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Research in Other Countries => Immigrants & Emigrants - General => Topic started by: salt on Monday 18 January 16 16:26 GMT (UK)
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Hello
Looking for any information on Abraham WOLIS (later WALLIS) and Josephine BIBERFELD from Warsaw, who arrived in Manchester, England c 1890. I have UK census details. Thanks.
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You have not given details of their respective birthyears
Did they arrive as a married couple - meaning they married outside England - or did they marry in England?
If you have them in 1911 - how many years do they say they have been married?
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According to the C1901 and C1911 they were both Warsaw residents, and had been married for 27 years. They were married in and produced several children in Warsaw, arriving in M/c about 1891. Calculating their birthyears from the census they were both born around 1866. C1901 shows Josephine's father Abraham living with them. Apologies, I should have included this info.
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Unfortunately, incoming shipping lists were not kept for ships sailing from Europe into UK ports.
I think Abraham Wolis' father may have been a Louis. Here is a 1901
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/issue/11357/page/1313/data.pdf
and census records for Louis/Lewis and family:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q5H7-BT2
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9VV-LQY
Louis/Lewis died in 1908, and you can find his burial mentioned here:
http://www.mdcs.org.uk/home.aspx
(payment for full info).
I would recommend you focus on Jewish genealogy sources in Manchester and surrounds and try and confirm who the extended family were - there also seems to be a possible brother for Josephine, Gustav.
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Many thanks for this Jorose. I have looked at this family several times, and - because of the similarities in names of children - been convinced that there was a connection. I thought maybe Abraham's brother, but now tend towards his father. I'll follow up the MDCS link.
Salt
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Hi
I am from the biberfield family and have some further information about the biberfield Family.
I think we may be related, how can I contact you?
Marc
I am from the abraham biberfield side who then had children wallis, max, gustave etc
Does this link with your tree?
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jettzz@gmail.com
Salt what is your email address?
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Hi mczite ,
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Good luck
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Hi sorry about that.
The system wouldn't let me have more than 1 private message in my account.
I think you should try and change that as it does not really let the site be so productive, especially if you'd prefer to keep people within the website.
As a website designer myself thats quite a major flaw.
As the immediate thing people would try and do is connect and if they can't here they can go elsewhere.
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Many thanks for this Jorose. I have looked at this family several times, and - because of the similarities in names of children - been convinced that there was a connection. I thought maybe Abraham's brother, but now tend towards his father. I'll follow up the MDCS link.
Salt
Hi Salt
I can see you have been researching this family tree. Are you able to share your findings? I believe I am related to the people you have mentioned and understand there have been a few name changes over the years and would love to see what you have found. Are you researching for yourself?
Many thanks in advance for your assistance
Nathan
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Hi
My Great Great Great Grandfather was Levek Wolis from Warsaw, his grandson Abraham Wallis was married to Josephine Biberfeld, my great grandmother.
Does that tally with you?
Thank you
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I am a great-grandson of Abraham Wallis and Josephine Brenda nee Bieberfield. I have info and photos which I am happy to share.