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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Rodney53 on Sunday 20 December 15 17:51 GMT (UK)
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Owen was born in Dublin 1814 and Sophia was born Sophia Powell in Dunlavin 1818.
Arrived in Australia around 1838 to 1840.
I am trying to find the name of the ship which brought them here.
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Hi, Do you know where in Australia they landed IE: which State?
I might add to Cando's post on your other thread as well as this one. If they paid their passage it may be possible to track them, but if they were steerage passengers or bounty immigrants then their name may not appear on a manifest.
Neil
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Welcome to RootsChat
Have you had a look through the various online resources listed on the individual boards for each of Australia's states/territories ...
Here's the main live link : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
You will find lots of links to passenger lists there, but as Neil mentioned, it is possible that if they were steerage passengers then their names may not appear on the ship's manifest.
Cheers, JM
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On his death notice in 1886 it says he was a colonist of 47 years.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article6087716
regards
Ros
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An obit which gives us the ship when he arrived
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article164932245
Mr. Morgan landed here from the
ship Westminster in the year 1839,
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Thanks, Ros.
Yes it does ... and at the State Library in Melbourne he is included in:
The Explorers and Early Colonists of Victoria is a historical photographic montage of 1872 by Thomas Foster Chuck (1826–1898). It consists of a framed collection of 713 photographs of the early settlers of Victoria.
I am beginning to unearth a few things about him and his life.
Many thanks for your help.
Rodney53
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Thanks a million, Ros ... that obituary is rolled gold for the Morgans.
Rodney53
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Pleasure to help Rodney :) I haven't found an obit for Sophia ... yet (just death notices)
Ros
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A family Memorial Inscription at Melbourne General Cemetery
MORGAN
Sacred to the memory of
Emily Alicia Owen
Wynne & Sophia
Sophia mother of the above died
30 Dec 1879
Owen W. MORGAN husband of the above died 14 Mar 1886
Owen 2nd son of above died 23 May 1887
Mourie 5th son of above died 20 May 1897
Charles
4th son of above died 16 Aug 1900.
Location Church of England. Section O. Grave 24/25.
Sue
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Death notices for an Owen Orr MORGAN who died 25 may 1887
MORGAN.—On the 25th inst., at his residence, Rouse-
street, Port Melbourne, Owen Orr Morgan, aged 45
years, a native of Victoria, brother of John L.
Morgan, Beach-street.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article7911042
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article164934822
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article190641233
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Sad end to Charles MORGAN in 1900
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article190055737
inquest http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article89616531
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Death notices for Emily Alicia MORGAN
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article155029829
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5735202
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article197036195
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Death notice for John Lewis MORGAN in 1912
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article143279044
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article143279044
Funeral notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10506308
Obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article69672778
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Death notice for Letitia Conway MORGAN in 1918 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1650940
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Thanks a million, Sue. This is a fantastic contribution.
Will go to the cemetery over the break and find these graves.
My last attempt failed :(
Rodney53
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Rodney53
I have sent you a Personal Message.
Sue
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Hello to all who have contributed to my search here.
Your leads have moved this search forward.
There is now some reason to believe the ship was named "Westminster" which sailed from England, not Dublin. This is mentioned in his obituary.
There is also reason to believe that Owen Morgan was born in Co. Wicklow rather than Dublin. Trinity College Dublin records state this. Have yet to discover what was his area of study and whether his course was completed.
Sophia Powell, his wife, continues to elude discovery in the Irish records. She appears often in Australian records.
Owen Morgan's parents, the Rev. Moore Morgan and his wife Margaret (nee Conway) are buried in Dunlavin, Co. Wicklow. Owen may well have been born in Dunlavin, though this is unconfirmed as yet.
All good wishes and many thanks again. I am very grateful.
Rodney53
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Hi
Onboard the Westminster in 1839 are James and Mary Powell may be worth checking.
May be relatives of Sophia or assumed names of Owen and Sophia.
Muss
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Thanks a million, Muss. This is great!
Is this information on a website somewhere or in a published book? So no Owen or Sophia Morgan (or Powell) are named as passengers?
From what I can glean, the "Westminster" arrived in Australian colonies only once in 1839, the year of their arrival here. That the ship was named in Owen's obituary narrows the search considerably.
Much appreciated. Thanks.
Rodney53
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This archived web page lists many of the passengers of the Westminster (that are known).
http://www.oocities.org/vic1847/ship/west39.html?201724
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Following a link to the surgeon's report of the voyage, I notice that children on board were given some schooling by a "John Morgan" - possibly your man? (Owen and John sometimes being the same name, esp Irish and Welsh).
http://www.ozigen.com/
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Thank you so very much, Maddys.
Owen Morgan had been at Trinity College Dublin in the 1830's and may well have been involved in some teaching while aboard. (His father Moore Morgan was a Church of Ireland minister so it is plausible that he would likely have some sense of helping people).
Much gratitude.
Rodney53
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hi
Information on NSW state archives site https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/immigration-and-shipping/indexes
Muss
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Thanks, Muss, will check out this site and see what it reveals.
Very grateful.
Rodney53