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I would like to find my Grandfather. My Father never met him and I need help as I only have a name and year.
This is Alfred Alexander born in Peterhead Scotland around 1903. Please can someone help where do I begin.
Thanks ANNIE
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The best place to start would be to get his birth certificate www.Scotland's people.gov that will give you his parent's names and their marriage You can also look for him in the 1911 Census
Was he in the army ??
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
A check on the free index on Scotlands People confirms there is only one entry in 1903 for that name
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I would like to find my Grandfather. My Father never met him
Hi Annie,
Are you saying your father was illegitimate?
You need your father's birth cert. to find out if his father was named even if his parents were not married.
If this is the case, your father should be registered on SP by both surnames...his mother's maiden name & his fathers surname.
Annie
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
A check on the free index on Scotlands People confirms there is only one entry in 1903 for that name
Yes my father and his sister are both in their eighties and were illegitmate my grandmother died in 1986 and there is no name on my fathers or Aunties Birth certificate.
They only new his name and were not allowed to ask about him. I have only my Grandfathers name and he grew up in Peterhead. My father and his sister would like to know more about who there Father was and time is running out. Please could someone help tell me where to go,
or where to look.
ANNIE
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Hi
You will need to register with Scotlands People and buy some credits. This will enable you to download a copy of the 1903 birth cert
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Hi Annie as suggested you will need to get a copy of his birth certificate before you can go any further with this ...To see who his parent's were www.scotlandspeople.gov if you have not used this site before it will cost you £7.00 for 30 credits ..A birth search will cost you 1 credit and 5 to download the image as Carole said leaving you credit's to search for him in the 1911 census
Rosie :)
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Hi Annie,
Alfred b 18 Apr 1903
39 Kirk St, Peterhead
Parents; Charles Alexander (Cooper) & Mary Lovie
Married 20 Sep 1883, Peterhead
The time between the marriage & Alfred's birth would suggest a large family?
A look at the 1901 census would be interesting.
Alfred looks to have died 1986 although outside Aberdeen areas.
Annie
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1891 for 17 Castle St Peterhead - all b Peterhead except Mary
Charles Alexander 36 cooper b
Mary 27 b Old Deer
George 10
Mary J 4
Barbara A 1
James 23 brother
Peterhead ED 1 Page 9 Line 12
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1901 - 10 Wallace St Peterhead all b Peterhead except Mary
Charles Alexander 42 cooper
Mary 38 b Old Deer
George 20
Mary Jane 14
Barbara Ann M 11
Charles 9
John 7
Harry 3
James Stewart 4 Mths
Peterhead ED 11 Page 15 Line 12
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Just as I thought Carole.......
Could be a couple missing from there too going by the age gaps.
Annie
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George is 10 in 1891 so was born before the 1883 marriage
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1881 for Old Deer - all born there except where shown otherwise
Charles Lovie 43 b Fraserburgh, Banffshire - crofter of 22 acres arable
Mary 45
Mary 17
George 13
Ann 11
James 9
Christina 8
John 7
William 5
Alexander 3
George Morrice 10 Months (I wonder if this is George Alexander?) grandson
Jean Greig 86 great grandmother
Old Deer ED 4 Page 4 Line 15
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That's a good census.......even has g g/mother.
It's great when you find those.
George is 10 in 1891 so was born before the 1883 marriage
Maybe a previous marriage?
Annie
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It would be interesting to find Alfred in 1939 as that would give a better insight of him as he wouldn't have an occupation in 1911 although worth looking at that too.
Annie
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It would be interesting to find Alfred in 1939 as that would give a better insight of him as he wouldn't have an occupation in 1911 although worth looking at that too.
Annie
This is overwhelming I am so grateful to all of you for helping me and sending this information. I intend to find Mr Alfred Alexander of Peterhead, my grandfather I want to know everything about him. My father and his sister they are wanting to know who their real Father was. I read in one reply that he might have died in 1986 and he lived outside Aberdeenshire how do you know this?
This is very interesting if you know anymore.
Annie
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Hi
You will need to register with Scotlands People and buy some credits. This will enable you to download a copy of the 1903 birth cert
Hi I wil do this many thanks Annie
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Hi
how do you know this?
By using Scotlands People. Searching for a death for him would match his birthyear but was not found using Aberdeen as a place of death
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Hi
how do you know this?
