—On the 25th inst., at his residence, Rouse- 
street, Port Melbourne, Owen Orr Morgan, aged 45
years, a native of Victoria, brother of John L.     
Morgan, Beach-street. 

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article7911042
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article164934822
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article190641233
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 22 December 15 05:27 GMT (UK)
Sad end to Charles MORGAN in 1900

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article190055737

inquest http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article89616531
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 22 December 15 05:34 GMT (UK)
Death notices for Emily Alicia MORGAN

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article155029829
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5735202
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article197036195
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 22 December 15 06:18 GMT (UK)
Death notice for John Lewis MORGAN in 1912
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article143279044
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article143279044

Funeral notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10506308
Obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article69672778
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 22 December 15 06:27 GMT (UK)
Death notice for Letitia Conway MORGAN in 1918 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1650940
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Tuesday 22 December 15 08:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks a million, Sue. This is a fantastic contribution.

Will go to the cemetery over the break and find these graves.

My last attempt failed  :(

Rodney53

Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 22 December 15 10:47 GMT (UK)
Rodney53
I have sent you a Personal Message.
Sue
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Sunday 23 April 17 20:59 BST (UK)
Hello to all who have contributed to my search here.
Your leads have moved this search forward.
There is now some reason to believe the ship was named "Westminster" which sailed from England, not Dublin. This is mentioned in his obituary.
There is also reason to believe that Owen Morgan was born in Co. Wicklow rather than Dublin. Trinity College Dublin records state this. Have yet to discover what was his area of study and whether his course was completed.
Sophia Powell, his wife, continues to elude discovery in the Irish records. She appears often in Australian records.
Owen Morgan's parents, the Rev. Moore Morgan and his wife Margaret (nee Conway) are buried in Dunlavin, Co. Wicklow. Owen may well have been born in Dunlavin, though this is unconfirmed as yet.
All good wishes and many thanks again. I am very grateful.
Rodney53
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: muss on Sunday 23 April 17 22:36 BST (UK)
Hi
 Onboard the Westminster in 1839 are James and Mary Powell  may be worth checking.


 May be  relatives  of Sophia or assumed names of Owen and Sophia.

Muss

Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Monday 24 April 17 00:23 BST (UK)
Thanks a million, Muss. This is great!

Is this information on a website somewhere or in a published book? So no Owen or Sophia Morgan (or Powell) are named as passengers?

From what I can glean, the "Westminster" arrived in Australian colonies only once in 1839, the year of their arrival here. That the ship was named in Owen's obituary narrows the search considerably.

Much appreciated. Thanks.

Rodney53
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 24 April 17 02:42 BST (UK)
This archived web page lists many of the passengers of the Westminster (that are known).
http://www.oocities.org/vic1847/ship/west39.html?201724
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 24 April 17 02:53 BST (UK)
Following a link to the surgeon's report of the voyage, I notice that children on board were given some schooling  by a "John Morgan" - possibly your man? (Owen and John sometimes being the same name, esp Irish and Welsh).
http://www.ozigen.com/
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Monday 24 April 17 03:10 BST (UK)
Thank you so very much, Maddys.

Owen Morgan had been at Trinity College Dublin in the 1830's and may well have been involved in some teaching while aboard. (His father Moore Morgan was a Church of Ireland minister so it is plausible that he would likely have some sense of helping people).

Much gratitude.

Rodney53
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: muss on Monday 24 April 17 04:36 BST (UK)
hi

  Information on NSW state archives site https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/immigration-and-shipping/indexes

Muss
Title: Re: Owen Wynne Morgan and his wife Sophia Powell Morgan
Post by: Rodney53 on Monday 24 April 17 04:50 BST (UK)
Thanks, Muss, will check out this site and see what it reveals.

Very grateful.

Rodney53