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Title: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: Rosezi on Sunday 17 January 16 11:18 GMT (UK)
Just received an incorrect bith cert, if my ancestor was born in Liverpool on  17th May 1853 which quarter should I have chosen?
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 17 January 16 11:21 GMT (UK)
The birth should have been registered June qtr but may have been registered late and therefore Sept qtr.  Don't forget that early on in registration some births were not registered
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 17 January 16 11:23 GMT (UK)
June quarter would cover May i.e June quarter = April, May, June.  My advice would be to check on FreeBMD for her registration entry.

Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: andycand on Sunday 17 January 16 12:07 GMT (UK)
Hi

If you are looking for a Liverpool birth then also look at West Derby Registration District as that covers many Liverpool suburbs.

Andy
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: Blue70 on Sunday 17 January 16 12:37 GMT (UK)
As already said having an established birth date doesn't necessarily mean the birth was registered in the quarter including that month. The birth may have been registered in a later quarter or not at all. You say born in Liverpool in 1853, at this time the city had extended into areas covered by Toxteth Park and West Derby registration districts. Other parts of modern Liverpool were in 1853 outside the city and covered by West Derby registration district, such as Walton and Garston for example.


Blue
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: josey on Sunday 17 January 16 12:43 GMT (UK)
Have you put it on the Unwanted Certificate board  ;)

Some Liverpool baptisms are available which would mean you can check the parents [at least the father] then specify to the GRO or Register Office that the birth you want has such a father.

If you give us the name we can look; also, how do you know the birthdate without the birth certificate?
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: Rosezi on Sunday 17 January 16 13:39 GMT (UK)
The baptism at St Mary's said the birth date was 17th May 1853 and the baptism on the 22nd. The parents are Philp and Catherine (nee Soraghan) Family lived in Dale Street sub district on 1851 census.
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 17 January 16 17:57 GMT (UK)
The baptism at St Mary's said the birth date was 17th May 1853 and the baptism on the 22nd. The parents are Philp and Catherine (nee Soraghan) Family lived in Dale Street sub district on 1851 census.

Can't see anywhere in this thread who the child was though  ;D
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 17 January 16 18:13 GMT (UK)
The baptism at St Mary's said the birth date was 17th May 1853 and the baptism on the 22nd. The parents are Philp and Catherine (nee Soraghan) Family lived in Dale Street sub district on 1851 census.

Can't see anywhere in this thread who the child was though  ;D

Maybe this one Carol  ;D   :-\
John Clarke
Birth    17 May 1853
Baptism 22 May 1853
St Mary's, Liverpool
Father Philip Clarke
Mother Catherine Clarke
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: Rosezi on Sunday 17 January 16 18:37 GMT (UK)
Yes its John Clarke,, name was mentioned at the beginning of my thread
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: davidft on Sunday 17 January 16 18:52 GMT (UK)
I don't know how you bought a birth certificate for a John Clarke in June quarter 1853 in Liverpool as i don'r see one in the indexes

However there are three the following quarter

Births Sep 1853   
CLARKE    John        Liverpool    8b   43   
CLARKE    John        Liverpool    8b   48   
CLARKE    John        Liverpool    8b   176    

so assuming one of these three is yours what you will have to do is contact the GRO explain the three names the same and you don't know which is correct. They will take some details like the parents names and then do a check for you (not sure it may cost an extra 1 or so but at least you get the right certificate)
Title: Re: Ordering correct birth certificate help
Post by: StevieSteve on Sunday 17 January 16 19:07 GMT (UK)
Just to say that is done via the online ordering

Where it says Do you know the GRO reference you say No

Then on the next screen you get to add known details such as father's name or mother's surname. Whatever you put will need to exactly match what's on the cert.

Costs the same but takes 2-3 weeks longer