By using Scotlands People. Searching for a death for him would match his birthyear but was not found using Aberdeen as a place of death
My grandmother told me he lived in Edinburgh and he was maybe a doctor or eye specialist, I was a young girl and I questioned her why our surnames were different?
It is over 40 years that she tried to tell me something about what had happened in her young days.
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If he did die in 1986 - you will have to apply for a copy of his death cert as it is too late a death to be available for download
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Annie, welcome to RC from me :)
From Annie and Carole's info above, just some details to keep in mind if Alfred is the one you are searching for and his family is that of Charles Alexander and Mary Lovie:
1911 THOMSON, Frederick, s/o John Thomson and Barbara Simpson
married ALEXANDER, Barbara Ann Murison d/o Charles Alexander and
Mary Lovie https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/peterhead/conversations/topics/2341
2733 Pte Alexander, Harry Missing believe killed Died 26/3/16. Born Peterhead 25/1/1898. Son of Charles Alexander, cooper, and Mary Lovie. Enlisted Peterhead. (ARRAS MEMORIAL) Buchan Observer: Killed in action in France on 26 March, Harry, fourth son of Charles Alexander, fishcurer 39 Kirk St. Peterhead http://gordonhighlanders.carolynmorrisey.com/CasualtylistC.htm
Monica
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My grandmother told me he lived in Edinburgh and he was maybe a doctor or eye specialist, I was a young girl and I questioned her why our surnames were different?
It is over 40 years that she tried to tell me something about what had happened in her young days.
Annie,
This ties in perfectly with the death for 1986 as this Alfred died District of George Square, Edinburgh City.
This too would need to be ordered but all can be ordered via the site as long as you have enough credits to cover.
Someone may be kind enough & look up the directories as his name is likely to appear there.
After you establish if this is him, someone may be able to find a MI for him too.
Annie
ADDED.......Being of a profession there is likely to be an obituary which someone may find.
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Annie,
Once you have a death cert........there are 3 marriages for name Alfred Alexander 1923 - 1943 Edinburgh City.
If he was married his wife's name should be on the cert. along with her maiden name providing the informant know those details.
Annie
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The best place to start would be to get his birth certificate www.Scotland's people.gov that will give you his parent's names and their marriage You can also look for him in the 1911 Census
Was he in the army ??
I do not know if he was in the army, I have used credits at Scotlands people.gov but the death certificate was not of great grandfather.
Where can I look to see what happens to the family after 1911. My grandfather was only 7 in 1911.
I would like to find him he was in the Peterhead area as my father was born on 1934 and then his sister in 1935 my grandfather would have been 32 years old.
I tried to see if he was married but no record in Peterhead. What did he do for a living and where was he living my grandmother worked as a maid.
Thanks for the information on his brother Harry who was killed in France when he was 18 years old. Harry was my Dads Uncle.
Many Thanks for all your replys your are awesome
Annie
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As there is no name on the birth certificate you don't have much information to go on only the information passed on from your Grandmother ..If he did become a doctor or a Eye specialist I would assume he would have been at University Aberdeen or Edinburgh ..Did you manage to get a copy of his birth ?
Rosie
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Annie, welcome to RC from me :)
From Annie and Carole's info above, just some details to keep in mind if Alfred is the one you are searching for and his family is that of Charles Alexander and Mary Lovie:
1911 THOMSON, Frederick, s/o John Thomson and Barbara Simpson
married ALEXANDER, Barbara Ann Murison d/o Charles Alexander and
Mary Lovie https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/peterhead/conversations/topics/2341
2733 Pte Alexander, Harry Missing believe killed Died 26/3/16. Born Peterhead 25/1/1898. Son of Charles Alexander, cooper, and Mary Lovie. Enlisted Peterhead. (ARRAS MEMORIAL) Buchan Observer: Killed in action in France on 26 March, Harry, fourth son of Charles Alexander, fishcurer 39 Kirk St. Peterhead http://gordonhighlanders.carolynmorrisey.com/CasualtylistC.htm
Yes thanks for these details they are helpful. The daughter Barbara Ann was she married already as she has the surname Murison? I am still searching for Alfred and his family Regards Annie.
Monica
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Annie, well spotted, hadn't noticed the surname for Barbara Ann in that 1911 marriage ref. She could well have been previously married. If you check the original image on SP, this will give you confirmation as to whether Barbara showed as a spinster or a widow :)
At least, you have her parents' names from that which will help you confirm details further.
Monica