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This has beeen a long running saga for me since I first posted a query on the Australian Board in 2009.
I new descendant popped up and started the thread again and wivenhoe gave me a new lead and of I go again!
Summary;
NZ DEATH CERT;
Ann PURDY,
Died ; 1927, NZ, widow, aged 86
Born : approx 1841, Derby, England
Parents; James MOLONEY ( farmer) and Nancy nee COSTELLO
Married; aged 27 to James PURDY, Melbourne, Vict.
Time in NZ 58 yrs
MARRIAGE CERT.
In Melbourne, Victoria, 24 April 1869, aged 25
to James Purdy, resident of Melbourne at time, James of Beechworth.( have heaps on him)
Born Derby, Derbyshire
Parents James Moloney and Ann Costello
Straight after their marriage they went to N.Z. on the ship "Tararua 1
From her her Daughters Marriage Entry in NZ Newspaper
New Zealand Herald 5 Oct 1894
LEGGETT—PURDY.—On September 5, at Kaikohe, Bay of Islands, N.Z., James Leegett, son of William and Ann LEGGETT, of Waiuku, Auckland, to Mary Jane Purdy, second daughter of James and Ann PURDY, of Kaikohe
- g granddaughter of Lord and Lady Gougb, Galway, Ireland;
- cousin to Father Moloney, Limerick;
- cousin to the Whaling Brothers, K. C. Priests of Loch Reagh, Ireland
- cousin to Dr. Moloney, Gort, Ireland
- cousin to Dr. Whalings, Loch Reagh, Ireland,
- and cousin to Father Costello, late of Auckland.*****
Southern papers please copy.
*****Now I took this to mean Father Costello was DECEASED
After this thread was revived wivenhoe found this for me;
Father Costello, at 1894, is formerly of Auckland, but is not now (1894) in Auckland....and is still alive, is how I am reading this. Possibility?
Using ParersPast, Father COSTELLO died 7 Dec 1912, priest at Palmerston North, started at Auckland...53 years old...trained in Co. Clare......
BDM NZ death
1912/7461 COSTELLO Patrick Curtin 54Y
this is 17 Dec 1912, so might be transcription error. No other COSTELLO dying in Dec 1912.
Buried Terrace End Cemetery
Electoral Roll 1896 COSTELLO Patrick Curtin, Hill St Wellington, RC priest
1911 COSTELLO Patrick Curtin, 14 Broad St Palmerston, clergyman
Link to full query Australian Board, sorry I;m useless at shrinking links.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=354667.msg5845291#msg5845291
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Last bit of info I have found today;
Cut/pasted from info found whilst doing a lot of googling.
I have now read the full entry on Paperspast;
Patrick Costello was Educated Catholic College of Innis, County Clare.
Ordained by the Bishop of Killaloa
The Very Rev. Patrick Curtis Costello
The Very Rev. Patrick Curtis Costello took charge of the Palmerston North parish in 1905.
He was born in Ireland, educated in Paris and at Prior Park, Bath, Somerset, England.
Father Costello was ordained in the year 1882 in Ireland, came to New Zealand in the same year, and was stationed at Auckland.
Subsequently he became administrator of the Auckland Roman Catholic Cathedral, and, later, parish priest at Parnell.
After a trip to England he was stationed successively at Gisborne, Wellington, Westport, and Marton, before receiving his present charge
Biographical Notices of Clare-born from New Zealand Newspapers 1868-1943;
COSTELLO, On April 11, 1888. At the Grey River Hospital, Michael Costello, native of Killaloe, Co. Clare, Ireland and late of North Town, aged 48 years.
(Born c 1840)
Must be related I would think to Patrick Costello given pob
So Please please can anyone help me with any of the people mentioned as Cousins of Mary Jane Purdy (My Grandmother)
Regards,
Trish :)
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Sorry if anyone posts info and I dont reply til later as off to bed, its 3.00am here in Australia ;D
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Killaloe RC registers online here... http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0793
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Costelloe at Clare Library http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gs1/
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http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/delahunty/chap9_family_connections.htm
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Lord and Lady Gough not Gougb.
If I could get this iPad to work I'd post a link
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Hi halmark,
Thanks you so much for your replies.
I have found 2 possible baptisms 1859 for Patrick Moloney on the Parish Registers link you provided.
I may have to get the 1912 NZ Death Cert to see what it contains.
I had found the Delahunty info.
The other link at at Clare Library I will try later as must be off to Work
Hi Sinann,
Thank you for your interest.
If you can provide the link to the info on Lord/Lady Gough it would be appreciated.
I had years ago tried to research them (The Peerage etc) but found it all very confusing as their were so many variants and could find no link to Moloneys/Costellos in their Line.
Cheers,
Trish :)
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It was only a house they bought in Galway, it was just the spelling I wanted to confirm.
There is lots about Lord Vicount Gough's career but very little about his children.
http://www.abandonedireland.com/LoughCutra.html
http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/mlp216.pdf
Viscount Hugh Gough didn't live in Galway so would it be his son Captain the Hon. George Gough later second Viscount who is the grandfather, as he seems to have spent time there.
I can't find any Whalings, of any discription, Wheelings perhaps?
