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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: johnnyjumpup on Thursday 14 January 16 23:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi All,
I am trying to trace a marriage for Eliza Doyle and John Culhane circa 1880-1890. Eliza was from Co. Wexford. I think they may have been married in England as I cannot find any trace of a marriage in Waterford. They had a son William born in 1889 in Hampstead.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Sorry that should have read I cannot find a marriage in Ireland.
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Hi
No marriage found in England
www.freebmd.org.uk
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John Culhane aged 56 died march qtr 1911
Did you look at the 1911 image re: number of years married?
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Hi
Think it may be the one Sept. Qtr 1882 Kensington
John COLHANE
Eliza DOYLE
ELWON Thomas Henry V
PASCO Annie Maud I
EDIT: Kensington Vol. 1a Page. 342
claire
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Well spotted Claire ;D
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Thank you so much Carole W and Claire, I think you are probably correct that the marriage you mention is the couple I am looking for. If I was to get the marriage cert what information would it record.? I know here in Ireland it records the names and addresses of the father of the bride and groom but does not mention mothers. it also records the two witnesses. Does it record the place of birth of both parties or just the addresses at the time of marriage.
I really appreciate all your help It has really made by day as I had hit that infamous brick wall!!
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Hi
Here is a preview of a marriage cert. and what it contains
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/images/Marriage%20Cert%20PDF.pdf
claire
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Hi All
I decided to order the marriage cert for Eliza Doyle and John Colhane as follows taking info from a very kind reply to my earlier query
"I Think it may be the one Sept. Qtr 1882 Kensington
John COLHANE
Eliza DOYLE
ELWON Thomas Henry V
PASCO Annie"
EDIT: Kensington Vol. 1a Page. 342"
However I looked at www.familysearch.org indexes to marriages just to check if I had page and volume numbers correct before I applied. I couldn't find this particular entry. I found the following indexes
Name John Colhane
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1882
Registration District Kensington
County London
Event Place Kensington, London, England
Volume 1A
Page 342
Line Number 339
John Colhane probably married one of the following people
Name Annie Maude I Pasco
It doesn't mention Eliza Doyle as a possible spouse. Then I searched for Eliza Doyle and found this record:
Name Eliza Doyle
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1882
Registration District Kensington
County London
Event Place Kensington, London, England
Volume 1A
Page 21
Line Number 17
Eliza Doyle probably married one of the following people
Name Joel Cross
Name Claudine Mary A Fearon
Name Henry Snelson A Fuller
Name Beatrice Betty L Giles
The quarter, year and district are the same but the volume and page numbers are different. How can I be sure that John and Eliza Doyle married each other
I would greatly appreciate any help with this as I am not very familiar with the indexes.
Thank you once again for all the help already received
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Using freebmd - if you input John Colhane with spouse surname Doyle - there is only one match.
Marriages September qtr 1882
John Colhane Kensington 1a 342 - Eliza Doyle on same page
The other Eliza Doyle entry you quote - the reference 1A 21 does not cross match to an entry for Colhane/Culhane
If you check the full GRO image for that qtr - there is only one entry for a John Colhane and that ref is Kensington 1A 342
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Hi Carole W,
Thank you so much.
I have never used "freebdm" before. It's great, Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I am definitely going to apply for the Marriage Cert tonight because I think you are spot on it has to be the right couple. It should show Eliza's father's name so I am really hopeful it will link me back to Ireland and a Baptism Cert.
All your help is greatly appreciated
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No problem. Hope it all goes well for you