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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Oxfordshire => Topic started by: goblin on Monday 28 December 15 18:21 GMT (UK)
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Hello, I am asking for some help, if someone could find the mother of one of my relatives from crawley,oxfordshire England, names William ward. . He is listed as born there in 1836. He is on the 1851 census as a grandson of my 3rd grt grandfather Daniel and his wife sussana ward. They were living in crawley,oxon. I can find his birthdate on ancestry.co.uk, but it does not say the mothers name. I am suspect it could have been the daughter of Daniel and sussana named Dorcas. Any help will be greatly appreciated. thank you!
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Hi the 1841 census seems to suggest mother as Dorcas:-
Daniel Ward 54
Susannah 54
Dorcas 25
William 4
Residing Crawley
Census ref HO107/872/ 32/6 / 7
Keyboard86
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Hello, that's what I was thinking, but I cannot document that for sure. She was 25, might have had him out of wedlock, and in 1841 she marries a man named John Roberts, and they had children, but no William was ever listed. thank you
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Hello, I am trying to find out who were the parents of a William ward, born either 1836 or 1837, crawley, oxfordshire England. On the 1841 and 1851 census for crawley he is listed as a grandson of Daniel ward. Any help would be greatly appreciated Thank you, goblin
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In the later censuses he is married to Rachel
1871
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD8F-1JB
1881
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXS-B5LR
1891
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4G7W-4MM
so if you get this certificate you will see who he names as his father:
Marriages Sep 1858
Ward William Witney 3a 957
Weaver Rachel Witney 3a 957
ADDED: 1841
HO107; Piece: 872; Folio: 6; Page: 7
Daniel Ward 54 shoemaker
Susannah Ward 54
Dorcas Ward 25
William Ward 5
I suggest William's mother is an unmarried Dorcas......[she married John Roberts in 1841 Q4 Witney Oct-Nov-Dec Volume 16 Page 292].
Findmypast or ancestry may have Oxfordshire baptisms in their parish registers.
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I wonder if he was the son of Dorcas age 25 years...if I have the right census in 1841. The only matching trees on Ancestry don't name his parents either ::)
Carol
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Just before civil registration - how annoying. A baptism needs to be found if one exists.
Are there accessible bastardy bonds for Oxfordshire?
Ah yes,
http://www.oxford.anglican.org/support-services/communications/researching-family-history/
www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/cms/public-site/collections-archives-and-records
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Ancestry have the contract for putting Oxfordshire's parish registers online. They've had the scans from Oxfordshire Family History Society for many months, but refuse to discuss timescales. Some of us might not live that long ::)
In the meantime, anyone who has the OFHS transcripts on CD for Hailey (including Crawley) might see your post - I'm sorry it's not in my collection. Alternatively the OFHS website has a search service where they'll check their baptism index for a modest charge of £1.50 per name.
Good luck :)
Carol
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Hello Goblin -
Hello, I am trying to find out who were the parents of a William ward, born either 1836 or 1837, crawley, oxfordshire England. On the 1841 and 1851 census for crawley he is listed as a grandson of Daniel ward. Any help would be greatly appreciated Thank you, goblin
Oxfordshire Family History Society has transcribed the Oxfordshire registers. Hailey and Crawley are on the CD WIT01. See CDs at www.ofhs.org.uk
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There you go then, goblin - OFHS is the route of choice. Buy the CD or pay someone there a small amout to do a lookup - simples ;D.
Perhaps if you change the title of the post* to 'Baptism of William Ward 1836 Crawley' - as Carol says someone with the CD might look it up for you. The more specific your title, the easier it is for someone to focus in if they can help.
*Only you or a moderator can do this. Go to your first post, click 'modify' in the top right corner & edit the title, then click 'save'.
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Bit of duplication here unfortunately: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=737888.msg5839867
Topics merged.
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Alternatively the OFHS website has a search service where they'll check their baptism index for a modest charge of £1.50 per name.
If you have the lookup done in the OFHS baptism index there are two advantages:
1) There may be several relevant candidates - OFHS will use a county-wide search for you
2) If appropriate, OFHS will also give you the image of the parish register as part of the search results
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I can only quote Victor Meldrew in despair....
Well spotted Carol.
Goblin - please in future post a link to any connected posts; it can be extremely annoying to spend an amount of time only to find the original poster already has been given information before by others who have also spent valuable time. We could be helping people with new questions rather than duplicating earlier research.
Here's one I posted earlier ;D
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738845.msg5850408#msg5850408
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Hi
Crawley was a Chapelry of Witney until 1854
Baptism-Witney St Mary
14 August 1836-William Ward bb s Dorcas "Crawley"
{from the OFHS p/r transcriptions}
Kim
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Just looked in the OxFHS - Marriage index. 1538-1837.
No marriage for Dorcas Ward, but I suspect that William Ward is possibly illigitimate.
Daniel Ward married Susannah Harris, 23 Oct 1815 @ Chadlington, Oxon.
Steve. :)
Oops, I missed Kimbrey's post. :-[
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Hello again, the post that Kimberley answered is correct. William was the son of Dorcas ward. The information is listed as follow" 14 August 1836 William Ward bb s Dorcas, crawley. Does anyone know what the bb stands for. Could that be the sign he was illegitimate? I also followed advice of the other wonderful posts I received on this William ward, and ordered his marriage certificate from OFHS in Cowley. I just got it today, it doesn't list either mother or father, so I do now believe he was illegitimate. Thank you all for you kind help, goblin
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BB, is an abbreviation of Base Born, that is, Illegitimate. One of the more 'polite' terms used in parish registers and birth certs.
Steve. :)
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Thank you steve for the explanation on that BB in a birth certificate. That's what I thought but have never heard the term base born before. Appreciate the information, goblin from the usa