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- cousin to the Whaling Brothers, K. C. Priests of Loch Reagh, Ireland
- cousin to Dr. Whalings, Loch Reagh, Ireland,
Wonder if the surname could be Whelan rather than Whaling(s)? The place is probably Lough Reagh/Loughrea in Galway
http://www.thecatholicdirectory.com/directory.cfm?fuseaction=search_directory&country=ie&absolutecity=Loughrea
The Cathedral built 1897- http://www.loughreacathedral.ie/
Just in case the surname is Whelan- 1846 Rev. Joseph Whelan
http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/1846loughrea.htm
1881 directory- http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/directories/1881loughrea.txt
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Going by the dates, if Ann (Moloney) Purdy was born c1841 then the likely grandfather is the 1st Lord Gough (assuming that her grandfather was really a Lord Gough)-
Viscounts Gough
Field Marshal Hugh Gough, KP, GCSI, KCB, PC, 1st Viscount (1779–1869)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Gough,_1st_Viscount_Gough
George Stephens Gough, 2nd Viscount Gough (1815–1895)
Hugh Gough, KCVO, 3rd Viscount (1849–1919)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscount_Gough
However, I can see nothing yet to connect Ann (or her husband) to the family
http://www.thepeerage.com/p12420.htm#i124192
Added- just found an old thread from 2007 :-\
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=240500.0
I suspect from the wording of the newspaper article that the 'Whaling' brothers were from Loughrea rather than priests in Loughrea
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According to the newspaper article the 1st Viscount and Frances Stephens had five children.
So George is one
This says he was married twice
http://everything.explained.today/Hugh_Gough,_1st_Viscount_Gough/
Two daughters
Jane Eliza- Mona married a Haines
France's Maria married a Grant.
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The Peerage entry lists 4 daughters but there are errors in sources like that.
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GENERAL GOUGH: THE IRISHMAN WHO CONQUERED THE PUNJAB (aka Field Marshal Sir Hugh Gough, 1st Viscount Gough)
On 3rd November 1779, Letitia Gough, sister of William Bunbury of Lisnavagh, gave birth at Woodstone to her fourth son Hugh. He grew up to become one of Kane Bunbury's closest friends. As Field Marshal Viscount Sir Hugh Gough, KP, PC, GCB, GCSI, he was also a military commander of outstanding capability, a Peninsula War veteran who became well known to the Victorians for his activities in Hong Kong during the Opium War (1841-42) and again during the Sikh War (1845-1848) when he led the British Army to victory and captured the Punjab.
Sir Matthew's sons prospered in the woollen trade around the town of Staple in Wiltshire. During the reign of King James I, three sons of the Rev Hugh Gough, Rector of All Cannings, near Devizes, Wiltshire, moved to Ireland where they became variously Chancellor of Limerick Cathedral, Archdeacon of Ardfert and Bishop of Limerick. It is not clear which of these brothers was the forefather of the Goughs of Woodstone. Bishop Gough's great-grandson, another Rev. Hugh Gough (1662 - 1730), gained his MA from Trinity College, Dublin, in 1688 and became Rector of Kilfenny, County Limerick. He was subsequently appointed Precentor of Limerick Cathedral, being the fifth member of the family to hold an office of that Cathedral. His grandson was Captain (or possibly Colonel?) George Gough (1720 - 19th November 1783) "of Woodsdown", Co. Limerick. The house of Woodstown burned down some years ago. It was sited "within the liberties of the City of Limerick", but nobody seems able to place it exactly.
In 1748 George married Elizabeth Waller, daughter of Richard Waller, of Castle Waller, County Tipperary, by his wife, Elizabeth Holland, daughter of Admiral Holland. They had five children, two sons and three daughters.
http://www.turtlebunbury.com/family/bunburyfamily_related/bunbury_family_related_gough.html#lim
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The two marriages sounds a bit dodgy as well, there is Major Hugh Limerick to Miss Stevens in England in 1807 which sounds correct but also Hugh to Miss Starr Limerick 1784 which would be two early for him.
http://www.irishancestors.ie/search/marriage/index.php
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A Nicholas Gough married a Mary Moloney in 1832 but it's RC in Dublin
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/b2143b0047565
And Costello and Gough knew each other
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gsc/
But again all RC.
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The two marriages sounds a bit dodgy as well, there is Major Hugh Limerick to Miss Stevens in England in 1807 which sounds correct but also Hugh to Miss Starr Limerick 1784 which would be two early for him.
http://www.irishancestors.ie/search/marriage/index.php
The youngest son, Hugh, was born about 1816, became a Lieutenant in the 1st Royal Dragoon Guards and died unmarried. Thus this line died out." (Normand)
http://www.turtlebunbury.com/family/bunburyfamily_related/bunbury_family_related_gough.html#lim
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Hi all,
Its very late here and I've just done a 12hr day at work so was pleased to see all your replies.
Gosh aghadowey that post I made in 2007 I had forgotten about. It was when I just joined Rootschat.
A lot of water under the bridge since then!
Also that link with Rev Joseph Whelan link you provided also had on lt;
Roman Catholic Chapel, Cross st-
Right Rev. Thomas Coen, D.D.
parish priest and bishop of the
diocess of Clonfert, Bridet st; Rev.
John Molony, Main street, and
Rev. Joseph Henry Whelan, Mob hill,
curates.
I think the Gough connection I will leave for now as being very tentative.
Also I agree Whalings may be Whelan/Whalen also
Sinann,
This was interesting;
A Nicholas Gough married a Mary Moloney in 1832 but it's RC in Dublin
I will order Death Cert for Patrick Curtin Moloney and see if it contains any info.
I have checked his Will//Probate on Familysearch.Org which was no help.
Contacting a couple of Churches and the Auckland Diocese Archives may be on the cards also.
Once again hallmark, Sinann and aghadowey, thanks for all your work and help on this.
All the best,
Trish :)
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75 Moloney Wills in Clare
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gsg/
70 in limerick
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gsh/
These are ones that DIED in Clare or Limerick..not where they lived. One could have died elsewhere!!
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Thank you again hallmark.
I will be away for a couple of days so if anyone posts anything else it may be a while before I reply.
Trish :)